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2024-03-07 at 11:34 PM UTCHave any of u tried it or shoot up legit heroine, I’m thinking…
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2024-03-08 at 12:16 AM UTCI've ordered pure #4 heroin off the darknet a few times back in the day, it arrived as little off white/grey hard pebbles in a similar consistency to pure cocaine that breaks into a powder easily
Upon snorting a short toothpick width rail I was hit with the most powerful euphoria I experienced in my life. I just snorted it
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2024-03-08 at 1:20 AM UTCmay give it a shot.
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2024-03-08 at 2:38 PM UTCI used to be pretty bad on it, it got to where it was hard to get heroin most of the shit out there is fentanyl. Nothing beats a heroin high, nothing. I usually don't recommend anyone to start but you probably should try it. Do a good fat shot and report back to us 👍
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2024-03-08 at 2:41 PM UTCI mixed mine 1:1 with MDMA and I found the combination to be very sexual and erotic, but debilitating. I could not get hard, cum or masturbate for like a month on that shit but I felt like a sexy drugged out stud the entire time
you should probably seek out such a state permanently -
2024-03-08 at 2:47 PM UTCwhy do u guys keep telling me this
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2024-03-08 at 2:53 PM UTCIt's the truth. Drug education is important and anyone trying to "danger scare" heroin because it has a bad rap in the media with other opiates are simply misinformed because pure unadulturated heroin is not lethal. People associate being a "drug addict" with death I experience it on this forum all the time people saying I will die in a year for 10+ years now but i'm actually more healthy than i've ever been and I abuse opiates and stimulants several times a year
I would say this is correct but only because of the potency of pure heroin, with no tolerance you can easily get uncomfortably sick taking too much. I have puked my guts out, been constipated and experienced the opiate sweats upon running out, you really get a sense for how shitty it is but I wasn't BANGING A GRAM a day and people describe the withdrawl from that as actual hell
but I have experienced meth comedowns and withdrawls a lot and I don't mind them but they aren't nearly as physically torturous as opiates. I think opiates and benzos have a similar problem where you can't really dose them long term without it completely destroying your brain/body in some way. It's like costing a part of our very soul to feel that good, it doesn't come for free -
2024-03-08 at 2:59 PM UTCWhat you really want is impure black tar heroin which contains more of the acetylated side compound "6MAM" which is much more potent that diacetylmorpine or fentanyl analogs
people think fentanyl is just "better heroin" because it's more potent but it has a completely different profile of effects and is much more pharmalogical and suited for pain relief as a MEDICINE or to fend off the opiate shakes since it does get you HIGH but not HEROIN HIGH its more noddy, less euphoric
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6-Monoacetylmorphine
BUt the problem with 6MAM black tar heroin is that injecting that stuff WILL kill you in a few years it's very crude and dirty product but it's understandable why people do it because you get about 100x higher from killing yourself taking that stuff. I want to isolate pure 6mam and bang that FUCK SIDE PRODUCTS but side products are cool too
Originally posted by The Self Taught Man 6mam is the desired product though it gets you way higher than #4. It's one of those byproducts of synthesis thats actually better than the target compound, I've looked a lot into the formation of 6 mono acetyl morphine and similar opiates.
I think I posted a thread some months back about making a funky Cinnamyl morphinoid from piperizine horse dewormer lol.
Opium is good but if I had a lot of it I would just convert it to BTH because its cheap to make and worth lots.
It shouldn't. The #4 I get has no cut and smells/tastes like nothing. It's a tan rocky powder and I don't even think it should be tan but its pretty damn pure.
https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/fentanyl.htmlDilution of fentanyl powder
The pure Fentanyl can not be used as is, because it's much, much too strong and MUST be diluted, else there will be a lot of overdoses!
The following procedure gives a white heroin wich is the same strength as very good (30%) street heroin.
100mg of Fentanyl·HCl is dissolved in 2ml of methanol. Weigh up 10g of lactose and warm it to about 60-70°C into a large dish with a hotplate. Add the methanolic solution of Fentanyl dropwise at regular intervals into the warm lactose for a good pre-mix. Wait until all the methanol is evaporated and mix thoroughly. This is crucial because if this is not thoroughly mixed, there will be a part of the Lactose without Fentanyl and part of the Lactose with too much Fentanyl, possibly causing dramatic overdoses!
This type of Heroin was used and sold during a year, and the feedback of the consumers was very good. The consumers were very happy and didn't want the usual brown Heroin anymore. So be careful, some people (the Mafia and other dealers) will perhaps turn very jealous!
DON'T USE and DON'T SELL pure Fentanyl HCl, this is a very toxic material which will cause many overdoses if not diluted! -
2024-03-08 at 3:08 PM UTChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucinnazine
"Bucinnazine (AP-237, 1-butyryl-4-cinnamylpiperazine) is an opioid analgesic drug that was widely used in China to treat pain in cancer patients as of 1986.[1] It is one of the most potent compounds among a series of piperazine-amides first synthesized and reported in Japan in the 1970s. Bucinnazine has analgesic potency comparable to that of morphine but with a relatively higher therapeutic index. "
"2-methyl-AP-237 has been sold on the black market as a designer opioid, first identified by a police forensic laboratory in Slovenia in March 2019"
AP-237, is 1-butyrl-4-cinnamylpiperazine
Now, an N-monoprotected version of piperazine is easily prepared either from the base, as per rhodium archive on BZP, as the mono-hydrochloride.
Also the monohydrogen phosphate is available as de-worming medication. Albeit with a tiny amount of sennoside, a laxative, 12.5mg per 8g piperazine phosphate. And some erythrosine dye which can be removed by rextyl'n from acetone and if choosy, MeOH also.
Procedure for synthesis would be as follows:
Take piperazine salt, acylate using either butyric anhydride or butyryl chloride and base, using the salt,
resulting in 1-butyrlpiperazine, acid-base workup, cleaning etc. and then acylation likewise using cinnamic anhydride or the halide of choice and base. The amine HCl scrubber can be removed by a/b workup, whilst the piperazine should be insoluble, being an amide, it won't follow through with a/b, so then simple isolation, and rexy'n
Originally posted by The Self Taught Man I have read with much intrigue the "OTC piperidone –> fentanyl" thread, and feel that is an interesting avenue of opioid research. Highly overlooked has been modifications to the oxymorphone molecule. When the 14-HO of oxymorphone is replaced with an alkyl group, this class of drugs is called the 14-alkoxymorphinans. The 14-alkoxymorphinans include some of the strongest opiates known to man
14-Methoxymetopon is a potent opioid analgesic. When given systemically, it is approximately 500-fold more active than morphine. However, this enhanced potency is markedly increased with either spinal or supraspinal administration, where its analgesic activity is more than a million-fold greater than morphine.
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmc/2012/208039/
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2024-03-08 at 8:07 PM UTC
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2024-03-08 at 9:19 PM UTCDon't do it, you'll end up hooked or dead from fentanyl. I really wouldn't want to see you dead bro and it's not worth the high.
Stick with weed, mephedrone, alcohol, if you want I'll show you how to cook crack on cam out of the coke you can get in Poland and you can do that shit, pretty much every drug is less addictive and less deadly. -
2024-03-08 at 9:23 PM UTC
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2024-03-08 at 9:25 PM UTC... seems really risky
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2024-03-08 at 9:33 PM UTC
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2024-03-08 at 9:34 PM UTCA friend o mine got a bag of purple heroin from a weed trade he did and he's not an opiate guy so he gave it to me.
I smoked some off foil with HTS and we got pretty fucked up. Shit is POTENT as all get out you can do a hit of just a few grains of crumble and get totally intoxicated feeling like you just chugged a bottle of liquor I instantly got dizzy and couldn't move
not nearly as fun as snorting heroin, way less euphoric but I can see the appeal of why people do this and really the only way to do it is injecting that sketchy shit to get the most out of it. It's a slippery slope which is why I prefer sticking to pure drugs instead of street shit