Police shooting in Nashville

1. 2023-03-29 at 2:02 PM UTC

   #41
   

   Sweet African Astronaut

   Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Thread title…"Police shooting in Nashville"
   
   

   
   Immediate subject: whether a beanbag round would have been a viable response option.
   
   Answer: yes.
2. 2023-03-29 at 2:04 PM UTC

   #42
   

   Ember McLain Houston

   Originally posted by Sweet Try firing a gun accurately when you just took a beanbag to the chest or head.

   gladly
   Give me a gun and shoot me nigger
   
   
3. 2023-03-29 at 2:05 PM UTC

   #43
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

   Originally posted by Ember McLain gladly
   Give me a gun and shoot me nigger
   
   

   
   Well first you have to break into my property or pose a direct threat...that means leaving your house.
4. 2023-03-29 at 2:08 PM UTC

   #44
   

   jerryb African Astronaut
   You have to get fairly close to use some of those non-lethal weapons, you'd be fucked if they had a gun while fiddle fucking around with a taser. I'm no big fan of the police but smart enough not to be reaching for something when they are pointing a gun at me.
   
   That's why I teach my kids to keep their hands where cops can see them.
5. 2023-03-29 at 2:08 PM UTC

   #45
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

   Originally posted by Sweet Try firing a gun accurately when you just took a beanbag to the chest or head.

   
   
   
   Much more likely to happen than if you took a hollow point to the chest or head...that's kind of the point you seem to be missing.
   
   When you are faced with a direct threat you take the best and most likely to work action available...that would be pumping several rounds into the threat...not several bean bags.
   
   
6. 2023-03-29 at 2:10 PM UTC

   #46
   

   Sweet African Astronaut

   Originally posted by jerryb You have to get fairly close to use some of those non-lethal weapons, you'd be fucked if they had a gun while fiddle fucking around with a taser. I'm no big fan of the police but smart enough not to be reaching for something when they are pointing a gun at me.
   
   That's why I teach my kids to keep their hands where cops can see them.

   
   A beanbag round is literally a shotgun load.
7. 2023-03-29 at 2:11 PM UTC

   #47
   

   Sweet African Astronaut

   Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Much more likely to happen than if you took a hollow point to the chest or head…that's kind of the point you seem to be missing.

   
   No it isn't. You are factually incorrect. That's the point you seem to be missing.
8. 2023-03-29 at 2:11 PM UTC

   #48
   Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

   Originally posted by Sweet A beanbag round is literally a shotgun load.

   
   Um a beanbag does not enter the body as a metal shot does.
   
   Again, shoot a shotgun shell at someone from 30ft and shoot a beanbag at someone from 30ft.
   
   Report the results.
9. 2023-03-29 at 2:13 PM UTC

   #49
   

   vindicktive vinny Black Hole
   put your ammo where your mouth is.
   
   arguments about the effectiveness of guns and ammos are useless unless theyre settle with duel with the said weapons.
10. 2023-03-29 at 2:15 PM UTC

    #50
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny put your ammo where your mouth is.
    
    arguments about the effectiveness of guns and ammos are useless unless theyre settle with duel with the said weapons.

    
    The data is readily available.
11. 2023-03-29 at 2:15 PM UTC

    #51
    

    Sweet African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Um a beanbag does not enter the body as a metal shot does.

    
    Yes
12. 2023-03-29 at 2:16 PM UTC

    #52
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by Sweet Yes

    
    Glad you agree.
13. 2023-03-29 at 2:20 PM UTC

    #53
    

    Sweet African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Again, shoot a shotgun shell at someone from 30ft and shoot a beanbag at someone from 30ft.

    
    Nobody was ever arguing that a beanbag is more damaging than a regular shotgun shells.
    
    Jiggoalpost_Moverson
14. 2023-03-29 at 2:20 PM UTC

    #54
    

    Sweet African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Glad you agree.

    
    Ok
15. 2023-03-29 at 2:25 PM UTC

    #55
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by Sweet Nobody was ever arguing that a beanbag is more damaging than a regular shotgun shells.
    
    Jiggoalpost_Moverson

    
    Well the underlying question was why not use beanbags or tasers first..that's been explained.
    
    You use the most effective method available to you to stop a "perceived" direct threat...that again would be real guns and real bullets.
    
    Why is this even a discussion?
16. 2023-03-29 at 2:26 PM UTC

    #56
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole
    If a perp CHOOSES to challenge someone pointing a gun at them...the resulting action taken is on them.
    
    "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" etc.
17. 2023-03-29 at 2:26 PM UTC

    #57
    

    Sweet African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Well the underlying question was why not use beanbags or tasers first..that's been explained.
    
    You use the most effective method available to you to stop a "perceived" direct threat…that again would be real guns and real bullets.

    
    
    Handguns are no more effective or reliable at immediate incapacitation.
    
    /Argument.
18. 2023-03-29 at 2:27 PM UTC

    #58
    Jiggaboo_Johnson Black Hole

    Originally posted by Sweet Handguns are no more effective or reliable at immediate incapacitation.
    
    /Argument.

    
    again laughable.
    
    Please post your data which shows several beanbags is just as effective at stopping someone was several hollow point are.
19. 2023-03-29 at 2:28 PM UTC

    #59
    

    Sweet African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson If a perp CHOOSES to challenge someone pointing a gun at them…the resulting action taken is on them.
    
    "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" etc.

    
    Completely irrelevant to whether handguns have any advantage in terms of immediate incapacitation (they don't).
20. 2023-03-29 at 2:30 PM UTC

    #60
    

    Sweet African Astronaut

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson again laughable.
    
    Please post your data which shows several beanbags is just as effective at stopping someone was several hollow point are.

    
    No need because it's totally irrelevant to the issue under discussion.