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THE MAGA PARTY!,,, the GOP is dead, republicans are going down with the dems,, get ready for THE MAGA PARTY lefty's
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2021-09-23 at 4:05 AM UTCThe Black Swan approaches.
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2021-09-23 at 4:43 AM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Thanks for your well thought out refutation of each and every item in that article.
You so smart!
Maybe you would get higher quality responses if you made higher quality posts. All you do is copypasta articles from journos who's views align with your own.
For fucks sake why would anyone be interested in arguing with a wall of copypaata?
You yourself can't be bothered to or lack the capacity to summerize the key points in the articles (with which you splew up every thread you post in) which support your view.
Expecting or demanding a "refutation of each and every item in an (that) article" is laughable when you won't or can't articulate what the "items" are in your own words.
So TL;DR for is probably the least abrasive response you should expect for now and well into the foreseeable future. That way your expectations will be met and you feel much less disappointment and rejection.
Yours TL;DRly,
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2021-09-23 at 9:32 AM UTC
The media love fest with George W. Bush, with people singing the war criminal's praises...
I can't even continue. It's sickening. As Greenwald says, it's demented. -
2021-09-23 at 4:02 PM UTCMaking
Another
Goofy
Assertion
Salon
Mike Lindell moves the "reinstatement" goalposts again — now Trump will be back by Thanksgiving
Zachary Petrizzo
Pillow executive turned 2020 election truther Mike Lindell has revised his prediction, yet again, as to when the U.S. Supreme Court will hear his undisclosed legal argument that the 2020 election should be overturned.
As a refresher, for those who might not have been paying painstaking attention to the MyPillow CEO's every move, Lindell originally predicted that the high court would overturn the election and return Donald Trump to the White House by August. But of course that dream did not come to fruition, mostly because Lindell has presented no actual evidence but also because the Supreme Court has no authority to do any such thing. (The court can rule on the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress when they come under legal challenge, but it has no power to undo or revisit congressional actions.) That prompted Lindell to move the goalposts and claim that Trump's second coming would occur by year's end.
On Tuesday, however, Lindell made an excited announcement that his mysterious legal team has fast-tracked internal research, claiming that its thus-far-imaginary Supreme Court case is now ahead of schedule.
"This is the big announcement, everyone," Lindell proudly told Steve Bannon on the latter's "War Room: Pandemic" podcast. "I made a promise to this country that with all the evidence I have that we would get it to the Supreme Court, and I predicted they would vote 9-0 to look at the evidence."
He then asserted that before Thanksgiving, which falls on Nov. 25 this year, the court will have heard his case.
"Originally, I had hoped for August and September. I asked all the lawyers just yesterday," Lindell said. "We are taking this case to the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving. Now maybe Fox [News] will report that today." That aside was a reference to the pillow king's feud with Fox News, which has generally ignored his recent claims and refused to cover his August "cyber symposium" in South Dakota.
"This evidence is 100% non-subjective evidence," Lindell continued, "and that the Supreme Court, they're going to vote 9-nothing to take it in. We will have this before the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving. That's my promise to the people of this country. We're all in this together. We worked very hard on this!"
Late on Tuesday night, Lindell redoubled his Turkey Day promise. "I talked to all the lawyers today," he said on his Frank Speech website. "One hundred percent we are getting this before the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving. That is locked in stone, everybody." He went on to claim that the case will be the "most important case to our freedom in history."
Lindell has not released or filed any documents intended to support such a hypothetical case, nor has he explained what legal mechanism he believes might allow the Supreme Court to take action on his unfocused claims of election fraud. Lawsuits do not go directly to the Supreme Court without working their way through the federal court system first. No suit aiming to overturn the 2020 election currently exists, and it's not clear who the plaintiff would be, or what standing they might have to make such grandiose claims.
In the wake of Lindell's failed South Dakota "cyber symposium," Salon reports have revealed that Lindell has paid at least $3 million to "cyber experts" who provided him with no real evidence of widespread voter fraud.
WILL WEASEL PROMISE TO LEAVE (AGAIN) BY THANKSGIVING IF TRUMP ISN'T REINSTATED BY THEN? -
2021-09-23 at 4:04 PM UTC
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2021-09-23 at 4:07 PM UTCBiden now dumping tens of thousands of the illegal immigrants he invited into US cities and towns. No documentation, no vetting, no Covid tests, no vaccine, no support, nothing.
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2021-09-23 at 4:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Making
Another
Goofy
Assertion
Salon
Mike Lindell moves the "reinstatement" goalposts again — now Trump will be back by Thanksgiving
Zachary Petrizzo
Pillow executive turned 2020 election truther Mike Lindell has revised his prediction, yet again, as to when the U.S. Supreme Court will hear his undisclosed legal argument that the 2020 election should be overturned.
As a refresher, for those who might not have been paying painstaking attention to the MyPillow CEO's every move, Lindell originally predicted that the high court would overturn the election and return Donald Trump to the White House by August. But of course that dream did not come to fruition, mostly because Lindell has presented no actual evidence but also because the Supreme Court has no authority to do any such thing. (The court can rule on the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress when they come under legal challenge, but it has no power to undo or revisit congressional actions.) That prompted Lindell to move the goalposts and claim that Trump's second coming would occur by year's end.
On Tuesday, however, Lindell made an excited announcement that his mysterious legal team has fast-tracked internal research, claiming that its thus-far-imaginary Supreme Court case is now ahead of schedule.
"This is the big announcement, everyone," Lindell proudly told Steve Bannon on the latter's "War Room: Pandemic" podcast. "I made a promise to this country that with all the evidence I have that we would get it to the Supreme Court, and I predicted they would vote 9-0 to look at the evidence."
He then asserted that before Thanksgiving, which falls on Nov. 25 this year, the court will have heard his case.
"Originally, I had hoped for August and September. I asked all the lawyers just yesterday," Lindell said. "We are taking this case to the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving. Now maybe Fox [News] will report that today." That aside was a reference to the pillow king's feud with Fox News, which has generally ignored his recent claims and refused to cover his August "cyber symposium" in South Dakota.
"This evidence is 100% non-subjective evidence," Lindell continued, "and that the Supreme Court, they're going to vote 9-nothing to take it in. We will have this before the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving. That's my promise to the people of this country. We're all in this together. We worked very hard on this!"
Late on Tuesday night, Lindell redoubled his Turkey Day promise. "I talked to all the lawyers today," he said on his Frank Speech website. "One hundred percent we are getting this before the Supreme Court before Thanksgiving. That is locked in stone, everybody." He went on to claim that the case will be the "most important case to our freedom in history."
Lindell has not released or filed any documents intended to support such a hypothetical case, nor has he explained what legal mechanism he believes might allow the Supreme Court to take action on his unfocused claims of election fraud. Lawsuits do not go directly to the Supreme Court without working their way through the federal court system first. No suit aiming to overturn the 2020 election currently exists, and it's not clear who the plaintiff would be, or what standing they might have to make such grandiose claims.
In the wake of Lindell's failed South Dakota "cyber symposium," Salon reports have revealed that Lindell has paid at least $3 million to "cyber experts" who provided him with no real evidence of widespread voter fraud.
WILL WEASEL PROMISE TO LEAVE (AGAIN) BY THANKSGIVING IF TRUMP ISN'T REINSTATED BY THEN?
Fuck you, I'll be eating turkey in the Oval Office, guaranteed. -
2021-09-23 at 4:31 PM UTCMaking
All Trump's lawyers
Go
Away
The Daily Beast
Trumpworld’s Star Lawyers Exit as Storm Clouds Gather
Asawin Suebsaeng, Maxwell Tani, Roger Sollenberger, Adam Rawnsley
Civil and criminal investigations in New York and Georgia. Defamation suits from two women. A civil suit over misuse of inauguration funds. A number of complaints related to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. And a new lawsuit related to the disclosure of the former president’s taxes.
Donald Trump is facing even more legal challenges than normal—which is saying something for a man so litigious and familiar with legal duress. But even though he is someone who tends to keep the same people around him for longer than he should, a number of the ex-president’s longtime, high-profile lawyers have recently parted ways with Trumpworld.
When Trump sued The New York Times and his niece Mary earlier this week, the attorney who filed the lawsuit was a relatively unknown lawyer. Alina Habba, based in the same town as the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey, comes with a résumé far less ostentatious than the legal CVs that the twice-impeached former president has come to expect. But Trump appears to be leaning on Habba now to take on his niece and the Times reporters who disclosed some of Trump’s previous tax filings.
At the same time, Habba’s ascension in Trump’s legal hierarchy comes alongside the conspicuous fall of another: the Gawker-killing celebrity lawyer Charles Harder, whom the ex-president and members of his family have relied upon for years to go after journalists, authors, and major book publishers Trump felt had crossed the line.
In previous years, a case against New York Times reporters and a family member who Trump alleged was the source for the journalists would have easily fallen to Harder, a lawyer the 45th U.S. president once lauded as a hard-charging attack dog of the rich and the powerful.
But according to two people with knowledge of the matter, Trump said he wanted to fire Harder earlier this year, having grown frustrated with what he viewed as his famous lawyer’s insufficient number of recent “wins,” and the good amount of money Trump had sent Harder’s way.
Not long after Trump began privately demanding Harder’s exile this summer, court documents began noting his replacement as the former president’s counsel of record.
Trump’s spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment on this story. When reached for comment by The Daily Beast, Harder noted a number of his legal victories on behalf of Trump to deny any suggestion the ex-president may have wanted to fire him. “I’m not allowed to discuss attorney-client matters, so I cannot respond except to ask who is saying this because they are probably making it up,” he wrote.
The Gawker-slaying attorney, however, isn’t the only big-name or expensive lawyer who has parted ways with Trump, his family, or his business empire this year.
For months, Trump has been bleeding or discarding top legal talent, according to court records and various interviews. And this comes at a time when the ex-president and his inner sanctum are drowning in criminal investigations, and lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit.
The reasons for some of the individual departures from the MAGA legal orbit remain unclear. Trump, who often detests paying his bills and legal fees, has a track record of essentially turning his back on former lawyers (including Rudy Giuliani), having tempestuous falling-outs with one-time confidants and attorneys (such as Michael Cohen), and aggressively turning on multiple U.S. attorneys general who he himself had nominated.
During Trump’s time in the White House, his administration and his legal teams were known for a high turnover rate. In his first year out of power, the pattern appears to be holding.
Earlier this month, Trump alerted New York state’s highest court that his longtime lawyer Marc Kasowitz was no longer acting as his attorney in a high-profile legal dispute between the former president and Summer Zervos, a former Apprentice contestant who is suing Trump for defamation after he denied her claims that he made unwanted sexual advances against her, including groping and kissing her without her consent in 2007.
For years, Kasowitz has had his hands in numerous legal cases on Trump’s behalf, representing him in divorces, casino disputes with billionaire Carl Icahn, and campaign- and Russia-related matters. Earlier this year, Reuters noted that the Trump campaign had paid his firm $1.6 million between November 2020 and February 2021 alone.
Kasowitz did not respond to requests for comment, and several people close to Trump couldn’t, or wouldn’t, say why Kasowitz was no longer repping Trump in that case, except to say he was “out” or “gone,” for now at least. (In fact, the earliest hint of the 36-year-old Habba’s new role as the former president’s latest legal champion came when the New Jersey attorney signed on to represent Trump in the lawsuit filed by Zervos, replacing Kasowitz.)
It was only less than two months before Kasowitz’s exit that Trump had filed a motion in a D.C., court noting that he was no longer retaining Harder.
Harder had become a go-to for the Trumps in several cases against news organizations after he forced the Daily Mail to pay Melania Trump a $2.9 million settlement over a since-retracted story about her work in the 1990s. CNN reported that Harder’s firm was at one point during the 2020 campaign responsible for the majority of the Trump campaign’s legal costs, filing a series of lawsuits against news organizations including The New York Times.
And last month, according to court records, Trump swapped out Harder for a new lawyer, John Sweeney, to represent him in a lawsuit filed against him by the parents of several toddlers featured in a pro-Trump meme made by MAGA social-media figure Logan “Carpe Donktum” Cook. (That case was dismissed in July but Trump has continued to appeal for attorneys fees, court documents show.)
Among the other longtime Trump legal defenders who are splitting—or at least taking a break—from the former leader of the free world is Jay Sekulow, the front man for the conservative American Center for Law & Justice. As of late February, Sekulow was still on the ex-president’s team.
For years, and throughout the turnover and the legal team purges, Sekulow remained a reliable constant among Trump’s legal advisers and protectors. Now, in the first year of Trump’s post-presidency, Sekulow is currently laying dormant, finally qualifying as a former Trump attorney.
“My responsibilities on the constitutional issues, as they pertain to former President Trump, have been concluded,” Sekulow told The Daily Beast on Wednesday.
The recent Trumpworld legal shakeup isn’t confined to the patriarch of the family. Eric Trump’s legal team also appears to have gone through a recent major shakeup, with Marc Mukasey quietly withdrawing as a representative last week.
Mukasey, who has been called “the lawyer at the center of the Trump universe,” had been tapped by the Trump Organization for various legal matters, such as representing Eric when he was deposed last October by the office of New York Attorney General Letitia James. But while Mukasey—an in-demand white-collar criminal defense attorney with a federal pedigree—was once hands-on with the Trump Organization, he, like many attorneys, appears to have stepped back from that work in recent months.
The withdrawal, which Mukasey submitted Sept. 14 without explanation, is notable for a number of reasons. For one, it removes the powerful defense attorney amid signs that the high-stakes New York investigations are intensifying. On Monday, a lawyer for former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, who in June was indicted alongside the company by Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance, told a New York City judge they have “strong reason to believe there could be more indictments coming.”
But court records with the state of New York show that, unlike the Vance case, the NYAG civil Trump docket had been quiet since January.
On Sept. 3, the parties in the case filed an agreement, which is no longer publicly accessible—10 days later they asked to have it sealed. The day after the judge granted the request, Mukasey withdrew.
“PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that I, Marc L. Mukasey, of Mukasey Frenchman LLP hereby withdraw my appearance as counsel of record for Respondent Eric Trump. Respondent Eric Trump will continue to be represented by Alan Futerfas,” Mukasey wrote, referencing the high-powered mob attorney who has tag-teamed Trump Organization cases alongside Mukasey.
While the withdrawal is the first record of distance between the Trumps and their trusted go-to attorney, Mukasey has long been private about that work. He hasn’t made any public statements in months, even in the wake of the June indictment, when co-counsel Futerfas spoke on behalf of the company.
Mukasey declined to comment on the record for this article. Futerfas did not respond to a message seeking comment, either.
Eric Trump, who has not been accused of wrongdoing, and a spokesperson for the Trump Organization also did not reply to The Daily Beast’s requests for comment. But with several reputable lawyers steering clear of former President Trump in recent months, the move by Mukasey—a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York and close associate of Trump ally Giuliani—certainly stands out.
The former president has himself tapped Mukasey in the past as his go-to counsel for consequential court fights. From 2018 to 2019, Mukasey repped the Trump Foundation in another case brought by James for misuse of donor funds. The nonprofit was eventually ordered to shut down and pay $2 million to charity groups. And currently, Mukasey, along with Futerfas, who is a Democratic donor, nominally represents the Trump Organization as it awaits an order in a dispute with former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen over legal fees.
That docket, however, has been dormant since early June, as the parties in the case await the judge’s decision to dismiss the case or send it to trial.
Tristan Snell, who successfully prosecuted the Trump University scandal as a former assistant New York attorney general, told The Daily Beast that attorneys exercise a duty to their clients and “withdrawing as defense counsel in an ongoing investigation isn’t normal.”
While Eric Trump still retains Futerfas, Mukasey’s departure will almost doubtlessly impact his case. And if Mukasey’s recent silence indicates he’s pared back his role in Trumpland more broadly, that effect could multiply.
In a Fox News meltdown four days after Mukasey bailed, Eric Trump complained that “Democrats” have “weaponized” the government against his family, and said the Trump Organization has been getting “subpoena after subpoena after subpoena.” -
2021-09-23 at 4:32 PM UTC
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2021-09-23 at 4:36 PM UTCEnds up the idiots even rigged votes in Republican-dominant states, and the Republicans were only too happy to open up their router logs and documentation to three independent teams of forensic auditors, who went on to find evidence of massive Democrat voter fraud and foreign involvement. The Supreme Court of the United States is set to examine all the evidence before Thanksgiving.
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2021-09-23 at 4:46 PM UTC
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2021-09-23 at 4:54 PM UTCI never ate crow. Maybe it's really tasty.
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2021-09-23 at 4:56 PM UTCSalon
Exactly a year ago, Donald Trump told us exactly who he was and how far he would go
Brian Karem
At first, I couldn't believe what the president said.
My question was quite simple — and I anticipated a simple answer. I sought reassurance that whatever else, a peaceful transfer of power after an election — one of the cornerstones of the American experience that has made us unique, a fundamental example of why other nations look up to us — was not up for debate.
Since George Washington gave up the reins of power and retired to his farm, like an American Cincinnatus, the peaceful transfer of power from president to president has been an example the rest of the world respects and has emulated.
We have taken this for granted. Donald Trump treated this tradition as personal toilet paper.
Whatever else happened during the four years that Donald Trump was president, I expected him and the GOP to uphold this American tradition. Hence, one year ago, on Sept. 23, 2020, I asked Donald Trump whether, come "win, lose or draw," he would accept a peaceful transfer of power. Until he came along, I would never have thought to ask a president such a question. I might as well have asked if they intended to continue breathing.
But Trump was different. The time was different. That briefing, in the Brady Briefing Room of the White House, came during the height of the coronavirus pandemic. The White House press corps had voluntarily reduced our numbers to just 14, in a room that routinely had hosted as many as 110 reporters during Trump's tenure in the White House. Trump, through his press secretary, had routinely skirted this mandate by inviting "guests" from favored news organizations to stand at the back of the room and ask questions. I routinely showed up to counter-program the Trump lackeys.
On the day in question last year, someone with an assigned seat didn't show up for the presidential briefing and rather than allowing a Trump acolyte to take the open seat — which was the last seat in the last row — I took it myself.
Mind you, I did not believe Trump would call on me. He and I had a past. I had sued him to keep my press pass. He'd called me "fake news" and "that Playboy guy," and had told me to sit down and shut up on several occasions. Once he threatened to walk out of a news conference in the Rose Garden if I didn't shut up. I didn't, and he didn't walk out. He took the question while complaining the whole time.
On Sept. 23, 2020, he surprised me again. Not only did he take my question, but he picked me first and I did not hesitate. The only issue on the minds of millions of Americans then was whether or not Trump would respect the results of the upcoming election. What Trump said to me and told the nation that day was the match that lit the fire leading to the "Big Lie," an insurrection, one dead rioter, dead and beaten Capitol Police officers, and a nation that is still divided, sore and angry. More importantly, Trump has never admitted that he lost the election and he threatens our democracy daily.
No one should be surprised.
Everyone should be outraged.
But some, including high-ranking members of the Republican Party, continue to defend Trump and millions of Americans still believe him — no matter what they saw on television, no matter what they were told in news reports and no matter what the reality is.
Kellyanne Conway described this phenomenon as "alternative facts" and that is where millions of Americans, courtesy of a consummate con man, dwell today — in the gray nether regions of a constructed fiction where Trump and his minions believe he won; where taking a de-worming drug designed by scientists for horses is preferable to taking a vaccine designed by scientists for humans and where Trump is universally respected and/or feared by the leaders of the rest of the world — and where only he can save us.
Trump came closer than most of us know to staging a coup, even after he warned us about that last September. Recent news reports and a new book by Bob Woodward and Robert Costa highlight a six-point plan for Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 election results.
Other news reports show that Trump and his team knew shortly after the election that there was no basis for challenging its results, and that Sen. Lindsey Graham apparently thought the arguments proposed to challenge the election results amounted to the logic of a "third grader." Still they lied to us.
Now we know what Trump meant when I asked him last year if he would "commit to a peaceful transferal of power after the election." This is what he said:
"We're going to have to see what happens. I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the ballots are a disaster. . . get rid of the ballots . . . and there won't be a transfer, frankly, they'll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control. You know it . . ."
"No I don't," I replied.
Trump's traitorous, convoluted and muddy thinking, his flash over substance, his obfuscation of facts and his total disregard for the truth and decency was horrifying then and has largely overwhelmed American politics now.
There are those so convinced that Trump got screwed in the 2020 election that they'll defend the treasonous actions of the insurrectionists on Jan. 6, while at the same time denying that Trump whipped them into a frenzy or that they were in a frenzy at all. With the same breath, there are those who will say the insurrection was a peaceful protest, an FBI, Black Lives Matter or antifa violent action, that it did not occur or was justified or — shudder — was even patriotic. The actions of that day were the actions of domestic terrorists. I was there. I witnessed it.
Look where we are now.
Division. Denial of facts. It was all there in the statement Trump made. He provided the roadmap to an insurrection on Sept. 23, 2020. People followed it. People died.
A year later, the United States looks even more lost than it was a year ago.
Donald Trump doesn't care. He wants to bring it all down and is trying to run a shadow presidency as he ridicules everything Joe Biden does.
Make no mistake. Biden has his faults. His handling of the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the Haitian problem on the border and the alliance with Australia and the U.K., which has created major friction with France, are all wounds that have been self-inflicted and damaging.
But Biden respects the Constitution, and anyone with a modicum of intelligence can see he is trying to work for all of us, not just himself. He has rallied to get Congress and the country to unify — working hard to get a bipartisan infrastructure package passed and constantly urging Americans to come together as he pushes hard for voting rights and increased taxes on the rich.
Trump never did that and never could. A year after he fanned the flame of insurrection in a White House briefing, we can clearly see the consequences of those actions. The threat of a coup was real — spurred by Trump's disregard for truth, an obsession with being branded a loser and a narcissistic view of the universe that boils down to this: For Donald Trump, we don't matter. Only his own desires matter.
As Kurt Bardella wrote recently in USA Today, "We cannot let our guard down. … Today's GOP has patterned itself after extreme and radical factions. Despots who are intent on normalizing violence to achieve their political objectives."
These actions in the GOP are rooted in Donald Trump's words. After he became president, Trump found levers to pull that sated his twisted needs for self-glory and adulation. He is addicted to that. His putrid, warped sense of self cannot permit him to let go and he continues to try and pull us down into the toilet with him.
In the 1993 western "Tombstone," Doc Holliday (played by Val Kilmer) is asked what makes a man like Johnny Ringo, the film's villain. "A man like Ringo has got a great big hole right in the middle of him," he says. "He can never kill enough or steal enough or inflict enough pain to ever fill it."
Like Johnny Ringo, Donald Trump seeks revenge — for being born.
A year after he told us, in response to my question about the election, how he would bend reality to suit his needs, he still tries. Since he has had some success in retaining his base (and more importantly for him, in raising money), there are other Republicans following his act.
United we stand. Divided we fall. Trump is the king of division. For the rest of us to stand he must fall. He must be prosecuted. He must be culled from the body politic.
Only then can we possibly hope to address "Trumpism."
Trump showed us his hand a year ago. Time is long overdue to show him the back of ours. -
2021-09-23 at 4:57 PM UTC
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2021-09-23 at 5:06 PM UTCIt takes a naieve persona to take hysterical jedis seriously. You never had to deal with them much IRL, did you stl1? Lucky you.
