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Illinois’ plan to end cash bail is not a ‘purge law.’ It will, however, stop the criminalization of poverty
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2022-09-20 at 11:45 AM UTCwhat happened to the I?
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2022-09-20 at 11:45 AM UTCI remember when I first went to America, people would talk about being mugged and about crime, even though everyone I met seemed very nice. Even people who got mugged wouldn't talk about who mugged them, but I noticed they'd walk quicker if they were around the group of people who mugged them. It took me a while to figure it out.
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2022-09-20 at 11:47 AM UTCAll Americans should be looking for reparations from the descendants of those who brought slaves into the country. Back in the day slavers were looked down upon and hated by everyone, especially the white working class.
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2022-09-20 at 3:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra what a stupid take
it removes the requirement for people who have been charged with a serious crime to provide collateral until they're able to clear their name and replaces it with nothingUnder the new law, people charged with a crime can be detained if a prosecutor presents evidence to a judge that a person is 1) a threat to public safety, 2) a flight risk from prosecution, 3) violated any terms of their release or 4) were simply accused of mostly felony crimes—despite the numerous infographics floating around erroneously claiming that judges and prosecutors will be unable to detain people accused of murder and other violent crimes. What the law does is establish a higher standard for detainment.
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2022-09-20 at 3:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump All Americans should be looking for reparations from the descendants of those who brought slaves into the country. Back in the day slavers were looked down upon and hated by everyone, especially the white working class.
Africans were the root cause of European slave trading. -
2022-09-20 at 3:59 PM UTCgoverner lightfoot did nothing wrong
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2022-09-20 at 3:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker Africans were the root cause of European slave trading.
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2022-09-20 at 4 PM UTCIllinois, lol..who cares what that 3rd world state does.
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2022-09-20 at 4:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Truth Details Under the new law, people charged with a crime can be detained if a prosecutor presents evidence to a judge that a person is 1) a threat to public safety, 2) a flight risk from prosecution, 3) violated any terms of their release or 4) were simply accused of mostly felony crimes—despite the numerous infographics floating around erroneously claiming that judges and prosecutors will be unable to detain people accused of murder and other violent crimes. What the law does is establish a higher standard for detainment.
you think the law should be applied selectively at the whims of unelected officials? -
2022-09-20 at 4:02 PM UTC
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2022-09-20 at 4:03 PM UTC
Originally posted by Truth Details https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_don%27t_make_a_right
Neither does rewriting history -
2022-09-20 at 4:04 PM UTC
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2022-09-20 at 4:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Truth Details the new system would actually acknowledge both the presumption of innocence and public safety, two factors that cash bail never considers.
both of which are entirely at the judge's discretion under this legislation.
but hey, you're the one that has to live there, so enjoy I guess.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-09-20 at 4:05 PM UTC
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2022-09-20 at 4:06 PM UTC
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2022-09-20 at 4:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra both of which are entirely at the judge's discretion under this legislation.
but hey, you're the one that has to live there, so enjoy I guess.
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2022-09-20 at 4:09 PM UTC
Top 10 Countries with the highest rate of incarceration
United States — 629
Rwanda — 580
Turkmenistan — 576
El Salvador — 564
Cuba — 510
Palau — 478
British Virgin Islands (U.K. territory) — 477
Thailand — 445
Panama — 423
Saint Kitts and Nevis — 423 -
2022-09-20 at 4:09 PM UTC
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2022-09-20 at 4:10 PM UTCyou know this doesn't affect incarceration rates unless they go on a rampage and continue to commit crimes during the period they would've otherwise been remanded right
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2022-09-20 at 4:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra but hey, you're the one that has to live there, so enjoy I guess.
https://www.aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/2020-05/bail-australia.pdf
