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Biden cancels 10k-20k in student loans for those making under 125k
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2022-08-25 at 1:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson 1. It's not the governments debt to pay. It's the person who signed up for the loan's debt. (google "personal responsibility")
2. The government isn't paying for it, the taxpayer is (aka people who didn't sign up for the debt are being forced to pay for others lack of personal responsibility)
Stay in school kid. (ETA but makes sure you pay for it your fucking self)
Lol 'personal responsibility'.
Nobody should be responsible for being born in the wrong time period. Nobody should be responsible for the government failing to stop predatory loans for decades. The government's one and only job is to ensure the wellbeing of its citizens. These libertarian fundamentalist ideas do not pan out in real life. Maybe try living in Somalia if that's the kind of government you want. Every modern nation has some form of social welfare, or else there is no point in government at all. Imagine if you had a personal responsibility to build your own roads or check your food for botulism. People argued against things like federal funding of roads, and the creation of the FDA, using exactly the same arguments you're making now.
I'd rather have my taxpayer dollars go back to the actual taxpayers than those bullshit PPP loans the government gave out during COVID. This is less money than that, and gets put to a better purpose.
I've already graduated, and paid for my school, so I don't get anything from this except having a less predatory loan if I ever decide to go back to college. -
2022-08-25 at 1:44 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rape Monster Why do all liberals think that money just gets printed out of thin air
Why do all conservatives believe we don't have enough money to pay for this stuff?
USA is one of the wealthiest nations to have ever existed. There are lots of other nations that are able to pull this off with less resources.
What issues does it cause for Norway? For Germany, France, Brazil, Iceland? You tell me.
In the early 1900's, free college was becoming a thing in America. A lot of them would let you work there to pay for your tuition (while also paying you). Now people work at college just to pay off their student loans.
but you wouldn't know any of that. You just think any spending is bad. Taxes bad. Government never do good thing! -
2022-08-25 at 1:50 PM UTComfg tell me this isnt real guys hes gonna do it again , hes already talking to schumer and pelosi about it, hes gonna cancel more student debt WTF
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2022-08-25 at 1:52 PM UTC
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2022-08-25 at 2:09 PM UTC
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2022-08-25 at 2:22 PM UTC
Originally posted by Steven Lol 'personal responsibility'.
Nobody should be responsible for being born in the wrong time period. Nobody should be responsible for the government failing to stop predatory loans for decades. The government's one and only job is to ensure the wellbeing of its citizens. These libertarian fundamentalist ideas do not pan out in real life. Maybe try living in Somalia if that's the kind of government you want. Every modern nation has some form of social welfare, or else there is no point in government at all. Imagine if you had a personal responsibility to build your own roads or check your food for botulism. People argued against things like federal funding of roads, and the creation of the FDA, using exactly the same arguments you're making now.
I'd rather have my taxpayer dollars go back to the actual taxpayers than those bullshit PPP loans the government gave out during COVID. This is less money than that, and gets put to a better purpose.
I've already graduated, and paid for my school, so I don't get anything from this except having a less predatory loan if I ever decide to go back to college.
Hey g0llum im glad your back you faggot.
Remember that time you were on jerry springer or someshit lmao your derp eye 😂 -
2022-08-25 at 2:24 PM UTCah yes Jerry tacho Phil Dr. glum SpringerThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-08-25 at 2:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Steven but you wouldn't know any of that. You just think any spending is bad. Taxes bad. Government never do good thing!
Yeah faggot and you think that anyone having to have any kind of personal responsibility in life is absolutely preposterous. Gib me dat gib me dat! You act like a nigger and should be treated like one accordingly -
2022-08-25 at 2:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra since when?
You have government subsidies that help students.
We have LOANS. The government subsidies we have go directly to the schools and not the students. A lot of this goes to dumb shit like needless televisions everywhere and sports shit.
Any American over the age of like, 40 or so, got to enjoy pretty cheap education, just like you did.
What Australians pay for an entire 4-year degree, some Americans pay yearly. Your government caps the amount education can cost with fee bands. The maximum you will ever pay is like 25k (USD) for an undergraduate degree at a public university (we don't have those, we have community college which have limited options for 4-yr degrees that usually just extend to trades/nursing). There are 22yr olds with over 100k+ USD debt here just from school. The lucky ones are healthy and don't need to see a doctor ever. In some US states, if you get school loans, you actually start to disqualify for things like gov funded healthcare or food stamps, which just puts people in a hole of not wanting to attend in the first place.
There really is no other country in the world that has the kind of predatory loan environment the US does, except maybe China. We have the highest tuition fees in the world. -
2022-08-25 at 2:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Rape Monster Yeah faggot and you think that anyone having to have any kind of personal responsibility in life is absolutely preposterous. Gib me dat gib me dat! You act like a nigger and should be treated like one accordingly
shut the fuck up you're uninteresting. Like a parrot. -
2022-08-25 at 3:31 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-08-25 at 3:34 PM UTC
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2022-08-25 at 3:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by Steven You have government subsidies that help students.
We have LOANS. The government subsidies we have go directly to the schools and not the students. A lot of this goes to dumb shit like needless televisions everywhere and sports shit.
and we shouldn't be spending tax revenue to subsidise nothing-degrees with almost zero chance of return on investment either.
it's kind of beside the point though, because I personally didn't have my 'education paid for by the state' unless you count primary school. what's that called again where you make up things about the person making the argument rather than dealing with the argument itself? -
2022-08-25 at 3:40 PM UTCSteven/§m£ÂgØL Neighbor: "Hey I want a new fence between our properties, it's going to be $10,000..would you please go halves on it?
Steven/§m£ÂgØL: "No, I prefer it open"
Neighbor "Oh well I really want one so I guess I'll finance it myself"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "OK go right ahead"
Said neighbor employs a contractor, signs for financing and goes ahead and gets the fence built.
2yrs later...knock knock
Neighbor "Hey I'm having a really hard time right now what with only making $125k a year...are you sure you don't want to help with my fence payments"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "Yeah I'm sure" /doorslam
6 months later
Knock Knock on §m£ÂgØLs door
US gov: "Here's the bill for your neighbors $10,000 fence, we've absolved him of his personal responsibility and instead are making you the tax payer pay"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "but but...I didn't want a fucking fence he did! he signed the loan agreement for it...why the fuck are you giving me the bill?!?!"
US Gov "Well he's struggling on 125k salary and we feel it's now your responsibility to pay it even though you only make 60k"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "oh right, that sounds fair...do you take a check?"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-08-25 at 4:05 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Steven/§m£ÂgØL Neighbor: "Hey I want a new fence between our properties, it's going to be $10,000..would you please go halves on it?
Steven/§m£ÂgØL: "No, I prefer it open"
Neighbor "Oh well I really want one so I guess I'll finance it myself"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "OK go right ahead"
Said neighbor employs a contractor, signs for financing and goes ahead and gets the fence built.
2yrs later…knock knock
Neighbor "Hey I'm having a really hard time right now what with only making $125k a year…are you sure you don't want to help with my fence payments"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "Yeah I'm sure" /doorslam
6 months later
Knock Knock on §m£ÂgØLs door
US gov: "Here's the bill for your neighbors $10,000 fence, we've absolved him of his personal responsibility and instead are making you the tax payer pay"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "but but…I didn't want a fucking fence he did! he signed the loan agreement for it…why the fuck are you giving me the bill?!?!"
US Gov "Well he's struggling on 125k salary and we feel it's now your responsibility to pay it even though you only make 60k"
Steven/§m£ÂgØL "oh right, that sounds fair…do you take a check?"
thats literally not what happened though, tite-sack. lower youre tone -
2022-08-25 at 4:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor thats literally not what happened though, tite-sack. lower youre tone
Yeah this is what happened.
People signed up for a student loan...they accepted the responsibility to pay it back
They complained about having to pay it back
The gov "FORGAVE" a big chunck of it and passed it on to the TAX PAYER WHO DIDN'T AGREE TO THE LOAN.
..and stop using "literally", it "literally" makes you sound like a liberal zoomer..literally. -
2022-08-25 at 4:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yeah this is what happened.
People signed up for a student loan…they accepted the responsibility to pay it back
They complained about having to pay it back
The gov "FORGAVE" a big chunck of it and passed it on to the TAX PAYER WHO DIDN'T AGREE TO THE LOAN.
..and stop using "literally", it "literally" makes you sound like a liberal zoomer..literally.
thats not even a good explanation of what our president achieved with this, tight-sack
and now youre going to tell me what words i can use, sounds like compelled speech. ayy LOWER YOURE TONE and USE MY PRONOUNS -
2022-08-25 at 4:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor thats not even a good explanation of what our president achieved with this, tight-sack
It's none of the presidents business!...it's the business of the loan giver and the loan applicant...that's it...not the president, not the tax payer...which part are you NOT understanding?? -
2022-08-25 at 4:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson It's none of the presidents business!…it's the business of the loan giver and the loan applicant…that's it…not the president, not the tax payer…which part are you NOT understanding??
its loan Forgiveness. aka - don't harbor hate in your heart, learn to forgive
even private-sector lenders sometimes forgive debts, do you gonna get mad when they do it tooThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-08-25 at 4:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by A College Professor its loan Forgiveness. aka - don't harbor hate in your heart, learn to forgive
even private-sector lenders sometimes forgive debts, do you gonna get mad when they do it too
It's not loan forgiveness if the TAX PAYER has to foot the bill...duh.
A private company can do what the hell they like because it doesn't (usually) get put on the taxpayer...it comes out of THEIR coffers.
