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Lanny stop giving out my IP or stop
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2021-12-29 at 6:11 AM UTC
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2021-12-29 at 11:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra also what you're talking about is leased IPs, they're dynamic but they typically change on a schedule (often a week or so from what I've seen) rather than renewing on reconnect
guess you missed the entire reason for this thread... you know to stop a ddos attack... hence why you would want to change your ip right away..
sure lets all just wait a week for the ip to change because thats how often the ISP sets the schedule for and sit offline during a ddos attack.. smh your comprehension skills are lacking tenfold. -
2021-12-29 at 12 PM UTCif it's leased you can't force it to release like that, it has to actually be removed from the table at the ISP
there is no point to this thread, OP is insane, he sent me a rambling message earlier accusing me of being a fed intel contractor
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2021-12-29 at 12:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra if it's leased you can't force it to release like that, it has to actually be removed from the table at the ISP
there is no point to this thread, OP is insane, he sent me a rambling message earlier accusing me of being a fed intel contractor
again
then how about stop trying to argue with facts. go get yourself version fios. log into your gateway and click the button that says release then hit the button that says re-new...
stop being oppressed and naive. you sound so stupid right now trying to argue with factual statements. -
2021-12-29 at 12:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by maddie then how about stop trying to argue with facts. go get yourself version fios. log into your gateway and click the button that says release then hit the button that says re-new…
stop being oppressed and naive. you sound so stupid right now trying to argue with factual statements.
I have no idea about specific ISP policies, especially in other countries. What I'm saying is that in my experience, ISPs that give out leased IPs will only cycle them on a schedule and reconnecting or sending DHCP release/renews doesn't do anything because the tables are protected. You can probably contact them and ask for a new one but that's outside the point -
2021-12-29 at 12:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I have no idea about specific ISP policies, especially in other countries. What I'm saying is that in my experience, ISPs that give out leased IPs will only cycle them on a schedule and reconnecting or sending DHCP release/renews doesn't do anything because the tables are protected. You can probably contact them and ask for a new one but that's outside the point
exactly my point.
you try to argue globally based on your own regional situational experiences. Life doesnt work that way.
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2021-12-29 at 12:19 PM UTCI didn't even say that it was 100% the case, I just pointed out that leases weren't the same thing as dynamic and you got all wound up
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2021-12-29 at 12:29 PM UTC
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2021-12-29 at 12:32 PM UTCfair enough I guess, I try to keep that to the less serious topics
you're probably not wrong though, at the ISP's end it's probably exactly a DHCP lease so it'd be up to them to choose whether they let a client drop it. I've just dealt with a LOT of ISPs here and they all seem to operate the same way -
2021-12-29 at 12:33 PM UTCalso I'm sick of trying to respond to OP seriously only for him to shift every conversation to Jeff Hunter Did 9/11 or I'm actually a FIVE EYES bot designed to mess with his sanity or something
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2021-12-29 at 12:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra fair enough I guess, I try to keep that to the less serious topics
you're probably not wrong though, at the ISP's end it's probably exactly a DHCP lease so it'd be up to them to choose whether they let a client drop it. I've just dealt with a LOT of ISPs here and they all seem to operate the same way
yes here. for example. comcast you cannot release your IP no matter what you do, you will always get it back until they decide.. but on the other hand version fios, you can change your ip multiple times a day if you wanted to by either unplugging the gateway. or just clicking the built in release ip/ renew ip button options.. but is is possible with some ISP companies to change your IP whenever you feel fit to. -
2021-12-29 at 3:18 PM UTC
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2021-12-29 at 3:37 PM UTC*Kroz laugh*
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2021-12-29 at 5:01 PM UTC
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2021-12-29 at 5:13 PM UTC
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2021-12-29 at 5:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra also I'm sick of trying to respond to OP seriously only for him to shift every conversation to Jeff Hunter Did 9/11 or I'm actually a FIVE EYES bot designed to mess with his sanity or something
It is beyond our control, the good thing is that if he has a question that's interesting and you have an interesting answer if it's lost on him everyone else will still be able to get something out of it. So it's not entirely in vain. -
2021-12-29 at 11:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra if it's leased you can't force it to release like that, it has to actually be removed from the table at the ISP
there is no point to this thread, OP is insane, he sent me a rambling message earlier accusing me of being a fed intel contractor
again
Maybe that's just how you wanted to read into it.
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2021-12-29 at 11:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie It is beyond our control, the good thing is that if he has a question that's interesting and you have an interesting answer if it's lost on him everyone else will still be able to get something out of it. So it's not entirely in vain.
It's not "lost on me"
It's Post Hoc. The first reasoning he gave had failed so he Adhocs a new. -
2021-12-30 at 3:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Do you mean gateway in the technical sense, because there's going to be at least two gateways between any two end points on the internet right? Unless i guess it's the gateways themselves talking to each other. Also big intranet is going to be different cause you use gateways to cordon off sections of the internal network, for security purposes.
Yeah, in a strictly technical sense the ISP runs a gateway of course, likely several, but I meant more that carriers do stuff like transparent caching, and I would guess they do something similar to how a home router works. So with the home router there’s one “public” IP address that the router holds. With port forwarding hosts connected to the router can be externally discoverable but no two devices behind that router can listen for connections on the same port, although many can open client connections to an external host on the same port (e.g. you get one external service on port 80 from your home network, but many hosts within that network can access cnn.com:80)
So like if you use your phone’s connection to run a service I don’t think that service is going to be externally accessible even though the phone does appear to have an external address. -
2021-12-30 at 4:10 AM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny Yeah, in a strictly technical sense the ISP runs a gateway of course, likely several, but I meant more that carriers do stuff like transparent caching, and I would guess they do something similar to how a home router works. So with the home router there’s one “public” IP address that the router holds. With port forwarding hosts connected to the router can be externally discoverable but no two devices behind that router can listen for connections on the same port, although many can open client connections to an external host on the same port (e.g. you get one external service on port 80 from your home network, but many hosts within that network can access cnn.com:80)
Right that makes sense. And to that i say Protocol Demultiplexer.So like if you use your phone’s connection to run a service I don’t think that service is going to be externally accessible even though the phone does appear to have an external address.
If i understand correctly the service wouldn't be reachable when running 4/5g? Then how is it that i can use my phone's connection and tether my box, so that my box runs on the phone's connection and still run a reachable service? Also, a Hidden Service as in an onyo can be run from a phone that only has 5g on.
