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Military Genius Zelensky wants Ukrainians to throw molotovs at Russian tanks
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2022-03-30 at 10:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by Number13
Third world shithole with a lot of tanks
Second world shithole with a lot of tanks and major support from the West
Russia has been fighting Ukraine for 8 years they definitely know what they were getting in to, who's telling you they aren't doing well? is it supposition? and are their objectives supposition?
War aint quick
What? Is there supposed to be a point here? That Russia might have wanted a stagnated stalemate quagmire with minimal onjecrives attained and long term repercussions? Sure thing, Sun Tzu.
I'm glad you brought up the invasion of Iraq, in that, the US started with targeted airstrikes setting the ground conditions, then moved with regional and international allies in thr north send south, quickly destroying infrastructure and seizing strategic objectives like the basra oil field and kicking the iraqi army out of the north within days. They encountered little resistance alot of the way and only had a few hundred casualties. Comparing, at this point they were about to take Baghdad and victory was certain. Obviously a very different scenario. Russia did a few things right (using Belarus to launch troops but didn't use mpldova/transnistria for some reason, perhaps because the part of Ukraine is borders is prett5 irrelevant) and made attempts to take out bases (bypassing some when encounter resistance), infrastructure and the internet, however they completely failed to adapt to changing conditions (Ukrainians blew all the bridges out so let's just go around and end up in choke points hurr) and left their troops spread super thin.
Anyway, any way you slice it Russia bit off more than they can chew with Ukraine and overplayed their hand. That's just facts, you can debate the finer points but this is obviously not the result Russia wanted -
2022-03-30 at 11:23 AM UTCA free Russian batallion is forming of maybe prisoners of war or who knows to fight russia for ukraine:
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2022-03-30 at 12:09 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-30 at 2:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ The trick is to keep all eyes glued on an event happening on the other side of the planet, while the crooks and traitors destroy your own country here at home. It's working very well, considering the double-digit IQ of the average westerner.
Holy shit. Spectral posted something that isn't retarded.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-30 at 2:24 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13
Third world shithole with a lot of tanks
Second world shithole with a lot of tanks and major support from the West
Russia has been fighting Ukraine for 8 years they definitely know what they were getting in to, who's telling you they aren't doing well? is it supposition? and are their objectives supposition?
War aint quick
Russia is and has been a paper tiger since the end of the 1950s. -
2022-03-30 at 5:54 PM UTC
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2022-03-30 at 6:21 PM UTCPaper MarioThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-30 at 7:18 PM UTC
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2022-03-30 at 7:19 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-30 at 7:56 PM UTC
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2022-03-30 at 7:57 PM UTC
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2022-03-30 at 8:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo What? Is there supposed to be a point here? That Russia might have wanted a stagnated stalemate quagmire with minimal onjecrives attained and long term repercussions? Sure thing, Sun Tzu.
I'm glad you brought up the invasion of Iraq, in that, the US started with targeted airstrikes setting the ground conditions, then moved with regional and international allies in thr north send south, quickly destroying infrastructure and seizing strategic objectives like the basra oil field and kicking the iraqi army out of the north within days. They encountered little resistance alot of the way and only had a few hundred casualties. Comparing, at this point they were about to take Baghdad and victory was certain. Obviously a very different scenario. Russia did a few things right (using Belarus to launch troops but didn't use mpldova/transnistria for some reason, perhaps because the part of Ukraine is borders is prett5 irrelevant) and made attempts to take out bases (bypassing some when encounter resistance), infrastructure and the internet, however they completely failed to adapt to changing conditions (Ukrainians blew all the bridges out so let's just go around and end up in choke points hurr) and left their troops spread super thin.
Anyway, any way you slice it Russia bit off more than they can chew with Ukraine and overplayed their hand. That's just facts, you can debate the finer points but this is obviously not the result Russia wanted
The point was that they're not the same war, iraq didn't have the capability or the support that ukraine does right now and it still took the US a month to take the country, the fact that the US did things right and still took that long is giving credence to my own point.
It's also why I listed Iraq as third world, 1st vs 3rd and took that long when this one is 2nd vs 2nd.
And as I said they knew exactly what they were getting in to, Russia have fought similar wars within recent memory and have had troops fighting ukraine for 8 years, if anything it's going better than they would have expected because the west has been so cucked in it's response.
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny why the total was less than the amount of US troops participating,
I wondered the same, have to assume it's something about active vs support but go ask the wikipedo fags and see -
2022-03-30 at 8:44 PM UTC
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2022-03-30 at 8:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 The point was that they're not the same war, iraq didn't have the capability or the support that ukraine does right now and it still took the US a month to take the country, the fact that the US did things right and still took that long is giving credence to my own point.
It's also why I listed Iraq as third world, 1st vs 3rd and took that long when this one is 2nd vs 2nd.
And as I said they knew exactly what they were getting in to, Russia have fought similar wars within recent memory and have had troops fighting ukraine for 8 years, if anything it's going better than they would have expected because the west has been so cucked in it's response.
I wondered the same, have to assume it's something about active vs support but go ask the wikipedo fags and see
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2022-03-30 at 8:53 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 The point was that they're not the same war, iraq didn't have the capability or the support that ukraine does right now and it still took the US a month to take the country, the fact that the US did things right and still took that long is giving credence to my own point.
It's also why I listed Iraq as third world, 1st vs 3rd and took that long when this one is 2nd vs 2nd.
And as I said they knew exactly what they were getting in to, Russia have fought similar wars within recent memory and have had troops fighting ukraine for 8 years, if anything it's going better than they would have expected because the west has been so cucked in it's response.
I wondered the same, have to assume it's something about active vs support but go ask the wikipedo fags and see
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2022-03-30 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 The point was that they're not the same war, iraq didn't have the capability or the support that ukraine does right now and it still took the US a month to take the country, the fact that the US did things right and still took that long is giving credence to my own point.
It's also why I listed Iraq as third world, 1st vs 3rd and took that long when this one is 2nd vs 2nd.
And as I said they knew exactly what they were getting in to, Russia have fought similar wars within recent memory and have had troops fighting ukraine for 8 years, if anything it's going better than they would have expected because the west has been so cucked in it's response.
I wondered the same, have to assume it's something about active vs support but go ask the wikipedo fags and see
What? There's still no discernible point here or evidence that Russia isn't stalled and bogged down (for 3 weeks) so it's pretty clear you're just trying to be contrarian and edgy. Whatever gets you off, kid but there is no reality where the tepid progress at a very high cost has been what Russia was hoping for. Sorry reality contradicts the edgy narrative you want to substituteThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-30 at 10:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo What? There's still no discernible point here or evidence that Russia isn't stalled and bogged down (for 3 weeks) so it's pretty clear you're just trying to be contrarian and edgy. Whatever gets you off, kid but there is no reality where the tepid progress at a very high cost has been what Russia was hoping for. Sorry reality contradicts the edgy narrative you want to substitute
If you're not seeing the point you're barely more than a retard, russia is attacking a well supported equal size force to what the americans were with less troops themselves, try some basic mathematics and read some military history.
And what high cost? the numbers put out by US intel or ukraine? you know the biased ones? in fact not even all of the western media agrees on a number and many are close to what russia themselves have been saying, right up to state affiliated media like the bbc.
If you're taking a single one of those at face value then you're helpless. -
2022-03-30 at 11:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 If you're not seeing the point you're barely more than a retard, russia is attacking a well supported equal size force to what the americans were with less troops themselves, try some basic mathematics and read some military history.
And what high cost? the numbers put out by US intel or ukraine? you know the biased ones? in fact not even all of the western media agrees on a number and many are close to what russia themselves have been saying, right up to state affiliated media like the bbc.
If you're taking a single one of those at face value then you're helpless.
If you knew anything you would know that numbers mean very little compared to training, morale, and where you are fighting.
Oh and that other thing...
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2022-03-30 at 11:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker If you knew anything you would know that numbers mean very little compared to training, morale, and where you are fighting.
If you knew anything about the current conflict you'd know that numbers are the deciding factor, similar if not identical training descended from the same schools, well familiar ground considering it's previously held territory and right on their border, and with many legitimate can point to objectives vs defending their land(many of which just want to flee)
Are you intentionally being obtuse?
