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  1. #81
    Originally posted by Kev potential life is abstract which means without substance

    It's no longer potential, when the decision has already been made.
  2. #82
    ITT: we gang up on HTS-n00b's Bill Gates-ish notions
  3. #83
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by Donald Trump Why not?

    You place a lot of much significance on your own survival instinct and desire to avoid suffering, but in reality neither of those things matters to anyone else. So why does it matter to you?

    Survival instinct is just as meaningful as reproductive instinct, the only difference is survival instinct only pertains to me whereas people's reproductive instinct pertains not just to themselves, but also to the new fucking life they're creating without consent. smh

  4. #84
    Kev Space Nigga
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ It's no longer potential, when the decision has already been made.

    you would have a point if the conception happened, but before it does, the life is potential, not real.
  5. #85
    Originally posted by Kev you would have a point if the conception happened, but before it does, the life is potential, not real.

    Did you know that in ancient Hebrew times, it was a sin to withhold your seed from your wives?
  6. #86
    netstat African Astronaut
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  7. #87
    Kev Space Nigga
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Did you know that in ancient Hebrew times, it was a sin to withhold your seed from your wives?

    probably, which makes it all that retarded.

    every time i rub one out, i have murdered a potential life?
    im pro life and all but that is just batshit territory
  8. #88
    the man who put it in my hood Black Hole [miraculously counterclaim my golf]
    Originally posted by Quick Mix Ready When I was 14 my brothers 23 year old shagged me

    But I was hell of into it. and my other brother and his friend saw her coming out of my bedroom putting her top on with me and the blanket wrapped around me walking her to the door. I got high fives in 1980 for that.

    Do you think that is rape as well? I don't. it's different with men or young men. it's known that jedi fathers will take their sons at age 13 to a hooker just after their bar mitzvah. usually a goy hooker cause it's OK to them.

    u got raped by ur bro? fag
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  9. #89
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by netstat HTS is unironically the most philosophically lucid nigga here

    im like the opposite of lucid i have no idea what the fuck im talking about where am i
  10. #90
    Originally posted by Kev every time i rub one out, i have murdered a potential life?

    You're a mass murderer?
  11. #91
    Kev Space Nigga
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ You're a mass murderer?

    you tell me, am i?
  12. #92
    Originally posted by Kev you tell me, am i?

    You could very well be.
  13. #93
    I am the world that hides
    The universal secret of all time
    Destruction of the empty spaces is my one and only crime
    I've lived a thousand times
    I found out what it means to be believed
    The thoughts and images - the unborn child that never was conceived

    When little worlds collide
    I'm trapped inside my embryonic cell
    And flashing memories are cast into the never-ending well
    The name that scorns the face
    The child that never sees the cause of man
    The deathly darkness that belies the fate of those who never ran


    You gotta believe, yeah
    I'm talking to you
    Well, I know it's hard for you to know the reason why
    And I know you'll understand more when it's your time to die

    Don't believe the life you have will be the only one
    You have to let your body sleep to let your soul live on
    I want you to listen
    I'm trying to get through

    Love has given life to you
    And now it's your concern
    Unseen Eye of inner life
    Will make your soul return

    Still, I look, but not to touch
    The seeds of life are sown
    Curtain of the future falls
    The secret stays unknown

    Just remember love is life
    And hate is living death
    Treat your life for what it's worth
    And live for every breath

    Looking back, I've lived and learned
    But, now, I'm wondering
    Here, I wait, and only guess
    What this next life will bring, haha!
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  14. #94
    Sudo Black Hole [my hereto riemannian peach]
    If you could see my face rn you would never fucking want to have kids
  15. #95
    Kev Space Nigga
    Originally posted by ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ You could very well be.

    lol youre an idiot
  16. #96
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by Meikai There's a necessary relation - you don't get the billion dollars if you don't get stabbed in the asshole. It is a transaction.

    The relation exists by fiat, because you set those conditions for receiving compensation. That makes you the psychopath because you could as easily improve someone else's condition without any need for asshole stabbing. Unlike children, where there's just no way to make a kid without them having to endure some level of negative utility. I'm sure if parents had some way to have children such that they'd never have to suffer most parents would elect to do that, but they don't, so it becomes _necessary_ to hazard suffering for a life worth living. It is not necessary to stab someone in the asshole in order to give them a billion dollars.

    If it's a bad analogy, it's a bad analogy because childbirth is possibly the only example of an act of cruelty which can be completely sublimed and washed clean from one's slate. Bad things have infinite value in all other transactions. For every other act of cruelty, every other negativity we inflict upon another, there is no amount of good which society accepts as completely absolving one of that cruelty. Steal a stick of gum and donate a billion dollars to charity? You still stole that gum.

    Wrong. Again, see medical interventions that carry risk of injury, you may injure someone but if it's actually necessary in order to deliver the intervention then we consider it permissible. What's not OK is saving someone's life and then hacking off a limb because hey, losing a limb is better than dying. The difference is whether or not you have agency in dealing the injury in the process of perusing that person's welfare.

    Further, re: the gum case, there's a difference between legal systems and moral judgements. Yes the legal system will (or at least should, by its own principles) prosecute petty theft carried out by large scale philanthropists, not because it passes judgement on the total moral person of the philanthropist, but because uniformity of prosecution is necessary to the penal system being an effective deterrent to crime. Many people would agree that, be it via utility calculus or the tally of St. Peter, significant acts of good do ameliorate wrongdoing to some extent. There are other cases, e.g. theft of food to feed one's family, where nearly everyone would agree the outcome (family not starving) softens the severity of the crime. And again, agreement is broader there exactly because in such cases theft may be necessary to sustaining ones family.


    Create a being so it can suffer immeasurably and also possibly experience all the joys of life? WELL, you see, the joys of life completely justify whatever happens. If even 1% of that child's life is happy, it doesn't matter if you birthed a soul who will get nuggetized and raped for 40 years before having their throat slit.

    Who is this directed at? I agreed with you a post or two ago that many lives are not worth living. There absolutely is a level of suffering at which point the potential rewards of life are simply not commensurate. The idea of yours I take issue with is that _any_ amount of suffering makes a life not worth living, or indicts parents as a category.
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  17. #97
    Lanny Bird of Courage
    Originally posted by netstat HTS is unironically the most philosophically lucid nigga here

    She typed "sublimed" instead of "sublimated". Opinion discarded.

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  18. #98
    netstat African Astronaut
    The author of this post has returned to nothingness
  19. #99
    I'm still waiting for the baby Lanny.
  20. It’s not happening
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