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2017-05-12 at 9:26 PM UTC
Have I ever said a thing about computer science to you?
Originally posted by Malice I know that CompSci majors like you tend to have devoted so much of your lives to it that you really aren't good at anything else, philosophy being the one thing you seem to have a propensity for, although in terms of practical value you're never going to anything that will make any significant impact at all with it.
Originally posted by Lanny You take the opportunity to tell me about the aggregate psychology of people in my field (one you'd probably struggle to even define on the spot) on a regular basis
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2017-05-12 at 9:37 PM UTC
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TL;DR : ITT Malice is a whiny ass faggot. -
2017-05-12 at 9:48 PM UTCIn the view of amateur psychologist Dr Reject, it appears that Malice is lashing out at his mate, possibly as a defence mechanism to stop someone becoming intimately attached, for fear of his other half getting bored with him and ditching him for a better lover.
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2017-05-12 at 9:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny The entire point was there's more to treatment than drugs, but this seems to have gone entirely over your head.
You know I'd prefer to go down the CBT route than drug route, I mean, imo drugs don't really cure anything. Sure they might mask or help symptoms, but ultimately you're still fucked in the head, but now just fucked in the head with drugs.
Kinda weird I'm against taking pharmaceutical drugs to help my mental health but put a chinese made RC in front of me and it'll be straight in my blood stream -
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2017-05-12 at 9:55 PM UTCi've always wanted to try electro-convulsive therapy. i'm actually pretty sure that it works.
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2017-05-12 at 9:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by reject You know I'd prefer to go down the CBT route than drug route, I mean, imo drugs don't really cure anything. Sure they might mask or help symptoms, but ultimately you're still fucked in the head, but now just fucked in the head with drugs.
Kinda weird I'm against taking pharmaceutical drugs to help my mental health but put a chinese made RC in front of me and it'll be straight in my blood stream
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2017-05-12 at 9:57 PM UTCLanny, no, that was just an introductory overview, albeit a rather good one (He is a professional psychiatrist), of what's considered the first line of antidepressants and all most people are going to get.
Of course I didn't simply read that blog post and base my entire views on it. You're making asinine assumptions and misinterpretations as well.
I did misinterpret your post, but you weren't clear about it. Of course medication is only part of the process, and I was only criticizing the psychiatric field, and there are a multitude of valid criticisms to be made. I specifically stated multiple times before that I was seeking and planning on entering multiple types of therapy, whatever was available.
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2017-05-12 at 10 PM UTC
Originally posted by snab_snib i've always wanted to try electro-convulsive therapy. i'm actually pretty sure that it works.
yeah... sure... just ask rocky erikson/daniel johnston how their electro shocks helped them...
rocky erickson rocks but he's crazier than a shit house rat, he used to sit on benches in the park and break into analytical tears
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2017-05-12 at 10:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Bill Krozby what kind of pharms are you taking for your mental state?
Zero.
I smoke weed, drink occasionally but not every day like I used to, and take codeine, well shit, I can't remember the last time I had codeine.
And that's it, nothing else these days, more weed than anything else, about a gram a day and beers or a bottle of vodka at the weekend -
2017-05-12 at 10:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by reject You know I'd prefer to go down the CBT route than drug route, I mean, imo drugs don't really cure anything. Sure they might mask or help symptoms, but ultimately you're still fucked in the head, but now just fucked in the head with drugs.
Kinda weird I'm against taking pharmaceutical drugs to help my mental health but put a chinese made RC in front of me and it'll be straight in my blood stream
Think of it this way: If genes undisputably influence things like your height, eye color, skin, hair, anything that even SJWs/blank slate leftists wouldn't have a problem accepting, why would your brain be any different? For example, maybe some people are naturally born with lower levels of GABA or receptors, leading to higher anxiety. Pretty much anything that drugs target, there's going to be some variation and disorders related to it.
You probably should try CBT and other forms of therapy to be sure, but the research does clearly demonstrate that they're far more effective when combined with medication. And for genuinely endogenous disorders, its efficacy can be nearly useless.
Originally posted by snab_snib i've always wanted to try electro-convulsive therapy. i'm actually pretty sure that it works.
The efficacy does seem to be legitimately very high. I actually downloaded a book on treatment resistant mood disorders recently that contains a section on it. Combined with MAOIs the remission rate is pretty damn impressive. Of course the common depiction is completely inaccurate and there are enormous misconceptions, anyone considering it should become aware of that.
Transcranial brain stimulation is another option, somewhat similar to ECT, that many insurance companies are beginning to cover. I'd definitely try it first, if possible, and it would be a lot easier to get. It's a really fascinating treatment. -
2017-05-12 at 10:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by reject Zero.
I smoke weed, drink occasionally but not every day like I used to, and take codeine, well shit, I can't remember the last time I had codeine.
And that's it, nothing else these days, more weed than anything else, about a gram a day and beers or a bottle of vodka at the weekend
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2017-05-12 at 10:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by reject In the view of amateur psychologist Dr Reject, it appears that Malice is lashing out at his mate, possibly as a defence mechanism to stop someone becoming intimately attached, for fear of his other half getting bored with him and ditching him for a better lover.
MALICE : "FUCK U I HATE JOOO!" (queue analytical tears) -
2017-05-12 at 10:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Malice Think of it this way: If genes undisputably influence things like your height, eye color, skin, hair, anything that even SJWs/blank slate leftists wouldn't have a problem accepting, why would your brain be any different? For example, maybe some people are naturally born with lower levels of GABA or receptors, leading to higher anxiety. Pretty much anything that drugs target, there's going to be some variation and disorders related to it.
You probably should try CBT and other forms of therapy to be sure, but the research does clearly demonstrate that they're far more effective when combined with medication. And for genuinely endogenous disorders, its efficacy can be nearly useless.
Yea I get that, I haven't even done 1% of the reading you've done on it but idk, I can't put it into words but taking drugs for mental health reasons seems like fucking with my brain and changing who I am. I kinda feel like how my brain is is a part of me and I don't really wanna "change" it. I wanna learn how to handle it and control, tame it if you will, but not dampen it or fundamentally alter it. I like being me, I like who I am even if nobody else does, I've never once wished I was someone else -
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