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2021-09-14 at 1:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump "Stupid people take their medical advice from Alex Jones. I'm smart so I take my medical advice from Jimmy Kimmel."
"But this is an interesting statistic: Covid deaths – have proven to be much higher – in states that voted for Trump."
Apparently, stupider people take their medical advice from Trump. -
2021-09-14 at 2:05 PM UTC
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2021-09-14 at 3 PM UTCAnd Republicans.
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2021-09-14 at 3:05 PM UTCBlack republicans. Does anyone care if they die though? STUPID TRUMP NIGGERS AM I RIGHT??
two men who love sucking that kike cock
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2021-09-14 at 4:04 PM UTCTwo nuts.
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2021-09-14 at 4:07 PM UTCI would walk to the park by myself at age 4-5 like 4 blocks away. Meet friends, go run around even farther. Be home by dinner.
Your world today is fucked -
2021-09-14 at 5:26 PM UTCMaybe
Already
God
Answered
Newsweek
Anti-Vaccine Activist Who Said 'There's No Epidemic' Dies of COVID
Khaleda Rahman
A prominent Israeli anti-vaccine activist has reportedly died of COVID-19.
Hai Shaulian, 57, died at the Wolfson Medical Center in Holon on Monday morning, according to The Jerusalem Post.
His death came after he posted a final message to his Facebook followers on Saturday, informing them that his condition was "extremely critical."
Alongside a photo of himself on a ventilator, he wrote: "Dear friends. My situation is extremely critical."
Shaulian added that he was "in a very serious condition" and "unable to talk."
"I have no oxygen and can't stabilize," he continued. "It took me about an hour to figure out who I am. Where am I and what am I doing here. Lack of oxygen is a terrible thing."
He added that he believed he would recover "with God's help."
Despite his dire situation, Shaulian urged his followers to "keep fighting" against Israel's "Green Pass" scheme that registers who has been fully inoculated against COVID, if they have presumed immunity after contracting the disease, or tested negative in the previous 24 hours.
"It has nothing to do with the coronavirus," he wrote. "It has nothing to do with vaccines. It has to do with coercion."
When Shaulian fell ill last week, he claimed that police had tried to poison him after he was arrested during a protest against the Green Pass.
"I'm telling you, this is an attempt to wipe me out and if something happens to me know that's exactly what happened," he said in a social media video, according to The Times of Israel.
He previously called on his followers not to get vaccinated against COVID-19. "There is no epidemic—the vaccine is unnecessary and dangerous," he was quoted in The Post.
Israel's Green Pass was brought back over the summer along with other restrictions as the country's government sought to combat a fourth wave of coronavirus infections driven by the highly contagious Delta variant.
Last month, Israel announced that anyone over 3 would have to show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test before entering many outdoor spaces.
Israel implemented a rapid campaign to vaccinate its population in December last year. So far, 61 percent of the country's population is fully vaccinated.
The country has also embarked on a vaccine booster campaign, offering third jabs to anyone over 30 as of late August. -
2021-09-14 at 5:54 PM UTCIntelligencer
DeSantis and the Agony of the Anti-Anti-Anti-Vaxx Republican
Jonathan Chait
The right-wing backlash against the coronavirus vaccines has forced Republican politicians to make an agonizing choice. On the one hand, public health and public opinion both militate strongly in favor of vaccination. On the other hand, a vocal segment of their own base demands resistance.
Most have tried to navigate the fine line between these competing pressures by formally endorsing the vaccine as a personal choice while loudly standing up for the rights of vaccine refusers. Ron DeSantis, the party’s leading choice to lead it should Donald Trump decide not to run, exemplifies the careful balance. On Monday, DeSantis announced tough new measures to punish any city or county in Florida that requires its public employees to receive a vaccine, with a $5,000 fine per infraction.
At his press conference, DeSantis stood beside a man who claimed the vaccine “changes your RNA,” a completely false anti-vaxx talking point. You could tell DeSantis knew this immediately. As soon as the line was uttered, he looked down at the ground, then nervously thrust his left hand into his pocket. His careful work to frame the issue entirely as a matter of rights was suddenly going up in flames:
After this uncomfortable moment, DeSantis still had a choice. He had a turn to speak afterward, and could have explicitly denounced the dangerous, paranoid nonsense that had just been circulated with his imprimatur. But to do so would have been to alienate a crucial constituency. The DeSantis game is to bring along anti-vaxxers without explicitly attaching himself to their most toxic beliefs. They could babble about RNA and Bill Gates all they wished offstage; onstage, the message would be relentlessly focused on the abstract issue of people’s rights.
The forces that brought DeSantis and his party to this pitiable position were roughly twofold. First, the Republican party has developed a growing skepticism of scientific authority over time. Fifty years ago, Republicans actually trusted scientists more than Democrats did, but the conservative movement’s attacks on science (especially the varieties of science that implied the need for regulation of pollution or consumer goods) hardened into an institutionalized skepticism; the first COVID skeptics out of the gate were disproportionately drawn from climate-science skeptics.
Second, Trump’s panicked response to the coronavirus was to deny it altogether. Once Trump decided the pandemic was a hoax designed to sabotage his reelection, his followers embraced that view, from which it naturally followed that every measure putatively aimed at containing the “pandemic” was described as unnecessary or harmful.
Republican party elites found anti-vaxx sentiment embarrassing and unhelpful. Most of them have endorsed the vaccine as a choice, with varying levels of enthusiasm. Yet they have found themselves stuck with an anti-vaxx core too large to risk alienating. This has set off the same kind of finely parsed calculation that they employed to respond to various Trumpian outrages.
Their answer has always been to find a way to avoid defending the indefensible and instead change the question to the excesses of the other side. Was Trump’s recorded confession of sexual assault morally acceptable? Who knows? But they did know that Hillary Clinton’s socialist schemes weren’t. Was it okay for Trump to strong-arm a foreign government into ginning up a scandal against his opponent? That didn’t matter — the real issue was the unfairness of the impeachment proceedings, held in a basement, and so forth.
DeSantis had perfected the art of anti-anti-anti-vaxx politics. He had given the jab his official endorsement, yet day after day he sent signals that he would defend the rights of anti-vaxxers. If necessary, DeSantis would trample traditional conservative principles to do so. Conservative Republicans normally respect freedom of contract, but DeSantis used his power to prohibit cruise lines from requiring their passengers be vaccinated. Conservative Republicans also don’t generally treat government employment as a sacrosanct right, but here he was insisting, “We are gonna stand for the men and women who are serving us. We are gonna protect Florida jobs.” Nor do they generally approve of state authority overriding local control of schools, unless that authority is being used to prohibit mask requirements.
The gambit works in theory, as long as everybody can stay on message. The problem with the theory is that hardly anybody actually cares about the abstract principles DeSantis is claiming to defend. The idea that bodily autonomy trumps personal responsibility, property rights, and local control is a hierarchy of values invented for this circumstance.
(“My body, my choice” is not a notable Republican slogan.)
The real point is to signal political solidarity with anti-vaxxers, to show that he believes their views are deserving of respect.
The trouble is that his message that anti-vaxxers have a legitimate point of view has the effect of legitimizing their message. What’s more, getting the anti-vaxxers to stick to the approved talking points is tricky, given the notorious difficulty kooks have with message discipline. Putting a kook in front of a microphone and asking him not to share with the world the evidence of the dubious conspiracy he’s uncovered is to demand an unrealistic level of impulse control.
Once a political party’s percentage of kooks has risen above a certain threshold, it’s no longer practical to kick them out. They must instead be placated. It is a constant process of papering over distinctions to avoid an internal schism that would enrage the kooks. The Republican party didn’t set out to position itself with vaccine skeptics. But they have found themselves, once again, standing shoulder to shoulder with the absurd, looking down at their feet and pretending it isn’t happening. -
2021-09-16 at 6:34 PM UTCMay all of you unvaccinated
Assholes
Go
And die while waiting to be treated
The New York Times
Idaho Allows Overwhelmed Hospitals to Ration Care If Needed
Mike Baker
With its hospitals struggling to cope with a flood of patients, Idaho officials activated “crisis standards of care” across the state on Thursday, allowing overwhelmed facilities to ration treatment if needed.
“The situation is dire — we don’t have enough resources to adequately treat the patients in our hospitals, whether you are there for Covid-19 or a heart attack or because of a car accident,” Dave Jeppesen, the director of the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare, said in a statement.
Crisis standards of care lay out guidelines for hospitals to follow when they cannot meet demand and must ration services. Idaho officials noted that patients may find themselves being treated in repurposed rooms, or that needed equipment is not available. Some patients may have to wait for beds to become available.
Though states around the country have prepared plans for how to allocate critical resources in a crisis during the pandemic, few have formally implemented such plans even when hospitalizations have soared. Alaska’s largest hospital said this week that it was operating under crisis standards, and that some emergency-room patients were having to wait in their vehicles for hours to be seen by a physician.
Nationwide, new coronavirus cases and hospitalizations have declined slightly in recent weeks, but much of the progress seen in hard-hit Southern states is being offset by growing outbreaks in the Upper Midwest and Mountain West, including Idaho.
One in four hospitals across the country reports that more than 95 percent of its intensive care beds were occupied as of the week ending Sept. 9, up from one in five hospitals last month. Experts say hospitals may have difficulty maintaining standards of care for the sickest patients when all or nearly all I.C.U. beds are occupied.
Idaho adopted crisis standards for hospitals in the northern part of the state earlier this month. Nurses there are caring for higher patient loads than usual and are authorized not to check vital signs as often as they otherwise would. If the situation worsens, rationing could get more drastic, with hospitals having to decide which patients will get priority for limited supplies of oxygen or ventilators.
Hospitalizations for Covid-19 have continued to surge across Idaho, and are now running nearly 40 percent above the previous peak of the pandemic, according to federal data. The state health department said that St. Luke’s Health System, which has a network of hospitals across the state, requested that the crisis standards be expanded statewide.
Despite the spreading crisis, Gov. Brad Little has resisted imposing new coronavirus restrictions or mandating mask-wearing and vaccinations. That has led to growing frustration in neighboring Washington State, which has an indoor mask mandate and other safety protocols, and where hospitals have been strained by numerous patient transfers from Idaho.
Idaho has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the country. Mr. Jeppesen said the best way to end the use of crisis standards of care is for more people to get vaccinated.
“Our hospitals and health care systems need our help,” he said. -
2021-09-16 at 6:36 PM UTCYou do know that whole "hospitals are secretly full of covid victims" shit has been debunked?The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-09-16 at 6:45 PM UTCMaybe you
All shouldn't
Go and get your medical information from
A rapper
CBS News
White House offers Nicki Minaj a call about COVID-19 vaccine, official says
Li Cohen
The White House has offered Nicki Minaj a call with a doctor, according to an official, after she expressed concerns this week about getting the COVID-19 vaccine. The rapper tweeted on Monday that she wants to do more research before getting vaccinated and claimed that a friend of her cousin's had experienced adverse effects from it, which health officials have refuted.
"My cousin in Trinidad won't get the vaccine cuz his friend got it & became impotent. His testicles became swollen," Minaj tweeted Monday. "His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it & make sure you're comfortable with ur decision, not bullied."
Minaj's tweet immediately sparked global backlash, with several health professionals commenting on her post that the vaccine does not cause testicles to swell. Dr. Anthony Fauci also responded to her claims, telling CNN on Tuesday that the COVID vaccine cannot cause reproductive issues.
Trinidad and Tobago Minister of Health Terrence Deyalsingh said at a press conference on Wednesday that officials have "wasted so much time" checking Minaj's claim about her cousin's friend.
"What was sad about this is that it wasted our time yesterday, trying to track down, because we take all these claims seriously," Deyalsingh said. "...As we stand now, there is absolutely no reported such side effect or adverse event of testicular swelling in Trinidad, or I dare say...none that we know of anywhere else in the world."
The White House has invited Minaj to have a conversation about her hesitancy about getting the vaccine. But that, too, has become a controversial subset of Minaj's claims. Minaj said she was invited to the White House and that "I'm going," while a White House official said she was "offered a call."
"As we have with others, we offered a call with Nicki Minaj and one of our doctors to answer questions she has about the safety and effectiveness of the vaccine," the official told CBS News.
In a video posted to her Instagram on Wednesday night, Minaj insisted she was invited to visit in person, saying, "do ya'll think that I would go on the internet and lie about being invited to the f****** White House?"
Minaj said her publicist and manager was on the phone call when she spoke with someone from the White House, and that an official had specifically requested she "come to the White House" to speak with Dr. Fauci and the U.S. Surgeon General. Minaj said she told the White House she would rather not travel and asked them to do a "live," which she says they were willing to do on a public platform.
The White House has not confirmed this information to CBS News.
Minaj also addressed those who are "jumping at the chance" to "attack her personally."
"It's disgusting that a person can't speak about just questions or thoughts they're having about something they're going to have to put in their body, that this attack is this hateful and purposeful," she said. "...If I want to ask questions about the vaccine, what's wrong?" -
2021-09-16 at 6:47 PM UTCI just got back from having a routine exam by my doctor this morning and got my influenza vaccine.
Should I be worried about my balls swelling up? -
2021-09-16 at 7:32 PM UTCMay you
All
Go
And circumcise a gnat
SNOPES
Fact Checks
Health
Did 1 in 500 US Residents Die From COVID-19 by September 2021?
A total of nearly 664,000 people were lost to the virus in the United States by Sept. 14, 2021.
Dan MacGuill
Published 15 September 2021
Claim
By September 2021, one COVID-19 death had taken place for every 500 people living in the United States.
Rating
True
In September 2021, CNN reported that the United States had reached a bleak statistical milestone in the COVID-19 pandemic: As of Sept. 14, 2021, one in every 500 U.S. residents had died from the virus since the first recorded fatalities in early 2020. The network reported that:
The United States has reached another grim milestone in its fight against the devastating Covid-19 pandemic: 1 in 500 Americans have died from coronavirus since the nation’s first reported infection.
As of Tuesday night, 663,913 people in the US have died of Covid-19, according to Johns Hopkins University. According to the US Census Bureau, the US population as of April 2020 was 331.4 million.
It’s a sobering toll that comes as hospitals in the US are struggling to keep up with the volume of patients and more children are grappling with the virus. In hopes of managing the spread and preventing more unnecessary deaths, officials are implementing mandates for vaccinations in workplaces and masking in schools.
CNN’s extrapolation was based on the best official figures available at the time, and although there was a small degree of imprecision in the numbers, a COVID-19 death rate of one death for every 500 people would inevitably be achieved, if not by Sept. 14 itself, then within a matter of a few days. The substantive point of CNN’s article was therefore accurate, and we are issuing a rating of “True.”
On Sept. 14, Johns Hopkins did indeed report that a cumulative total of almost 664,000 people had died of COVID-19 in the United States. By the morning of Sept. 15, the figure had risen by 50, to 663,963, as shown below:
As CNN correctly reported, the most up-to-date official estimates from the 2020 census — published in August 2021 — showed that the population of the United States in 2020 was estimated to be 331.4 million (331,449,281 to be precise). Those figures — 663,913 deaths in a population of 331.4 million — yield a fatality rate of one COVID-19 death for every 499 people, which is actually a slightly worse death rate than the one in 500 reported by CNN.
However, the U.S. population is highly like to have grown between the 2020 census and September 2021. According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s population ticker, the total number of people living in the U.S. on Sept. 15, 2021, was estimated to be around 332.7 million:
Based on that number, and the slightly increased COVID-19 death total reported by Johns Hopkins on the morning of Sept. 15, the estimated fatality rate was one COVID-19 death for every 501 people — again, almost exactly the rate claimed by CNN.
Furthermore, in the days leading up to Sept. 14, the U.S. was adding an average of around 1,200 new COVID-19 deaths per day. Extrapolating roughly from that rate of increase, and the Census Bureau’s estimated rate of increase in the overall population (one person added every 25 seconds, or 3,456 added each day), then the U.S. would reach the grim milestone of one COVID-19 death for every 500 people by Sept. 17 or 18.
If the average number of new COVID-19 deaths per day is 1,000, then the milestone would be reached by Sept. 18 or 19. If the average daily increase in COVID-19 deaths is 1,500, then the “one in 500” milestone would be hit even sooner, by Sept. 16 or 17.
In conclusion, based on the most up-to-date figures available, the U.S. was bound to reach the milestone of one COVID-19 death for every 500 people, within a few days of Sept. 14, when CNN published its report to that effect. The network’s substantive claim was therefore accurate, and we are issuing a rating of “True.” -
2021-09-16 at 7:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 May you
All
Go
And circumcise a gnat
SNOPES
Fact Checks
Health
Did 1 in 500 US Residents Die From COVID-19 by September 2021?
A total of nearly 664,000 people were lost to the virus in the United States by Sept. 14, 2021.
Dan MacGuill
Published 15 September 2021
Claim
By September 2021, one COVID-19 death had taken place for every 500 people living in the United States.
Rating
True
In September 2021, CNN reported that the United States had reached a bleak statistical milestone in the COVID-19 pandemic: As of Sept. 14, 2021, one in every 500 U.S. residents had died from the virus since the first recorded fatalities in early 2020. The network reported that:
The United States has reached another grim milestone in its fight against the devastating Covid-19 pandemic: 1 in 500 Americans have died from coronavirus since the nation’s first reported infection.
As of Tuesday night, 663,913 people in the US have died of Covid-19, according to Johns Hopkins University. According to the US Census Bureau, the US population as of April 2020 was 331.4 million.
It’s a sobering toll that comes as hospitals in the US are struggling to keep up with the volume of patients and more children are grappling with the virus. In hopes of managing the spread and preventing more unnecessary deaths, officials are implementing mandates for vaccinations in workplaces and masking in schools.
CNN’s extrapolation was based on the best official figures available at the time, and although there was a small degree of imprecision in the numbers, a COVID-19 death rate of one death for every 500 people would inevitably be achieved, if not by Sept. 14 itself, then within a matter of a few days. The substantive point of CNN’s article was therefore accurate, and we are issuing a rating of “True.”
On Sept. 14, Johns Hopkins did indeed report that a cumulative total of almost 664,000 people had died of COVID-19 in the United States. By the morning of Sept. 15, the figure had risen by 50, to 663,963, as shown below:
As CNN correctly reported, the most up-to-date official estimates from the 2020 census — published in August 2021 — showed that the population of the United States in 2020 was estimated to be 331.4 million (331,449,281 to be precise). Those figures — 663,913 deaths in a population of 331.4 million — yield a fatality rate of one COVID-19 death for every 499 people, which is actually a slightly worse death rate than the one in 500 reported by CNN.
However, the U.S. population is highly like to have grown between the 2020 census and September 2021. According to the U.S. Census Bureau’s population ticker, the total number of people living in the U.S. on Sept. 15, 2021, was estimated to be around 332.7 million:
Based on that number, and the slightly increased COVID-19 death total reported by Johns Hopkins on the morning of Sept. 15, the estimated fatality rate was one COVID-19 death for every 501 people — again, almost exactly the rate claimed by CNN.
Furthermore, in the days leading up to Sept. 14, the U.S. was adding an average of around 1,200 new COVID-19 deaths per day. Extrapolating roughly from that rate of increase, and the Census Bureau’s estimated rate of increase in the overall population (one person added every 25 seconds, or 3,456 added each day), then the U.S. would reach the grim milestone of one COVID-19 death for every 500 people by Sept. 17 or 18.
If the average number of new COVID-19 deaths per day is 1,000, then the milestone would be reached by Sept. 18 or 19. If the average daily increase in COVID-19 deaths is 1,500, then the “one in 500” milestone would be hit even sooner, by Sept. 16 or 17.
In conclusion, based on the most up-to-date figures available, the U.S. was bound to reach the milestone of one COVID-19 death for every 500 people, within a few days of Sept. 14, when CNN published its report to that effect. The network’s substantive claim was therefore accurate, and we are issuing a rating of “True.”
Tragic. Now only 499 out of 500 of us are left. We truly have survived a terrible thing. -
2021-09-16 at 7:52 PM UTCR eading comprehension issues still, Donald?
Too bad that you probably won't be able to watch this story on Faux News. -
2021-09-16 at 8:17 PM UTC
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2021-09-16 at 9:34 PM UTC
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2021-09-16 at 10:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Donald Trump You do know that whole "hospitals are secretly full of covid victims" shit has been debunked?
I've always wondered how many people in hospital for covid actually need to be there
turns out only around half (40-60% depending on the period) are ever recorded as having serious symptoms -
2021-09-17 at 5:47 AM UTCMaybe it might have been
A
Good idea to have gotten
A jab before I ended up in the hospital unable to breathe
The Daily Beast
Unvaxed Teen Councilman Who Attacked Mask Mandates Now Battling ‘Terrible’ COVID Pneumonia
Zoe Richards
A teenage city council member in Morgan County, Alabama, who tested positive for COVID-19 on Wednesday after railing against mask mandates said he’s now battling coronavirus-related pneumonia in the hospital.
“I am still shallow in breathing but my oxygen remains okay for now,” Decatur City Councilman Hunter Pepper, 19, wrote on Facebook Thursday. He received a CT scan on Wednesday night that confirmed he has COVID pneumonia, “which is absolutely terrible,” he wrote.
On Wednesday, Pepper—who’s repeatedly slammed mask mandates and refused to get vaccinated— said that he took two rapid tests and a PCR test for the coronavirus after he started to feel sick on Monday.
“Well, it has finally happened to me. Unfortunately, this morning I have confirmed two positive [tests] for Covid-19,” Pepper wrote Wednesday on Facebook. Everything In me wants to tell myself it is something different but every way I look it’s ‘Covid this, Covid that’ and it has terrified me and my family.”
Pepper wrote that he was “terrified” by the way that the media “continues to report on Covid-19 and explains ‘Death’ each time they do,” adding that he has “faith in the lord.”
“Maybe this will clear up soon and the symptoms of this sickness shall not progress as I can tell you, it feels terrible not to be able to breathe.”
He later told the Decatur Daily News that he had begun to show a “massive amount of symptoms” of the virus on Wednesday and that his oxygen levels were “holding a little well, and I don’t feel good at all.”
Pepper’s diagnosis has raised concerns over whether he may have exposed other local officials during a city council work session earlier in the week.
Carlton McMasters, a councilman who was seated beside Pepper at the in-person meeting, told the outlet that he has not had any symptoms.
“I’m fully vaccinated,” McMasters said, according to the outlet. “I’m trying my best to follow the CDC guidelines.”
Pepper, who is training to become an emergency medical technician, has routinely challenged pandemic-related restrictions as a city councilman, both slamming mask mandates and opting not to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, the outlet reported.
“I don’t believe you should be forced to do something like this, it’s wrong and it’s government overreach,” Pepper said in April as the city considered repealing a local mask mandate, according to WAFF.
“Me wearing a mask should be my choice,” Pepper said, days later, in an April 9 vote to end the city’s mask order, per WAAY.
Last month, Pepper, who became the youngest person elected to Decatur’s city council last year, vowed that he would “fight to the end” against another city mask mandate.
Only 41 percent of the county’s eligible population has been vaccinated, CDC data shows.
“Everybody at City Hall is over 18 and old enough to make their own medical decisions,” he declared at the time.
On Aug. 18, the Alabama Hospital Association said that there were “negative 29” ICU beds available in the state, meaning that dozens of people in the emergency room were kept waiting for beds to be vacated for treatment, WBRC reported at the time.
As the Delta variant ripped through the state over the summer, Alabama saw a massive COVID-19 spike, with more cases recorded in August than in any month since the pandemic began. -
2021-09-17 at 8:07 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I've always wondered how many people in hospital for covid actually need to be there
turns out only around half (40-60% depending on the period) are ever recorded as having serious symptoms
Yup.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/
Hospitals are overflowing because they were more or less shut down for a year due to fear mongers in the media. When you shut down healthcare it creates a massive delayed demand, as people need to get their cancers treated and their gender-reassignment surgeries done. And ICUs are always more than 80% full, no matter what, and A&Es are always a fucking disaster, and there is always an apparent shortage of beds, no matter that happens.
Covid is just a convenient excuse, and it gets clicks.
