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2023-10-09 at 2:49 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 2:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra what is the justification for a j'ewish state?
Same as any other.
To run a society of like minded individuals by agreed upon rules and regulations. Be that a family group, a tribe, a village, a city, a state, a country, a union of countries, a NWO.
It's perfectly reasonable for a group of people to want to form their own "collective"....ETA: within limits of reasonable governance...a collective of pedophiles for example wouldn't be kosher. -
2023-10-09 at 2:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian Same as any other.
To run a society of like minded individuals by agreed upon rules and regulations. Be that a family group, a tribe, a village, a city, a state, a country, a union of countries, a NWO.
It's perfectly reasonable for a group of people to want to form their own "collective"….ETA: within limits of reasonable governance…a collective of pedophiles for example wouldn't be kosher.
sure, but why do they get to impose theirs on people who had already been living there for millennia?
why should we support them when their people actively lobby against ethnic majority in our countries?
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2023-10-09 at 2:58 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 3 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2023-10-09 at 3:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra and now the people they 'conquered' are fighting back; I don't see why they should be held to rules that the israelis never respected.
The people they "Conquered" (that's really the wrong word as you know) are mostly gone. But sure, if they want to challenge the Israel gov either politically or militarily that's fine...just don't behead kids as part of that process...it's not endearing themselves to anyone except other nutters. -
2023-10-09 at 3:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian The people they "Conquered" (that's really the wrong word as you know) are mostly gone. But sure, if they want to challenge the Israel gov either politically or militarily that's fine…just don't behead kids as part of that process…it's not endearing themselves to anyone except other nutters.
why? what does it matter what tactics they use, outside of effectiveness?
israel constantly kills civilians, they just claim that they 'got in the way' when they were trying to kill 'terrorists'. they have a habit of using the military to snatch people in the middle of the night on 'terrorism' accusations and they're often never seen again. it's all PR; it's no different to when the Ministry of War made a statement reserving the right to bomb niggers, you just can't use the W or N word anymore.
they created this mess by refusing to allow Arabs to be full citizens and refusing to allow them to have their own state. the only solution now is a violent one. -
2023-10-09 at 3:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra why? what does it matter what tactics they use, outside of effectiveness?
Basic acceptable behavior in a society.
Beheading kids is GENERALLY not an acceptable behavior globally. Any group ignoring that consensus is going to be classed as terrorist and possibly face the wrath of other established communities...including and up to, eradication.
ETA: Why the dumb question? you already knew that... -
2023-10-09 at 3:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian I think most of you are just anti Israel…and so your opinions are quite biased and skewed.
The weird thing is I’m actually kinda pro-Israel. They should have a right to continue to exist and look out for their own interests like any other state. I just have a problem with the invasions, the tortures, the terrorizing. Same shit that I have a problem with the US doing even though I’m also pro-US.
The difference is I acknowledge when the side I’m on does something wrong, whereas people like you try to justify and moralize it. -
2023-10-09 at 3:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Fox The weird thing is I’m actually kinda pro-Israel. They should have a right to continue to exist and look out for their own interests like any other state. I just have a problem with the invasions, the tortures, the terrorizing. Same shit that I have a problem with the US doing even though I’m also pro-US.
The difference is I acknowledge when the side I’m on does something wrong, whereas people like you try to justify and moralize it.
Muddying the waters with what "others" are doing has zip to do with the current situation.
I used the "Well everyone else is speeding officer" analogy for a reason...it's irrelevant to you speeding. -
2023-10-09 at 3:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian Basic acceptable behavior in a society.
Beheading kids is GENERALLY not an acceptable behavior globally. Any group ignoring that consensus is going to be classed as terrorist and possibly face the wrath of other established communities…including and up to, eradication.
Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Dresden, Agent Orange in Vietnam, Scarlet Fever to cover the US' retreat in Korea, firing naval shells into cities as they retreated from Lebanon
in israel's case Operation Cast Thy Bread, where they poisoned civilian populations' water supplies in the 40s and 50s, indiscriminate bombings and collective punishments since then
this is not anything new and moral outrage over it seems... forced and insincere.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-10-09 at 3:18 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 3:19 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 3:19 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 3:21 PM UTCI think we're confusing war crimes with crimes against humanity here folx
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2023-10-09 at 3:21 PM UTCObviously the US (as an established country and historically) is guilty of genocide against' native Americans and many other crimes (slavery etc)...again not relevant to the current behavior going on this week of Hamas.
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2023-10-09 at 3:23 PM UTC
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2023-10-09 at 3:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kawkasian Where did I say that?..how is it relevant to current events?
Originally posted by Fox So you agree they’re all terrorists. I just wanted to make sure you weren’t being a hypocrite
Originally posted by Kawkasian
Originally posted by Kawkasian how is it relevant to current events?
moral outrage over 'terrorism' is hollow because targeting civilians is the norm if it can serve a military or political purpose, not some outlier. the only reason states care about 'human rights' are as a weapon to be used against rival states.
Originally posted by Kawkasian Those that dropped a nuke on Nagasaki aren't around anymore either…
the structure and apparatus remains. it created an entirely falsified basis for war with Iraq which has directly killed hundreds of thousands at a bare minimum. -
2023-10-09 at 3:27 PM UTCif anything I think chimping out and doing some extreme violence after being genuinely oppressed for almost a century is far more justifiable than callously creating a false justification for a war you have no intention of fighting in.
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2023-10-09 at 3:28 PM UTCI think you are reading more into a that was there, that's not a statement I don't believe every country is guilty of terrorism at some point in it's history...it's a statement of "wow, that's a dumb fucking point:
the structure and apparatus remains. it created an entirely falsified basis for war with Iraq which has directly killed hundreds of thousands at a bare minimum.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
The WOMD thing in Iraq had nothing to do with nukes...it referred to chemical weapons.
