UK Online Safety Bill Passes

1. 2023-11-15 at 11:18 AM UTC

   #281
   

   Donald Trump Black Hole

   Originally posted by aldra second sentence, the companies that issue and verify SSL certificates, the EU wants to control them so that they can decrypt SSL-encrypted traffic.
   
   this only relates to SSL, has nothing to do with tor, though it wouldn't be too hard to shut down tor access if they can get enough ISPs onboard for packet inspection/interception

   
   Proxy interception is already a thing on corporate networks. The browsers there have custom certs inserted that enable interception. The computational cost is pretty high, and they don't do anything with the information, but it's a thing.
   
   Getting the root certificate authorities to give their private keys to government is the next, logical step. It'll happen.
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2. 2023-11-15 at 11:20 AM UTC

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   aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
   yeah, usually it's pretty obvious that you're given the wrong SSL cert in that circumstance though
   
   this would bar the browser from warning you, if it even needs to considering they'd be able to just log encrypted data and decrypt it later
3. 2023-11-15 at 11:23 AM UTC

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   The Self Taught Man Black Hole

   Originally posted by Wariat what is control all CAs? what are CAs?

   
   It’s in the next sentence you fucktarded incel
4. 2023-11-15 at 1:31 PM UTC

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   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by aldra https://last-chance-for-eidas.org
   
   now they basically want the government/s to control all CAs in the EU and force all browsers to hard trust them (cannot be queried, interrogated, blacklisted etc.).
   
   this means that all of the Certificate Authorities that manage SSL certs for every major site will have to give up their private signing keys so that EU governments can decrypt SSL traffic and ostensibly forge certs for other purposes like impersonating sites and MITM attacks.
   
   in theory it undermines the entire SSL scheme, in practice you could install a non-EU compliant browser but it'd still undermine trust in the tiered certificate system because the CAs operating in the EU (a major market) would be forced to give up their keys, which affects everyone.
   
   self-sign everything

   
   i dont understand whats the implication here.
   
   EU is just a very small geographical area and likewise demographically miniscule.
   
   so i dont live in the EU and cant remember whens that last time my life is dependent on EU generated content.
   
   and neither do most of us.
5. 2023-11-15 at 1:35 PM UTC

   #285
   

   aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
   if SSL cert authorities have to hand over their private keys to the EU it makes everyone insecure. consider that it's illegal for most of the intelligence agencies to spy on the communications of US citizens, so instead they have other members of the Five Eyes group do it and pass the information back as a workaround.
   
   potentially they could sign EU and international certs with different keys so that they're not compelled to give up the international keys, but regardless it sets yet another dangerous precedent for cryptographic security.
6. 2023-11-15 at 1:39 PM UTC

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   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by aldra if SSL cert authorities have to hand over their private keys to the EU it makes everyone insecure. consider that it's illegal for most of the intelligence agencies to spy on the communications of US citizens, so instead they have other members of the Five Eyes group do it and pass the information back as a workaround.
   
   potentially they could sign EU and international certs with different keys so that they're not compelled to give up the international keys, but regardless it sets yet another dangerous precedent for cryptographic security.

   
   so people and sites that truly value privacy and security would just either self sign or use certs from non-EU controlled parties.
7. 2023-11-15 at 1:41 PM UTC

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   aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition

   Originally posted by vindicktive vinny so people and sites that truly value privacy and security would just either self sign or use certs from non-EU controlled parties.

   
   self-signing and managing trust is beyond most peoples' understanding.
   
   the other component is they're mandating browsers to accept the state-controlled CAs and the (possibly malicious) certificates they issue
8. 2023-11-15 at 1:42 PM UTC

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   aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
   'padlock good'
9. 2023-11-15 at 1:44 PM UTC

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   vindicktive vinny Black Hole

   Originally posted by aldra self-signing and managing trust is beyond most peoples' understanding.
   
   the other component is they're mandating browsers to accept the state-controlled CAs and the (possibly malicious) certificates they issue

   
   impossible unless they force-upgrade everyone and every site like how they have done with GDR or whatever that cookie-consent thing is called.
10. 2023-11-15 at 1:54 PM UTC

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    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist

    Originally posted by Kafka They're banning harmful content not just illegal content.

    
    would youb call the facial abuse website hurtful content?
11. 2023-11-15 at 1:54 PM UTC

    #291
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny impossible unless they force-upgrade everyone and every site like how they have done with GDR or whatever that cookie-consent thing is called.

    
    something scorn still thinks is fake: GDPR.
12. 2023-11-15 at 2:01 PM UTC

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    ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Black Hole
    The globalist traitors to humanity are losing bad, so they need to get rid of the truth, at all costs. If they don't stop the truth, they're finished.
13. 2023-11-15 at 2:03 PM UTC

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    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The globalist traitors to humanity are losing bad, so they need to get rid of the truth, at all costs. If they don't stop the truth, they're finished.

    
    what obligation do globalists owe the humanity ?
14. 2023-11-15 at 2:04 PM UTC

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    ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Black Hole

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny what obligation do globalists owe the humanity ?

    
    The obligation to get the fuck lost.
15. 2023-11-15 at 2:05 PM UTC

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    vindicktive vinny Black Hole
    whys that ?
16. 2023-11-15 at 2:08 PM UTC

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    ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Black Hole

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny whys that ?

    
    Otherwise, we'd be obligated to smash their empty heads in with large rocks.
17. 2023-11-15 at 2:09 PM UTC

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    The Self Taught Man Black Hole

    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The globalist traitors to humanity are losing bad, so they need to get rid of the truth, at all costs. If they don't stop the truth, they're finished.

    
    In what way are they losing? Seems like they have everything pretty well in hand
18. 2023-11-15 at 2:11 PM UTC

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    ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Black Hole

    Originally posted by Fox In what way are they losing? Seems like they have everything pretty well in hand

    
    It just looks that way, but they're losing on every front. More and more people are waking up every day, and their brainwashing gimmicks are diminishing rapidly.
19. 2023-11-15 at 2:26 PM UTC

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    vindicktive vinny Black Hole

    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Otherwise, we'd be obligated to smash their empty heads in with large rocks.

    
    why are we obliged to do thus.
20. 2023-11-15 at 2:28 PM UTC

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    ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Black Hole