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2021-10-27 at 3:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra don't be a nigger.
negligence and manslaughter maybe (compounded by drugs and a heart condition), but there was never any evidence of intent and as far as I know there was never even any presented.
never mind how badly the jurors were tainted and the fact that the restraining technique is used in plenty of other countries with no fatalities
***anybody else who's been convicted of murder for less shouldn't have been either, it just means the system is a joke
Negligence and manslaughter sure, IIRC he was convicted of 2nd degree murder too which is kind of a stretch but I imagine charging him with that was strategic (hope for a plea deal, chance to bargain, also in my country at least a murder charge requires a jury trial where manslaughter can be decided by judge alone) and there is also what in my country is called "the knieapple principal" which dismisses redundant charges which were clearly in his case.
The most important question is, "who cares?" Who cares that a pig who killed a guy on video might have been convicted of a higher moral culpability than he had at the time? I guess contrarian cucks who like defending people who don't need defending. It's not really important to me if a pig was convicted of a crime it certainly looked like he committed but clear intent might not have been proven. This shit happens everyday
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2021-10-27 at 3:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo The most important question is, "who cares?" Who cares that a pig who killed a guy on video might have been convicted of a higher moral culpability than he had at the time?
Everyone should care, the breakdown of the basic "beyond reasonable doubt" thing could affect everyone. It wasn't murder, anyone with even an ounce of sense knows he did not intentionally kill him, he didn't go out that day and thing...IMMA kill me a nigga today...or while he was sitting on his neck think "Hey, I'm gowna kill dis coon while everyone is here filming me do it"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-10-27 at 3:25 PM UTC
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2021-10-27 at 3:25 PM UTCprecedent
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2021-10-27 at 3:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Everyone should care, the breakdown of the basic "beyond reasonable doubt" thing could affect everyone. It wasn't murder, anyone with even an ounce of sense knows he did not intentionally kill him, he didn't go out that day and thing…IMMA kill me a nigga today…or while he was sitting on his neck think "Hey, I'm gowna kill dis coon while everyone is here filming me do it"
If this is where you perceive legal injustices to be most relevant to the populace then I have some bad news for you about everything since the code of hannurabe
Well you're implying it wasn't first degree murder, which he was not convicted of or charged with. I guess you have some difficulty with the legalese but second degree is intent to commit murder or grievous bodily harm which, were I to kneel on someone's neck for 10 minutes and after saying they can't breathe they go limp and I continue to kneel on his neck, I'm going to assume this person is going to die or at least suffer terrible damage. There's a reason why there's a referee in MMA fights who ensures when someone is choked out they don't continue to apply pressure, because shortly after that the person will suffer brain damage and shortly after that they will die.
Like many a judge has said "ignorance of the law (and of human physiology) are not an excuse"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-10-27 at 3:48 PM UTC
Originally posted by Solstice Yeah and everyone knows conservatives are just beacons of what is right and just. It's two sides of the same coin you fucking retard, all politicians and both political parties act the exact same way now. Pull your head from your ass and turn off Fox news.
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2021-10-27 at 3:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo If this is where you perceive legal injustices to be most relevant to the populace then I have some bad news for you about everything since the code of hannurabe
Well you're implying it wasn't first degree murder, which he was not convicted of or charged with. I guess you have some difficulty with the legalese but second degree is intent to commit murder or grievous bodily harm which, were I to kneel on someone's neck for 10 minutes and after saying they can't breathe they go limp and I continue to kneel on his neck, I'm going to assume this person is going to die or at least suffer terrible damage. There's a reason why there's a referee in MMA fights who ensures when someone is choked out they don't continue to apply pressure, because shortly after that the person will suffer brain damage and shortly after that they will die.
Like many a judge has said "ignorance of the law (and of human physiology) are not an excuse"
Yeah the law doesn't work on "Assumption"...kneeling on the BACK of the neck isn't usually something that leads to death...you're not restricting the airway...as such the "Benefit of the doubt" comes into action...and so manslaughter...not murder.
Again...BACK OF NECK.
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2021-10-27 at 3:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo If this is where you perceive legal injustices to be most relevant to the populace then I have some bad news for you about everything since the code of hannurabe
Well you're implying it wasn't first degree murder, which he was not convicted of or charged with. I guess you have some difficulty with the legalese but second degree is intent to commit murder or grievous bodily harm which, were I to kneel on someone's neck for 10 minutes and after saying they can't breathe they go limp and I continue to kneel on his neck, I'm going to assume this person is going to die or at least suffer terrible damage. There's a reason why there's a referee in MMA fights who ensures when someone is choked out they don't continue to apply pressure, because shortly after that the person will suffer brain damage and shortly after that they will die.
Like many a judge has said "ignorance of the law (and of human physiology) are not an excuse"
*code of harambeThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-10-27 at 3:52 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra don't be a nigger.
negligence and manslaughter maybe (compounded by drugs and a heart condition), but there was never any evidence of intent and as far as I know there was never even any presented.
never mind how badly the jurors were tainted and the fact that the restraining technique is used in plenty of other countries with no fatalities
***anybody else who's been convicted of murder for less shouldn't have been either, it just means the system is a joke
Not to mention these lefty nutjobs never mention the fact an autopsy found fentanyl in his system and video footage proves he swallowed a square, white packet while being arrested. They think you're too stupid to know the whole story. -
2021-10-27 at 3:55 PM UTCHe'll get off on the appeal..then we'll see some serious rioting.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-10-27 at 3:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yeah the law doesn't work on "Assumption"
Yes it does. Also, nowhere iny post was the word assume or assumption. Do you know anything about law? It seriously does not seem like it. Maybe things are different in jolly ol England where they'll call the SWAT team of bobbies with Billy clubs over a school marm with a sharp looking protractor but not in north America.
You're trying (and failing) to split hairs in the defense of a pig who should be publicly curbstomped a la American history X. In British History X the queen, Charles and Andrew hold him down and rape him with a scepter made from blood diamonds -
2021-10-27 at 3:59 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo Yes it does. Also, nowhere iny post was the word assume or assumption.
You said
" but second degree is intent to commit murder"
If you can't prove that intent you are assuming it...there was no proof that he intended to kill him..therefore it's an assumption if you stick with 2nd degree murder. -
2021-10-27 at 3:59 PM UTCSure, the pigs are corrupt and dangerous and most of them should be in prison, but they didn't kill Floyd. The evidence proves that.
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2021-10-27 at 4:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo You're trying (and failing) to split hairs
Yes that IS how the law works, splitting hairs, getting to the nitty gritty...there was ZERO evidence that he INTENDED to kill him...as such it's not murder...as that requires INTENT...it was manslaughter (at best)...and even that's then ignoring the fentenol thing etc...reckless endangerment would be more appropriate.
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Again "Beyond reasonable doubt"
There IS reasonable doubt that kneeling on the BACK of someone's neck isn't going to kill them. -
2021-10-27 at 4:07 PM UTCit's a standard technique in most European swat/riot units; it doesn't restrict air or blood flow unless you fuck it up somehow
plenty of people have demonstrated it on youtubeThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-10-27 at 4:09 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra it's a standard technique in most European swat/riot units; it doesn't restrict air or blood flow unless you fuck it up somehow
plenty of people have demonstrated it on youtube
Exactly...as well as countless wrestlers, MMA fighters etc etc...All you are kneeling on is a bit of skin/muscle and bone...no airways or major arteries).
I think most of the idiots who argue about the kneeling on the neck thing aren't even aware it was the back of the neck. -
2021-10-27 at 4:13 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Yes that IS how the law works, splitting hairs, getting to the nitty gritty…there was ZERO evidence that he INTENDED to kill him…as such it's not murder…as that requires INTENT…it was manslaughter (at best)…and even that's then ignoring the fentenol thing etc…reckless endangerment would be more appropriate.
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Again "Beyond reasonable doubt"
There IS reasonable doubt that kneeling on the BACK of someone's neck isn't going to kill them.
That's debatable. It was also a JURY trial which means 12 people that heard the evidence in the courtroom believed that intent was formed. I personally with that ive seen wouldn't have convicted him of 2nd degree murder but still would have sentenced him to death. Your defense is "the pig just doesn't know that restricting someone's airway as they say they can't breathe before going limp doesn't mean he knew what everyone else can tell he was doing"
"OMG a jury convicted a pig of a higher degree of criminal responsibility for someone's death, let's all be tearful victims about it"
Shut up. Nobody cares because they have better things to worry about. Take up your feelings with the cops you dress up like Ron Swanson to fellate -
2021-10-27 at 4:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo That's debatable. It was also a JURY trial which means 12 people that heard the evidence in the courtroom believed that intent was formed.
..Or they were biased...
"DEREK Chauvin trial juror Brandon Mitchell wore a George Floyd inspired Black Lives Matter shirt multiple times before he was involved in the case."
..this is why it will be turned over on appeal...no actual evidence of intent and biased jurors.
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2021-10-27 at 4:17 PM UTCat least one member of the jury lied about impartiality/foreknowledge and posted photos of himself at a Floyd rally, later describing his role as 'activism' and several others said they felt they were under duressThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-10-27 at 4:17 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo "OMG a jury convicted a pig of a higher degree of criminal responsibility for someone's death, let's all be tearful victims about it"
Shut up. Nobody cares because they have better things to worry about. Take up your feelings with the cops you dress up like Ron Swanson to fellate
The irony is palpable...
