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  1. Originally posted by Speedy Parker What nobody is speaking about is the fact that the Big Bad Russian Bear, the threat to world wide democracy, stability, and peace for the last 80 plus years and rated the #2 or #3 best military forces in the world hasn't obliterated the Ukraine and they have been at it coming up on 18 months. It's not like that had to deploy across 2 oceans over 6,190 miles away, the Ukraine is right on their front porch. Why?

    at least they dont re-define the word "victory" and call it mission accompliashed on a boat,
  2. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    https://www.newsweek.com/russian-general-admits-ukraine-just-stepping-stone-invade-europe-1825776

    aldra?
  3. Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    newstweak said wariat is gay
  4. These videos are like Rorschach inkblots. They can be whatever you want them to be.
  5. Originally posted by Speedy Parker What nobody is speaking about is the fact that the Big Bad Russian Bear, the threat to world wide democracy, stability, and peace for the last 80 plus years and rated the #2 or #3 best military forces in the world hasn't obliterated the Ukraine and they have been at it coming up on 18 months. It's not like that had to deploy across 2 oceans over 6,190 miles away, the Ukraine is right on their front porch. Why?

    Because Putin is a Young Global Leader, that's why. It's a giant money laundering operation, draining the treasuries of all participating nations, in preparation for the imminent hostile planetary takeover. It's all planned. They all want it just the way it is, and they're going to expand on it.
  6. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Wariat https://www.newsweek.com/russian-general-admits-ukraine-just-stepping-stone-invade-europe-1825776

    aldra?

    if you watch the actual video, which in itself is a heavily edited 1-minute segment from a longer interview, he says that the war is unlikely to end in the Ukraine because the ideologues who engineered it will not allow it to
  7. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra because their goal isn't to obliterate the ukraine

    What did Vlad tell you his goal was?
  8. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny ↑ expert on the subject of experts

    ^Expert on the subject of nothing

  9. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker What did Vlad tell you his goal was?

    same thing he told everyone else who bothered to listen

    1. defending the eastern regions
    2. demilitarisation (destroying the AFU as a modern military)
    3. denazification (dismantling the current political base that they consider a threat both to Russia itself and ethnic Russians within the Ukrainian borders)
  10. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    basically because the west in general has demonstrated that it's unable to keep to any agreement we make, they've decided they need to create a hard buffer zone that cannot be used by NATO rather than a neutral state that 'agrees' not to be used by NATO
  11. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra same thing he told everyone else who bothered to listen

    1. defending the eastern regions
    2. demilitarisation (destroying the AFU as a modern military)
    3. denazification (dismantling the current political base that they consider a threat both to Russia itself and ethnic Russians within the Ukrainian borders)


    So you believed Bush when he said WMDs?
  12. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker So you believed Bush when he said WMDs?

    if you think these two things are in any way comparable it's not even worth me explaining why you're retarded
  13. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra if you think these two things are in any way comparable it's not even worth me explaining why you're retarded

    So you believe Putin and not Bush?
  14. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    on polishforums many of the posters there sitll believe wmd are or were a thing lol.
  15. Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Originally posted by aldra basically because the west in general has demonstrated that it's unable to keep to any agreement we make, they've decided they need to create a hard buffer zone that cannot be used by NATO rather than a neutral state that 'agrees' not to be used by NATO

    except they failed and now have finland and other countries at the border with no buffer zone.
  16. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker So you believe Putin and not Bush?

    it's not about 'believing' anything, it's about their actions being consistent with their stated goals. when Russia entered the Ukraine 60-80% of the AFU was staged in the East to conduct another Anti Terrorist Massacre on the LDNR, Zelensky was in (honestly probably fruitless) talks about getting nuclear weapons back and the entire west was still trying to keep up the charade of the Minsk Accords without actually taking any steps to implement them in order to buy time to further build up what was one of the largest and best-equipped militaries in Europe even before 2014.

    this is the same line of retardation that Technologist was famous for, 'if you don't believe ridiculous claims from Side A then you must believe ridiculous claims from Side B!'
  17. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Wariat except they failed and now have finland and other countries at the border with no buffer zone.

    look at the terrain on the Finnish border and the distance from there to Moscow compared to the Ukraine's east
  18. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra it's not about 'believing' anything, it's about their actions being consistent with their stated goals. when Russia entered the Ukraine 60-80% of the AFU was staged in the East to conduct another Anti Terrorist Massacre on the LDNR, Zelensky was in (honestly probably fruitless) talks about getting nuclear weapons back and the entire west was still trying to keep up the charade of the Minsk Accords without actually taking any steps to implement them in order to buy time to further build up what was one of the largest and best-equipped militaries in Europe even before 2014.

    this is the same line of retardation that Technologist was famous for, 'if you don't believe ridiculous claims from Side A then you must believe ridiculous claims from Side B!'

    1. defending the eastern regions

    1. Ukraine is west of Russia

    2. demilitarisation (destroying the AFU as a modern military)

    2. That is called obliterating the Ukraine. You know, like how the US demilitarized Saddam.

    3. denazification (dismantling the current political base that they consider a threat both to Russia itself and ethnic Russians within the Ukrainian borders)

    3.

  19. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker 1. defending the eastern regions

    1. Ukraine is west of Russia

    Defending the Eastern regions of Ukraine, who are almost entirely ethnic-Russian and wanted nothing to do with the US-imposed coup in 2014, and were bombed relentlessly for 8 years as a result.

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker 2. demilitarisation (destroying the AFU as a modern military)
    2. That is called obliterating the Ukraine. You know, like how the US demilitarized Saddam.

    If you're simple and can't think a step beyond 'bomb everything', sure. The US lost Afghanistan (they only ever really held two cities and some poppy fields) because of this and they're losing Iraq now; Iranian-aligned militias have come close to declaring open season on US forces several times in the last few years. They roll in, destroy everything they can and then wonder why 'democracy' and 'trans rights' don't magically sprout from dead civilians.

    Russia, on the other hand has largely avoided civilian targets and created evacuation corridors like they did in Syria. if you look closely at the targets for their strikes on power infrastructure they typically do not blast turbines and reactors that would take massive part replacements, they attack substations and switching equipment that creates a temporary outage, the goal usually being to either disrupt logistics systems getting weapons to the front (typically trains) or to remind the people living comfortably in the Western part of the country that the war can reach them too. They know that indiscriminately using things like graphite bombs to terrorise civilians shuts down sanitation and water pumps, creating massive secondary deaths and makes the important political changes they desire after the fighting ends much more difficult.

    This is about long-term political change, not just blowing stuff up, which is what US leaders can no longer seem to grasp.

    Originally posted by Speedy Parker 3. denazification (dismantling the current political base that they consider a threat both to Russia itself and ethnic Russians within the Ukrainian borders)

    3.

    it's a propaganda term aimed at the Russian people that retard Ukrainians directly contribute to by wearing nazi gear and tattoos, not because they understand it but because it's just the most anti-Russian thing they can think of
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  20. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by aldra Defending the Eastern regions of Ukraine, who are almost entirely ethnic-Russian and wanted nothing to do with the US-imposed coup in 2014, and were bombed relentlessly for 8 years as a result.

    That would be like Mexico saying they are defending the northern regions by invading Arizona and New Mexico


    I've said it many times before and I'll say it again. You are the dumbest smart person here.
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