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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2023-07-09 at 4:11 PM UTC
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2023-07-09 at 4:32 PM UTC
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2023-07-09 at 5:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Sure. It was a manufactured extermination operation.
not many died, a lot had permanent or at least long-term negative effects
it was more about forcing servicemen to serve as a testing cadre for dangerous experimental medical tech because they could not refuse and had no real legal recourse when it fucked them up -
2023-07-09 at 6:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra not many died, a lot had permanent or at least long-term negative effects
it was more about forcing servicemen to serve as a testing cadre for dangerous experimental medical tech because they could not refuse and had no real legal recourse when it fucked them up
They all died later. It takes time for the concoctions to do their work. -
2023-07-09 at 7:07 PM UTCI got all kinds of shots, every deployment we got more and this in peace times. Maybe I got some good shit+low level radiation because I can't remember the last time I had a cold or flu.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2023-07-10 at 11:24 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2023-07-10 at 11:36 AM UTC
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2023-07-10 at 11:39 AM UTCOk I can view it in incognito in browser.
What a tragedy that the bugmen that made that video will doubtless survive the war. -
2023-07-10 at 11:40 AM UTCyeah sorry I tried downloading the video but I think elon fucked some things up that gallery-dl uses
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2023-07-10 at 1:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I was talking about small arms, assault rifles, just as a general reference not a direct comparison. most of the munitions fired are meant to restrict the enemy's movement and overwhelm them so that they can be killed without being able to accurately return fire.
and i was talking about russian artillery shells tho, they fired like 50-60k shells just to kill 500-600 ukrainian combatants.sure, but in comparison to cruise missiles for example, the delivery, targeting and EM suppression systems don't need to be built into every munition. if you can reasonably guarantee that the planes won't be attacked the savings are huge.
a cruise missile to take out a convoy of 4-8, maybe 12 vehicles along a ratline ? those arent high value targets and i dont know what justifies it.thermobaric glide bombs from heavyweight bombers, maximising the volume of bombs per plane. thermobarics can kill people over wide areas because the power of the shockwave causes lungs to collapse, and they work by burning the oxygen out of the air so men in cover like trenches can simply suffocate depending on circumstances. they may not penetrate heavy armor but they can effectively disable equipment by damaging external mechanisms like wheels and treads, sensors, loaders etc.
yea, sure. heavy bombers with a plane load of unguided thermobarrics.
problem - theyre unguided, which means you cant controll where they land. they have a wide kill radius, good, so wide they could encroach into friendly positions, and against a small group of combatants approaching your own trench.
now the ukrainians are using vietcong's hugging tactics of storming russian position on fast moving unarmored vehicles and getting so close to them that russian artilleries are unable to respond without shooting their own soldiers, and you propose to send a plane load of FAEs with wide kill radius onto them.in terms of pure cost to deploy and fire sure, but they're limited by range and the fact that the enemy has comparable pieces which restricts where you can move them - even with superiority in accuracy and the volume of munitions you can throw at the enemy, you'll still suffer attrition from counterbattery fire and vital enemy infrastructure will be kept out of their range as much as possible
thats just the cost of doing war.
remember someone said that in war there are no winners, only those who can sustain more losses.
and this is it. it doesnt matter if russians lose a gun or 2 for every single ukrainian gun they take out, the russians can sustain it, the ukrainians cant.
one has a sustainable attrition, the other not.
one will lost a little, the other will not recover. -
2023-07-10 at 1:26 PM UTCTwo steps forward, one step back.
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2023-07-10 at 1:28 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2023-07-10 at 1:50 PM UTClol Nah, both have normal bodies and smarter than me. One was going for a scholarship at MIT but didn't get, he was accepted but they gave the scholarship to an Indian with worse grades and ACT.
So yeah you can go but you gots to pay, he said fuck that shit. It's not racist if you do it to whitey. -
2023-07-10 at 2:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny and i was talking about russian artillery shells tho, they fired like 50-60k shells just to kill 500-600 ukrainian combatants.
point is that's just how modern war is.
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny yea, sure. heavy bombers with a plane load of unguided thermobarrics.
problem - theyre unguided, which means you cant controll where they land. they have a wide kill radius, good, so wide they could encroach into friendly positions, and against a small group of combatants approaching your own trench.
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/umpk.htm
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny now the ukrainians are using vietcong's hugging tactics of storming russian position on fast moving unarmored vehicles and getting so close to them that russian artilleries are unable to respond without shooting their own soldiers, and you propose to send a plane load of FAEs with wide kill radius onto them.
of course you can't use them for everything though; Russian lines have been fortified for like a year now, you don't need to be dropping thermobarics on vehicles charging through minefields into artillery fire. aerial bombs are for logistics, barracks, staging areas and crucial stuff like that that aren't typically right on the front lines -
2023-07-10 at 3:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by jerryb lol Nah, both have normal bodies and smarter than me. One was going for a scholarship at MIT but didn't get, he was accepted but they gave the scholarship to an Indian with worse grades and ACT.
So yeah you can go but you gots to pay, he said fuck that shit. It's not racist if you do it to whitey.
then you didnt get radiation exposures.
or worse, both of them not yours.
decide which one is a blessing and which one is a curse.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2023-07-10 at 3:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra point is that's just how modern war is.
resource intensive on a scale most couldnt imagine.https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/umpk.htm
afaik those glide bombs can only be launched by small planes like fighter-bombers, and not the type of heavy bombers you mentioned.of course you can't use them for everything though; Russian lines have been fortified for like a year now, you don't need to be dropping thermobarics on vehicles charging through minefields into artillery fire. aerial bombs are for logistics, barracks, staging areas and crucial stuff like that that aren't typically right on the front lines
thats what i said.
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny air power is only good for slow moving targets like tanks and IFVs that can be seen from a great distance with IR, out of MANPADS range.
air power is absolutely useless against troops on foot bearing MANPADS and RPGs. -
2023-07-10 at 7:16 PM UTCThis war is like a midget threatening a sumo wrestler.
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2023-07-10 at 7:18 PM UTCA sumo wrestler on life support in ICU
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2023-07-10 at 8:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny then you didnt get radiation exposures.
or worse, both of them not yours.
decide which one is a blessing and which one is a curse.
Nah they are mine, even have DNA evidence. I slept and worked for years 50 feet from a reactor and subrocs. Just low level exposure, if you got to much you would be kicked off for awhile. -
2023-07-11 at 12:22 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1677687481829818369
new AFU trailer just dropped
Jesus Christ the amount of cringe Ukraine has brought to the table should be a warcrimeThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
