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In all seriousness though...
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2017-06-15 at 9:46 PM UTCThat's one thing I can respect about Bill Krozby... No matter how small fry, unambitious and dead-end that working at a pizza parlour at 30 years old might be, at least he works.
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2017-06-15 at 9:52 PM UTC
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2017-06-15 at 10:07 PM UTCI want to deepcock Ana Kasparian while talking about late stage capitalism being better than any real socialist system.
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2017-06-15 at 11:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Phoenix I've been laying stonework in my parents' garden if that counts for anything. <3
It absolutely does. Doesn't it feel at least mildly rewarding, or SOMETHING?
People like us Lucy, when we are depressed we convince ourselves that it HAS to be that way, that even if we wanted to do better, we can't, which keeps us in this circle of depression.
I know you know what I mean too. It's an excuse, just as much as it is a debilitating illness. It fucking sucks, I know. Trust me, I know. We need to break the cycle. Once we can break the cycle it is amazing the things we can see that were holding us back. -
2017-06-15 at 11:09 PM UTCIt is easy to break the cycle, just don't be a faggot and recognise that the reason you're depressed is because you're being a faggot.
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2017-06-15 at 11:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by Thezigly Shut up, your just salty jelly that she likes me. What happened to calling her cute all the time?.
And why wouldn't they like a guy who makes her happy and gets her out of the house?.
I still think HTS is cute as fuck. That's not the problem. The problem is his obvious ability to change his situation, and refusal to do so. It's just excuse making.
Also, the you're retarded and couldn't maintain a house of cards, let alone a relationship. -
2017-06-15 at 11:31 PM UTCJUST PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER MAN!
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2017-06-15 at 11:34 PM UTCHTS doesn't party lol.
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2017-06-15 at 11:38 PM UTChe Has To Stay home
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2017-06-16 at 12:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon It is easy to break the cycle, just don't be a faggot and recognise that the reason you're depressed is because you're being a faggot.
That isn't true at all. Some people can develop severe depression regardless of their circumstances in life and their potential. Biological depression genuinely exists, and some are naturally predisposed to it.
Did you know that the suicide rate for the transgendered is around 29x the general population, with the life expectancy being far lower? For autism, even autistic children attempt suicide at a similar rate, and for adults with Asperger's (such as me) the rate of suicidal thoughts is about 10x higher, even higher than among those with psychosis (IIRC about 66% of aspies report having had serious thoughts or plans for suicide, compared with 58% for those with psychosis) and the life expectancy is 12 years lower.
You can have genetic differences/defects, neurological disorders/defects, something biologically wrong with you that leads to this. Your brain can suffer from afflictions just like any other part of the body.
Would you tell someone with bipolar disorder, like 1337, to just snap out of it, will or think their way of their natural depressive cycles? Do you think you would be just as happy and successful if you were literally autistic? Some people are simply unfortunate. This is the nature of reality, whenever someone brings life into this world they're essentially playing genetic russian roulette, and some children lose the game through no fault of their own, because there may not currently be effective treatments for their condition, or due to how terrible mental healthcare systems tend to be, not receiving adequate help, effective medication (fuck SSRIs). -
2017-06-16 at 12:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice That isn't true at all. Some people can develop severe depression regardless of their circumstances in life and their potential. Biological depression genuinely exists, and some are naturally predisposed to it.
Did you know that the suicide rate for the transgendered is around 29x the general population, with the life expectancy being far lower? For autism, even autistic children attempt suicide at a similar rate, and for adults with Asperger's (such as me) the rate of suicidal thoughts is about 10x higher, even higher than among those with psychosis (IIRC about 66% of aspies report having had serious thoughts or plans for suicide, compared with 58% for those with psychosis) and the life expectancy is 12 years lower.
You can have genetic differences/defects, neurological disorders/defects, something biologically wrong with you that leads to this. Your brain can suffer from afflictions just like any other part of the body.
Would you tell someone with bipolar disorder, like 1337, to just snap out of it, will or think their way of their natural depressive cycles? Do you think you would be just as happy and successful if you were literally autistic? Some people are simply unfortunate. This is the nature of reality, whenever someone brings life into this world they're essentially playing genetic russian roulette, and some children lose the game through no fault of their own, because there may not currently be effective treatments for their condition, or due to how terrible mental healthcare systems tend to be, not receiving adequate help, effective medication (fuck SSRIs).
Since you're actually aütistic, I'm not going to humiliate you for failing to read between the lines. I understand that actual, biological depression is a thing.
I'd go so far as to say that purely psychological depression isn't a thing; people think depression is "sadness" but it's really a crushing feeling where your body actively fights your attempts to be "ok" and actively saps you of any energy to do anything.
But lots of people get depressed. Not bullshit depressed, clinically depressed. It's something that can be overcome and it's not "hard", it's just uncomfortable. But that's the point. You can either paste away in "woe is me" or actually try to use whatever illusion of agency you have and try to beat it. HATS isn't the special snowflake who couldn't. He's becoming the dummy who wouldn't.
Every time you try to talk to him about it, he just dives directly into stupid ass sophistry, rationalisations and excuses. And the shitty thing is that maybe it wouldn't be this bad if all you tards didn't enable each other so much. This place is like the ultimate negative feedback loop. Except it's not negative feedback in that he's getting negative reactions, but that he's being impacted negatively by excusemaking on his behalf and the validation he gets.
I'm not going to get into addressing how that also holds true for you, and many others in the community. That's a story for another time. But HTS isn't irretrievably stuck in a pit of despair, he's just lazy. I wouldn't say that to most people, but it's true in HTS's case. -
2017-06-16 at 12:50 AM UTCI agree, but suicidal depression completely fucks you up mentally. It radically alters the way you feel and perceive the world, life, and the symptoms can make it incredibly difficult to break out of it. The profound sense of isolation and lack of meaning, anhedonia, extremely low energy, futility and inefficacy.
HTS is in a state of severe mental illness and nothing anyone has said is going to make him snap out of it. There probably isn't anything you could say to him. He's either eventually going to begin changing his views on life and slowly start taking the steps to recover, which can take a very long time, or he won't.
Unfortunately there really isn't any point in dwelling on this, although simply showing that there are many people who care and want to help him, are giving him advice, even if it's useless, can certainly be helpful. -
2017-06-16 at 12:52 AM UTCHTS, have you ever gone to college? Even just taking a few classes you're interested in at a community college can begin to help a lot. Of course you're going to find multiple ways to convince yourself it won't and isn't worth doing, putting up with the pain and discomfort, the sense of meaninglessness and futility, view of what the future will be like afterward, how it changes nothing about the world you exist in etc.
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2017-06-16 at 1:50 AM UTCSometimes it's easy to forget that this site ain't a game and you are reading things written by extremely troubled people.
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2017-06-16 at 1:53 AM UTC