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2017-05-29 at 5:35 AM UTCI take that back..well sorta. When I binge on meth and stay up for 48+ hours I'm able to sleep a good 12-14 hours straight sometimes more. It's only after that long rest that I feel normal again aside from being high.
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2017-05-29 at 5:36 AM UTC
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2017-05-29 at 5:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by RestStop Unfortunately yes. IDK WTF it is but I don't think I've stayed asleep for longer than 90 minutes this year..by the time I wake up for the 9th time in 3-4 hours I'm so irritated I'm like fuck it I'm up for the day/night. Which reminds me again need to cop some bars.
Dude, you should seriously go to the doctor for that.
#1) It's incredibly unhealthy and will have a strongly detrimental effect on your physical and psychological effect long-term.
#2) You could have severe sleep apnea. As in, life threatening. 100% serious, this is absolutely something they should test for. Just go to the doctor, tell them your symptoms, and have them perform a sleep study to monitor you and verify. Taking benzos and any other depressants probably greatly increases of you dying in your sleep. -
2017-05-29 at 5:39 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-29 at 5:40 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Dude, you should seriously go to the doctor for that.
#1) It's incredibly unhealthy and will have a strongly detrimental effect on your physical and psychological effect long-term.
#2) You could have severe sleep apnea. As in, life threatening. 100% serious, this is absolutely something they should test for. Just go to the doctor, tell them your symptoms, and have them perform a sleep study to monitor you and verify. Taking benzos and any other depressants probably greatly increases of you dying in your sleep.
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2017-05-29 at 5:43 AM UTCUnless he's been using enough to affect him for an entire year, which would be a ridiculous amount of time to binge to this extent, I would still consider it. The amount of times he's waking up every night sounds really abnormal.
I'm not saying it's necessarily the most likely option. He should at least give stims a long break and see if it resolves, but if he's too stupid or addicted to do so I don't know what else to tell him. -
2017-05-29 at 5:44 AM UTC
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2017-05-29 at 5:44 AM UTCYeah, hey RestStop, here's a cute idea: stop doing drugs.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2017-05-29 at 5:45 AM UTC
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2017-05-29 at 5:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Dude, you should seriously go to the doctor for that.
#1) It's incredibly unhealthy and will have a strongly detrimental effect on your physical and psychological effect long-term.
#2) You could have severe sleep apnea. As in, life threatening. 100% serious, this is absolutely something they should test for. Just go to the doctor, tell them your symptoms, and have them perform a sleep study to monitor you and verify. Taking benzos and any other depressants probably greatly increases of you dying in your sleep.
can sleep apnea really be deadly? My wife says I have it but I've never given it much thought. I mean I stop breathing but obviously I keep doing it in the end -
2017-05-29 at 5:46 AM UTC
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2017-05-29 at 5:48 AM UTC
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2017-05-29 at 5:50 AM UTCTfw meth for the first time
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2017-05-29 at 5:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice I've got it.
Lanny, do you have a vague memory of when I posted, possibly in a relevant thread, an idea I'd had for a while as the most effective torture method? It involved using substances in animal studies, mainly on rats, that induced apoptosis, cell death, for certain receptors in the brain. This is used, for example to study how what developmental and behavioral differences may arise from a complete lack of serotonin. I won't reiterate it, but it came to me when I realized that you could increase a person's capacity for suffering and trap them into a nightmarish perpetual state, without reprieve, where they would be locked in and forcibly, cruelly, kept alive in a hospital for the rest of their lives.
Then I had another thought for an optimal variation of it. The infamous prolific hitman known as "The Iceman". One of the FBI agents who was undercover and working to infiltrate the criminal organization he was involved in and bring him down stated that one of his personal favorite murder devices was an old school perfume bottle, the one with the air sack you squeeze, to aerosolize a mixture of sodium cyanide and a solvent. Due to the particularly high bioavailability of the intranasal route, direct contact with the olfactory neurons completely bypassing the blood brain barrier for some substances, this would be an almost guaranteed death sentence, just breathing in the tiniest amount. The agent said that he knew that if he ever saw him pull it out he was in immediate risk of death and would need to open fire as quickly as possible.
The simple solution would be to use the second method, except using a simple mixture of flubromazolam, an extremely potent benzo, the most potent I am aware of (There could be others used in research with even higher potency), that also has very strong sedative effects, and ethanol. You would essentially have the closest thing to an effective knockout gas available.
During the Moscow theatre hostage crisis an aerosolized benzodiazepine was one of the main substances speculated to be used: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moscow_theater_hostage_crisis
Of course, as the above suggests, it wouldn't be a gas, simply very finely aerosolized. Another option, to go even further, would be to add DMSO so that even if a sufficient dosage does not enter the nasal and buccal cavities it will still penetrate the skin, further improving efficacy. And at the right dosage, since in this case the purpose, as will become clear, will certainly not be to avoid serious harm or risk of death (administer an antagonist of some other effective treatment for high level benzodiazepine overdose (This information would be very easy to find)), incapacitation would occur so rapidly that they would be helpless.
The next step would be to administer the drugs by simple injection, intrathecal administration being the most effective in this case, and a feasible ROA due to the state of the victim. Now, you may ask, how would you acquire them? Where do researchers acquire them? In my search for a source of phenelzine someone pointed me towards a website they had used for tranylcypromine (Parnate). Normally they require verification, but not all do, even if they should. Simply using the right language when stating what his intended use for it was, possibly an EDU email (you can buy these, I bought one to use with Amazon Prime), was enough for him. It's simple. Of course it would be best not to have this traceable to you, but of course this is no problem.
What would be one of their most valued traits, something that so profoundly affects their lives, that they are dependent on to maintain their current life, that they would most hate to lose, for someone like Lanny? Their intelligence.
You wake up with a USB drive, untraceable, that contains a recording of the entire process, so you can be sure it occurred. The IV entry is verifiable as well. You have a note telling you the timeframe over which the effects will occur, how you will lose a considerable amount of your cognitive ability, even being driven to average would be enough. You rush to an emergency room, of course a serious police and medical investigation is done, but even if they identify the substance, they are powerless to stop it. The cells targeted will die, you hear the message you dread the most, "There is nothing they can do for you."
And after waking there was one more detail you remember. A bouquet had been left to you. The small card attached simply showed the name "Algernon".
Operation Flowers for Algernon
truly terrifying from someone who struggles to leave their home.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-05-29 at 5:52 AM UTCMalice, would you say you wrote that in a state of mania
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2017-05-29 at 5:53 AM UTC
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2017-05-29 at 6:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny truly terrifying from someone who struggles to leave their home.
I'm clearly capable of doing so. I greatly dislike being outside for perfectly good reasons, I'm not incapable of doing so if I have a clear purpose.
Originally posted by Discount Whore Malice, would you say you wrote that in a state of mania
No, why? My depression is completely unipolar, the only time I've felt mania was on shrooms with a bit of 2-FMA. Damn, that was a great feeling, everything was fantastic and incredible.
Did you know that at least half of long-term patients on Nardil develop hypomania, or even full blown? It's even higher for those on high (Adequate, really. I'd say the standard dose is too low.) doses.
Think of that, Lanny. You once asked PoC whether he'd like to work with me (In the same place. You meant it in a negative manner.). Then you responded to a post by explaining that you would be concerned that I may be capable of getting it together long enough to ruin everything for you.
I really should do something relatively minor, but still horrible in a way, just to prove I can. -
2017-05-29 at 6:04 AM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Dude, you should seriously go to the doctor for that.
#1) It's incredibly unhealthy and will have a strongly detrimental effect on your physical and psychological effect long-term.
#2) You could have severe sleep apnea. As in, life threatening. 100% serious, this is absolutely something they should test for. Just go to the doctor, tell them your symptoms, and have them perform a sleep study to monitor you and verify. Taking benzos and any other depressants probably greatly increases of you dying in your sleep.
I recently considered number 2 being a good possibility myself. I don't binge on stims/meffs very often...like maybe a week out of the month(I know that still sounds like a lot but it used to be 24/7 unless I was asleep which was hardly ever) I'll probably head to the doctor later this morning if nothing else out of sheer boredom. -
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