2021-10-31 at 1:14 PM UTC
I don’t picture an actual civil war, so what will it look like? Just rogue people going out and shooting government officials?
Then what? I just picture them going to jail🤷♀️
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2021-10-31 at 1:17 PM UTC
Will we hit some sort of rock bottom? Is there a way to find a common ground?
Maybe if some country pulls a “9/11 similar event”, we will come together again🤷♀️
2021-10-31 at 1:20 PM UTC
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it's too volatile to make any reliable predictions, but I suspect economic failure will be the major turning point.
the current world economic order stops functioning, domestic supply chains break, people start to starve, the state uses the military to come down hard and ration what's left, people fight it in large numbers to keep what they have
whatever the catalyst is, current political and economic systems are a delicate equilibrium. once something upsets it just enough, things will get very bad very fast
2021-10-31 at 1:22 PM UTC
Logistically how does economic failure come about?
2021-10-31 at 1:27 PM UTC
This is definitely one thing you were right about Aldra, there’ll be some sort of civil unrest. When you predicted a civil war here, I envisioned 1861. I’m sure it will look a lot different, but there’s gonna be problems I’m sure.
2021-10-31 at 1:40 PM UTC
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I'm not an economist (I have a hard time understanding a lot of it) so I'm not going to pretend I can get into specifics, but a few notes:
1. Keeping the USD as the world's only reserve currency allows it an extraordinary set of advantages, such as being able to leverage its own debt for growth and to effectively control the rate of development of competitors through sanctions, exchange rates and energy (oil) costs. More and more states, specifically those not considered allies of the 'west' are opting to trade in their own currencies or alternatives like the Yuan
2. The financial crisis of 2008 was never actually solved; their (not just the US, but the EU and most other countries) 'solution' was Quantitive Easing which is quite literally just printing money and tampering with interest rates, which effectively just borrows value from the future. We've come to the point where we need to add exponentially more money to the pool to keep systems running, which is why we're seeing even mainstream media start to worry about hyperinflation.
I wrote some stuff about the FIRE sector, rampant speculation and how much of the economy is tied up in things that are effectively just stores of value for the purpose of laundering but I'm not sure how much of it was relevant outside of Australia
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2021-10-31 at 1:44 PM UTC
>how will this end
>end
What a grand and intoxicating innocence. How could you be so naive? There is no escape. No Recall or Intervention can work in this place.
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2021-10-31 at 1:46 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Technologist
This is definitely one thing you were right about Aldra, there’ll be some sort of civil unrest. When you predicted a civil war here, I envisioned 1861. I’m sure it will look a lot different, but there’s gonna be problems I’m sure.
If there's some sort of civil war before or instead of economic collapse, I think the most likely cause will be some states (probably Republican strongholds considering they're most at-odds with the Federal Government) openly disobeying federal law.
There probably won't be any official secession, but it'll get to the point where the Federal Government sends soldiers or a paramilitary agency in a show of force and some level of conflict will erupt from there. Some states will send support, others will side with the feds
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2021-10-31 at 1:47 PM UTC
As usual Aldra I'm being your typical American, and only considering how things will be affected here. You’ve got the global perspective.
I wonder how upheaval will look to the everyday person?
2021-10-31 at 1:50 PM UTC
In all seriousness though, either it goes full 1776 (yes, America, that was a civil war) or it just... persists and mutates. I know which of those two I'd prefer, but I suspect it'll end with Elon Musk installing brain chips in all the kids and taking over the world and/or corporations gaining sovereignty/corporate extraterritoriality and everyone becoming subservient neon-colored cyberserfs laboring under brutal tech CEO leiges and professional managerial class burghers.
The very fabric of reality itself is crying out for a great leader. A conqueror who will gather the disaffected incels and chad trad preppers into a magnificent fighting force, to forge a new nation with a new destiny to manifest. Our NEET Rudolf von Goldenbaum will arise, and wielding the equivalent of a small nation's economy (in the form of diligently mined and hodl'd shitcoins/NFTs of rat anuses) he will lead the revolution. If I don't see the foundation of a new imperial dynasty within my lifetime, I will be shocked and disappointed.
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