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van frame is cracked, can you put a fishplate on it
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2023-08-16 at 3:09 AM UTCi bolted a bunch of heavy chit onto the arse of my van and put a bunch of weight on a hitch-carrier and then drivved it like a raped-badger on these hard roads for 50k miles and hit literary a thousand potholes or more plus a lot of wash boards and flabby ripples. yeah so anyway just aft of the rear axle on both sides the 'frame' ( id call it a hat-channel integrated/welded to the floorpan ) is buckled and cracked starting at the bottom and going up to the top.
its a 1ton GM , i thought it was a unibody but apparently its "unitized" ( sounds like a nice marketing term to pretend like its not unibody to me , but i digest )Well unibody is not an accurate description for the 73-96 fullsize vans as they have a full frame under them. However the vans have UNITIZED construction where the body is WELDED to the chassis and part of the structure.
anybody in norcal know a guhy to beef it up cause otherwise im going to have to take all my treasures out , send it to the crusher ( and cry 20 dozen tears on my little pillow ) and get a prius
how do you find a guy to fix it because apparently its "forbidden" to fix a fucked up piece of shit -
2023-08-16 at 3:12 AM UTCI told you to paint it white
This shit doesn't happen to white vansThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-08-16 at 3:13 AM UTCFind a welder that does side jobs
I've fish plates tons of shit over the yearsThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-08-16 at 3:17 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2023-08-16 at 5:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by CountBlah Find a welder that does side jobs
I've fish plates tons of shit over the years
it doesnt seem like its very thick material which makes me wonder if its feasible to make a good repair, i need to find a fuy to look at it. the crack im worried about is above the air bag, similar on the other side of vehicle but smaller
I just got back from Colorado today and literary had fun but now im depressed that im supposed to go to work tomorrow im thinking about just quitting because its gay and i hate it but i have to go in to pickup my toolbag either way, at least if i quit i can sleep in first. if i do quit i cant afford to keep living vacation forever because its a quarndry and literary my frame is cracked and my tyres are all decrepit and one just blew and the rest look ready to go, but im trying to figger out if its worth putting a new set on. honestly man, none of it really makes any sense but thats the plight of a blue-shirt in this new global economy -
2023-08-16 at 6:16 AM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor it doesnt seem like its very thick material which makes me wonder if its feasible to make a good repair, i need to find a fuy to look at it. the crack im worried about is above the air bag, similar on the other side of vehicle but smaller
I just got back from Colorado today and literary had fun but now im depressed that im supposed to go to work tomorrow im thinking about just quitting because its gay and i hate it but i have to go in to pickup my toolbag either way, at least if i quit i can sleep in first. if i do quit i cant afford to keep living vacation forever because its a quarndry and literary my frame is cracked and my tyres are all decrepit and one just blew and the rest look ready to go, but im trying to figger out if its worth putting a new set on. honestly man, none of it really makes any sense but thats the plight of a blue-shirt in this new global economy
dump it and buy a used Odyssey with Low Miles and sleep in it. or a Honda Pilot. also you might have to put your motorcycle in storage. thats prolly 350 bucks a month. -
2023-08-16 at 6:17 AM UTCI didn't know what fish-plate meant. so its basically what people use as a lift kit? like have these plates welded until you hit a certain height?
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2023-08-16 at 6:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by Pete Green I didn't know what fish-plate meant. so its basically what people use as a lift kit? like have these plates welded until you hit a certain height?
its like a bandaid ... made out of metal. probably all the wrong terminology but i think usually they fill the crack with a weld, and then put a bigger piece over the damaged area to beef it up and spread out the stress in the future. dunno why but when i look it up they are usually crescent shaped, i just pictured cutting a rectangle shaped piece to put over it.
heres a picture of a fishplate frame repair
the bracket my airbag is on i think is where my bump-stop used to be, its so close to the crack it looks like its in the way and would complicate the job -
2023-08-16 at 6:33 AM UTCI wonder if there is a special CA glue that would work. without welding kek-af
Tha prolly werk goody
but good luck with that for now. -
2023-08-16 at 6:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by Pete Green I wonder if there is a special CA glue that would work. without welding kek-af
Tha prolly werk goody
but good luck with that for now.
this is no job for JPweld i need a real macho man who drives a dually truck with a big welder on the back and mud-flap girl on the mudflaps. a guy who knows how to dip and do fish plates -
2023-08-16 at 6:39 AM UTCI think you can get super size bottles of CA glue (like superglue) from temu or amazon. then when you glue it on, you throw Baking Soda on it and it hardens instantly and rock hard. Im not lying. on youtube they showed the USAF used this to fix holes in F-35 and the Spirit B-2 that got bullet holes in them.
cant find it but here is one
cinimin, baking soda, ash and other powder shit will harden like a diamond.
temporary fix -
2023-08-16 at 6:42 AM UTCsuperglu can barely stuck a dildo onto a hardhat i think i wanna fix steel with steel
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2023-08-16 at 6:50 AM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor superglu can barely stuck a dildo onto a hardhat i think i wanna fix steel with steel
Because you need a type of catalyst according to the video. an accelerator thingy ma bob added. something that makes it bond like steel in a second.
if you're using a big flat plate like this and can't find a welder, you just use a shitload of superglue and dampen the partnered area you're applying the steel plate with glue on with baking soda. dampen it for the soda to afix the plate with the superglue on that side and make sure you apply the thing onto it. one time shot. get as accurate as possible and slap it on and push it in tight for a few seconds. it will heat up pretty hot. but won't burst into flames. it might smoke or steam a bit so dont breath around it. -
2023-08-16 at 6:54 AM UTCglue on plate and dampen the cracked area so baking soda sticks to it easier. then align the metal plate with the glue (obviously) facing the cracked axel/chassy whatever and push it against the thing and make sure your fingers dont get stuck in there or you're fucked.
and then use the bottom of your shoes or bear feet and press it for a few seconds. it heats up fast
maybe both the front and back side of it with a plate on both sides.
then take it to a honda dealer and use it as a down payment on a lease for a Honda Odyssey with collapsible back seats (that go into the floor board) and you can fit a full site double mattress and live in a new car for 3 years. rinse and repeat the new car lease in 2026
