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World to hit temperature tipping point 10 years faster than forecast
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2021-12-17 at 7:51 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker I live in Arizona and all the global warming caused my well to freeze last night. I had to wait about two hours for the global warming to stop this morning before I had water.
So the understanding is that even during Global Warming, it still snows and causes freezing in areas sometimes that don't normally get it.
However the over all Cold periods in the arctics aren;t lasting long enough nor cold enough and the iceburgs are melting. Polar bears are drowning trying to hunt seals because they have to swim farther. and also they have notice the Polar bears are turning brown in many areas. their camo or winter fur doesn't last as long.
but then again, it may not be Man's fault. we might be adding to it, but it's already just Nature going through a cycle of change it has shown in history. even if there are no written records of it going farther back then 900 years, the sediments in soil have proven there were lush green forest from roots and type of clay. it swings back and forth. maybe it's a pole shift and suddenly the Saharan Desert is lush and green with fruit springing up, and the US become the new North Pole and Arctic while say India Becomes the South Pole and the Ant-Arctic becomes lush a green with in 50-100 years. -
2021-12-17 at 7:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready There is a heaven. however it doesn't exist yet because it will be destroyed with the Earth and a new one will await us.
sounds to me like the Earth goes through cycles if a new Earth is formed.
Hell may not be a place of fire but rather a cold place that Godless souls go to and tormented by Satan and his minions for eternity.
I guess will all find out one way or the other.
Sounds like Hebrew bullshit.
Satan is the lie, a lie to draw in those who would be taken by it.
The đ already has everything we need, and human garbage spends it's Time destroying it.
And The Cold is a blessing, it forces you to adapt, to plan, to work together. It preserves. -
2021-12-17 at 8:17 PM UTCEarth is a temporary place.
Even Natives of the America realize there is a creator. that is God. created all things of this universe and others.
We shouldn't worship the Earth but we were told to take care of her. So many Christians are hypocrites.
I don't think much of the Bible (Hebrew or new testament) are literal writings. Jesus spoke in Parables very often. I just roll with it. It's called faith. any Christian who attacked Native Americans were not being Christian. it's just that simple.
War is war. people will do whatever they have to, to preserve and protect their family. So it's sad Whites and Native Americans fought. and then you got them fuckers who decided to kill off all the Bison so starve out or force out Natives while bringing in European cattle.
But then again, most people love to eat Beef. I like the combination of Beef and Bison called Beefalo. Ever had it? it's pretty good. -
2021-12-17 at 8:41 PM UTCTemporary in the sense that we're all doomed to be here, but for a while.
people take that as "it must be a disposable" and treat it like a diaper. Shit on it and toss it.
I love nature but worship Lord Shiva, He blesses me everyday. And brings peace when I need it.
If I must steal, he'll bless me still, if I must destroy, he blesses me still, if I must meditate he smiles upon me and calms my heart.
Fuck Hebrew bullshit. It's all lies and unnatural as fuck. War is war, but only Christians would wage it in such an unenlightened manner. In a way that has no spiritual or material grounding. War made only to consume without the guiding hand of spiritual insights. Just a book that promotes, greed, malice and hate. While blinding fools into thinking they are righteous.
And yes, I've had buffalo. It's tasty. Beefalo? I dunno. Now I want some drymeat and lard. Barley stew with rabbit would be nice too.
If the Bible is a metaphor, it's a shit one. What small contact I've had if the Vedas is much better, and rings true. Every mythology is better than the jedi plague that's overrun us all. -
2021-12-17 at 10:54 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe When you do comparative math in regards to building a renewable power grid you realize just how utterly insane the world we live in is right now. Any time the subject of switching to a renewable energy grid comes up the answer is ALWAYS "but its so expensive! Who will pay for it?"
Lets look at some of the things that, apparently, are NOT too expensive to pay for.
The most recent James Bond movie cost a total of $900M. Yes that is correct, 900 fucking million dollars!
https://movieweb.com/no-time-to-die-most-expensive-james-bond/
LEts compare that to the largest solar energy plant ever built in the US
It powers 80,000 homes with clean energy.
Cost for this plant? A paltry $141M. In other words for the cost of a James Bond movie we could build 6 of these things. SIX!
That enough to power 500,000 homes with clean renewable energy. But instead of building one of these every 6 months, we instead spend that money on James fucking Bond films.
Now lets talk casinos. The Wynn casino in Vegas cost $2.7 Billion, with a "B".
https://casino.partycasino.com/en/blog/the-most-expensive-casino-buildings/
This is a monstrosity that has no right to exist at all, in the middle of the desert while the fresh water is disappearing. But somehow this asshole was able to snap his fingers and make $2.7B appear out of thin air for a shitty casino that does nothing but rip people off.
For that same price we could have built the equivalent of 19 copper mountain solar plant. Nineteen! That is enough to power 1.5 million homes! That is the size of the city of Philedelphia.
So we have plenty of money for movies and casinos but large scale solar renewable power plants? I guess we can only afford one of those a decade or so.
The point I am makin is that renewable energy is CHEAP. Its crazy inexpensive AND on top of that it staves off climate disaster, thus saving us all trillions of dollars. Its an absolute no brainer that we build a Copper Mountain every 3 months or so. But we still are not building out our renewable infrastructure.
Its flat out insane. There is really no other word for it.
tell us how many acres of forests would have to be deforested to make room for these solar panels and battery storages.
how much more would have to be cleared to mine the lithium and other minerals needed in solar panels. -
2021-12-17 at 11:03 PM UTC
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2021-12-17 at 11:51 PM UTCIt's ridiculous that there's going to be a monopoly on solar energy with only certain companies you're allowed to sell your sun power to. I can never understand why most conservatives and libertarians aren't more enthusiastic about green energy. Probably because they didn't like the people who told them to be
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2021-12-18 at 12:40 AM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2022-03-02 at 4:25 PM UTChttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60525591
Many of the impacts of global warming are now simply "irreversible" according to the UN's latest assessment.
The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says that humans and nature are being pushed beyond their abilities to adapt,
Over 40% of the world's population are "highly vulnerable" to climate, the sombre study finds.
But there's hope that if the rise in temperatures is kept below 1.5 C, it would reduce projected losses.
Just four months on from COP26, where world leaders committed themselves to rapid action on climate change, this new UN study shows the scale of their task.
"Our report clearly indicates that places where people live and work may cease to exist, that ecosystems and species that we've all grown up with and that are central to our cultures and inform our languages may disappear," said Prof Debra Roberts, co-chair of the IPCC.
"So this is really a key moment. Our report points out very clearly, this is the decade of action, if we are going to turn things around."
This report from the IPCC is the second of three reviews from the world's foremost body of climate researchers.
Last August, the first installment highlighted the scale of the effect that humans were having on the climate system.
This new report looks at the causes, impacts and solutions to climate change. It gives the clearest indication to date of how a warmer world is affecting all the living things on Earth.
The report is a stark account of the fierce consequences that the world is already experiencing, like growing numbers of people dying from heat.
But the authors say that there is still a brief window of time to avoid the very worst.
"One of the things that I think is really, really clear in the report is that yes, things are bad, but actually, the future depends on us, not the climate," said Dr Helen Adams, a lead author on the report from King's College, London.
The report shows that extreme weather events linked to climate change like floods and heatwaves are hitting humans and other species much harder than previous assessments indicated.
The new study says that these impacts are already going beyond the ability of many people to cope.
While everyone is affected, some are being hit much harder. This outcome very much depends on where you live.
Between 2010 and 2020, 15 times more people died from floods, droughts and storms in very vulnerable regions including parts of Africa, South Asia and Central and South America, than in other parts of the world.
Nature is already seeing dramatic impacts at the current level of warming.
Coral reefs are being bleached and dying from rising temperatures, while many trees are succumbing to drought.
The report highlights the increasing impacts that are expected as the rise in global temperatures, currently around 1.1C, heads to 1.5C.
Continued and accelerating sea level rise will increasingly hit coastal settlements pushing them towards "submergence and loss".
Under all emissions scenarios, the IPCC expects a billion more people to be at risk from coastal specific climate hazards in the next few decades.
If temperatures rise to between 1.7 and 1.8C above the 1850s level, then the report states that half the human population could be exposed to periods of life-threatening climatic conditions arising from heat and humidity.
Commenting on the summary, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres described it as an "atlas of human suffering". He has no doubt as to where the blame lies.
"The facts are undeniable. This abdication of leadership is criminal. The world's biggest polluters are guilty of arson of our only home."
Diseases will likely spread more quickly in the coming decades, say the study's authors.
There is a particular risk that changing climactic conditions will ease the spread of mosquito-borne dengue fever to billions more by the end of this century.
As well as the physical health impacts, this report, for the first time, states that climate change may be exacerbating mental health issues, including stress and trauma related to extreme weather events and the loss of livelihoods and culture.
Some researchers have speculated that going over 1.5C for a short period would be acceptable if temperatures came back down below the level soon afterwards.
This report says there are dangers with this approach.
"In any overshoot there's an increasing risk of hitting tipping points and triggering feedback, in the climate system, like permafrost thawing," said Linda Schneider from the Heinrich Boll Institute, who was an observer at the IPCC discussions.
"That would make it a lot more difficult, it could make it impossible to get back below 1.5C."
The report is disdainful of technological fixes like deflecting the Sun's rays or removing carbon dioxide from the air, saying they could make things worse.
The summary for policymakers puts much focus on "climate resilient development," which it says helps build the strength to cope with climate change in every society.
"If our development pathways are ones in which health systems don't improve much, education doesn't improve much, our economies aren't growing very fast and inequality remains a big problem, that's a world where a particular amount of climate change is going to have a really big impact," said Prof Brian O'Neill, an IPCC coordinating lead author from the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in the US.
"In contrast, if it's a world where we are really making rapid progress on education and health and poverty, if climate change is imposed on that society, the risk will be much lower."
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/28/ipcc-issues-bleakest-warning-yet-impacts-climate-breakdown
Interestingly, of report's key takeaways, close to half intersect with the other unmentioned planetary emergency: biodiversity and ecosystem loss. I guess IPCC doesn't want to share the spotlight with IPBES?
-Everywhere is affected, with no inhabited region escaping dire impacts from rising temperatures and increasingly extreme weather.
-About half the global population â between 3.3 billion and 3.6 billion people â live in areas âhighly vulnerableâ to climate change.
-Millions of people face food and water shortages owing to climate change, even at current levels of heating.
-Mass die-offs of species, from trees to corals, are already under way.
-1.5C above pre-industrial levels constitutes a âcritical levelâ beyond which the impacts of the climate crisis accelerate strongly and some become irreversible.
-Coastal areas around the globe, and small, low-lying islands, face inundation at temperature rises of more than 1.5C.
-Key ecosystems are losing their ability to absorb carbon dioxide, turning them from carbon sinks to carbon sources.
-Some countries have agreed to conserve 30% of the Earthâs land, but conserving half may be necessary to restore the ability of natural ecosystems to cope with the damage wreaked on them
âThe scientific evidence is unequivocal: climate change is a threat to human wellbeing and the health of the planet.â
âAny further delay in concerted global action will miss a brief and rapidly closing window to secure a liveable future.â
About half the global population â between 3.3 billion and 3.6 billion
people â live in areas âhighly vulnerableâ to climate change.
It seems every time a new report is published, the situation have gotten even worse than what was predicted in the previous. And this time around the report says that: "The question at this point is not whether we can altogether avoid the crisis â it is whether we can avoid the worst consequences."
But don't focus too much on this, there is a war going on that you should focus on instead, and how nobody wants to work any more, and fight your neighbors over wearing a mask, and hold the line for the truckers! *honk honk* -
2022-03-02 at 4:40 PM UTC1.6°C (3°F) increase on land in 2020 alone
(at around 12:30)
NOAA report showing same. First line under "JanuaryâDecember Ranks and Records".
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/202013
Link to download IPCC report PDF showing same (Page 26).
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Chapter_02.pdf
The fossil fuel industry knew this would happen as early as 1958
https://www.desmog.com/2021/10/29/dirty-dozen-documents-big-oil-secret-climate-knowledge-part-1/
Yet we have Forbes reminding the investors that there's still money to be made in Oil;
https://www.reddit.com/r/News_OilAndEnergy/comments/srjwc8/we_can_still_earn_big_dividends_from_big_oil/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
"the fleet would start with eight planes in the first year and rise to just under 100 within 15 years. In year one, there would be 4,000 missions, increasing to just over 60,000 per year by year 15. As you can see, this would need to be a sustained and escalating effort."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/geoengineering-treatment-stratospheric-aerosol-injection-climate-change-study-today-2018-11-23/
Brimstone Angel
https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.2020-0618
Adding note; Biden is part of a international effort to keep airlines at 80%. Those "Ghost Flights" have nothing to do with keeping slots and everything to do with keeping the planet artificially cool.
DON'T FORGET much of the day's news is part of the smoke screen to keep as many as possible from seeing this today: https://www.vox.com/2022/2/23/22937517/supreme-court-epa-west-virginia-clean-power-plan-climate-change
ALL on the same day China and their US counterparts agree on a new Belt & Road initiative for the USA! -
2022-03-02 at 4:46 PM UTCAn entire White House meeting on Climate Misinformation edited down to this horrendous press release: https://www.whitehouse.gov/ostp/news-updates/2022/02/25/readout-of-white-house-climate-science-roundtable-on-countering-delayism-and-communicating-the-urgency-of-climate-action/
All a crock of manipulative bullshit.
Michael Mann, Professor of Atmospheric Science & Director of Earth System Science Center, Pennsylvania State University
âWe really are moving away from hard denial. Itâs very difficult to deny things that people can see with their own eyes. And so weâve seen this transition from denial to division, deflection, distraction, delay, and quite important â doom-mongering. We can create a much better world if we act now. There is urgency but there is also agency.â
He's saying that their psyop efforts cannot contain the denial narrative any-longer. Everyone watch out for that "Doom-Mongering" er TRUTH we should be hearing.
Here's my favorite and the last one (of course);
Jigar Shah, Director, U.S. Department of Energy Loan Programs Office
âWe have at our disposal most of the tools and resources we need to meet the Administrationâs bold climate agenda while creating good jobs through an equitable energy transition. Doing this will require a laser focus on using those resources and tools to maximize private sector capital formation â both supply and demand. In short, we need to a strong focus on government program execution with the specific goal of private sector capital formation.â
Ahhhhhhh. Handing the fossil fuel industry some $19 trillion dollars and expecting everything to be cool is really not the way we should be handling ecosphere collapse. WTF guys? Is there anyone that's not an industry shill thinking that solar panels and a new elecric car are going to save anyone?!
And today .... killing off the only thing that kept a little of this crazy bottled-up, is gone. The EPA was never very effective honestly, Nixon made sure of that, but did you really have to kill it today? While everyone is looking the other way?
Must be doing some truly evil shit to have to remove the EPA's ability to limit CO2.
Making silicon waffers and batteries at insane levels? Flying more empty planes? Why not just light the fuel at the source if it's all going to be fucking wasted anyway? -
2022-03-02 at 4:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe âWe really are moving away from hard denial. Itâs very difficult to deny things that people can see with their own eyes.
Well there's the argument that global warming is naturally occurring vs man made...oceans rising and ice caps melting doesn't mean it's due to humans...There's a huge thing at the center of our solar system that has something to do with it...not to mention several hundred other naturally occurring factors. -
2022-03-02 at 5:02 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Well there's the argument that global warming is naturally occurring vs man made…oceans rising and ice caps melting doesn't mean it's due to humans…There's a huge thing at the center of our solar system that has something to do with it…not to mention several hundred other naturally occurring factors.
Originally posted by Obbe Denial occurs after we have taken in information and consciously reject it to avoid an uncomfortable truth. William Catton termed this behavior âostrichismâ or the strategy of sticking your head in the figurative sand and expecting an issue to go away or persistent belief nothing will change and refusal to face facts.
"It is a statement of fact, we cannot be any more certain; it is unequivocal and indisputable that humans are warming the planet."
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-58130705
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Full_Report.pdf
https://us.cnn.com/2021/08/08/world/climate-warning-alok-sharma-cop26-ipcc-intl/index.html
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2022-03-02 at 5:04 PM UTC
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2022-03-02 at 5:06 PM UTC
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2022-03-02 at 5:13 PM UTCIt's just fine. It's a real issue but just leave it for the next generations to work on. We got enough to worry about it as it is (well some of us do. I personally don't) so just stop stressin'.
The key to life is to leave the long-term issues to people down the line to figure out. This is also why you don't have kids so then you don't have to worry about them. If you do, that's fine, but try to make sure that they don't have any. You have to realize that your anything beyond maybe your great-grandkids are likely never even gonna know your name save for some random curiosity and research they might look into for a few days of their life, find it mildly interesting, and move on.
What I'm saying is we don't really need to care as much about the future generations as the kids will do that for us. We need to just move to Jamaica, smoke our doobies and relax, MON.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-02 at 5:16 PM UTCLife will flourish without humans...just as it did before humans were around. The warming of the Earth is good for life as a whole...just not for humans.
It's reasonable that we all perish due to the fact we only destroy rather than contribute to the balance of life on Earth.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2022-03-02 at 5:23 PM UTCGreedy and careless corporations cause this, but they go after the people for solutions. Go figure.
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2022-03-02 at 5:30 PM UTCI blame those farty Friesians
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2022-03-02 at 5:32 PM UTCVegan's and vegetarians are to blame too, if they ate more cows there would be less farting.
