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2021-09-08 at 3:31 PM UTCWear the damn mask.
We don't want to have to look at your face. -
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2021-09-08 at 3:50 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-09-08 at 3:55 PM UTCStl1 has been caught in so many lies it isn't even funny anymore.
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2021-09-08 at 3:57 PM UTCThat's funny!
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2021-09-08 at 8:13 PM UTC
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2021-09-10 at 2:35 PM UTCMaking
All
Get
A shot
USA TODAY
Who's covered by Biden's new vaccine mandates? When do they go into effect? Here's what we know.
Joey Garrison, Courtney Subramanian, Rick Rouan and Mabinty Quarshie, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden took his most aggressive action yet in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic Thursday, ordering employers with 100 or more workers to ensure their workforce is entirely vaccinated or face weekly COVID testing.
In an address to the nation in which he outlined a six-part plan, Biden said his administration also ordered that all federal employees and employees of government contractors must be vaccinated.
Many GOP governors have come out in opposition to Biden's orders and said they would file lawsuits once the orders go into effect.
Start the day smarter. Get all the news you need in your inbox each morning.
Here's what we know about the president's new plan to help fight the pandemic.
What did the Biden administration order and is vaccine mandate unconstitutional?
Biden said the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration would issue an “emergency temporary standard” that mandates employers with 100 or more workers require the vaccine or conduct weekly testing of unvaccinated employees.
The administration is also requiring employers with more than 100 employees to provide paid time off to allow workers to get vaccinated or recover if they are ill after the shot.
OSHA has the power to issue those standards until a permanent standard is developed when “workers are in grave danger” from exposure to toxic substances or agents or to new hazards, according to its website.
For example, in June, it issued an emergency temporary standard requiring health care employers to provide N95 masks and other personal protective equipment to some employees and ensure social distancing. The orders are subject to challenge in the U.S. Court of Appeals.
Who does the vaccine mandate cover?
The vaccine mandate covers all private employers with more than 100 employees, meaning it will generally apply to corporations and other large businesses. In all, more than 80 million workers are affected.
If workers choose not to be vaccinated, they would have to pass a weekly COVID-19 test to come to work.
Biden singled out some companies that already have vaccination requirements: United Airlines, Disney, Tyson Foods and “even Fox News.”
Who does it not cover?
Smaller private businesses with fewer than 100 people are not included in the mandate. However, Biden issued vaccination mandates for other workers as well. They include most federal government workers, all 17 million workers at nursing home facilities and hospitals that receive Medicare and Medicaid funds and staff of federal Head Start and Early Head Start programs.
In all, Biden said the mandates cover about 100 million Americans, or two-thirds of the U.S. workforce.
Biden also called for COVID-19- vaccines to be required to attend sports arenas, large concert halls and other venues where large groups of people gather. Yet he did not single out outdoor football games.
Who counts as a federal worker?
The vaccine order for the federal government requires all federal executive branch workers to be vaccinated as well as all employees of federal contractors.
It covers about 90% of approximately 4 million federal workers but does not apply to non-executive branch employees such as members of Congress or judicial employees.
In addition, the order covers federal departments and agencies that have already started to implement vaccination mandates: the military and other service members under the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Indian Health Service, and the National Institutes of Health.
Previously, Biden in July required federal employees show they have been vaccinated or undergo regular testing.
When will vaccine mandate start?
It was unclear on Thursday when exactly the requirements would take effect. OSHA is expected to issue the rule "in the coming weeks," according to the White House, and implementation could follow a timeline similar to those in the public and private sectors. In some cases, those have ranged from weeks to months.
The exact timeframe will be dependent on the rulemaking process.
What about HIPAA? How can employers ask for this?
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, know as HIPAA, prevents health care professionals from sharing private health information without the patient's permission. It does not apply to those outside of a health care setting, such as businesses and individuals, asking questions about a person’s vaccine status, experts say.
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission previously issued guidelines in May that allow employers to require on-site employees be vaccinated, provided they don't violate civil rights and disability laws. In July, the Department of Justice also announced that federal law does not prohibit federal agencies or private businesses from mandating vaccines.
What are the punishments for businesses that don’t comply?
Businesses that do not comply with Biden’s directive will face “substantial fines” up to $14,000, according to a senior administration official. The Labor Department's Occupational Safety and Health Administration will enforce the fine. -
2021-09-10 at 2:41 PM UTCJim Justice: This Republican governor NAILS it on anti-vaxxers
Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
For the last two weeks or so, I have been carrying around an anger bordering on rage regarding the chunk of Americans eligible to receive the Covid-19 vaccine who continue to refuse it.
I haven't been able to articulate that anger well. Or at least not as well as Gov. Jim Justice, the Republican governor of West Virginia did in a press conference this week.
It's worth quoting at length:
"For god's sake's a-livin', how difficult is this to understand? Why in the world do we have to come up with these crazy ideas -- and they're crazy ideas -- that the vaccine's got something in it and its tracing people wherever they go. And the same very people who are saying that are carrying their cell phones around. I mean come on. Come on."
Amen, Governor.
Justice's frustration, his anger and his puzzlement -- I share every single bit of it. Every. Single. Bit. (West Virginia currently ranks fifth nationwide in the numbers of cases per 100,000 residents, according to data maintained by The New York Times.)
Because this isn't about what political party you belong to. Justice, it's worth noting, was elected in 2016 as a Democrat but switched -- to much national hoopla -- to the Republican Party during the Trump presidency.
Getting a vaccine that is 90%+ effective in avoiding serious hospitalizations and deaths from Covid-19 has absolutely zero to do with how much you like or hate Donald Trump. Or Joe Biden. Or Jim Justice. Or any other politician in the country.
The idea that you can own the liberals or show the media or prove Dr. Anthony Fauci wrong by not taking the vaccine is a gamble -- one in which the stakes are your life. And not just your life; there are lots and lots of immunocompromised adults who can't be vaccinated. There are millions of kids under 12 -- including one in my house -- who can't be vaccinated yet.
If you don't want to do it for you, then do it for them.
Again, Justice: "The only weapon we have to fight back with is the vaccinations." Yes. Yes. Yes.
The Point: Listen to Justice. Please. -
2021-09-10 at 3:31 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Can you get COVID-19 if people around you are vaccinated?
Yes. This is why I stay away from all people. Anti vaxxers HURRR DURR TAKE OFF UR DIAPER YA COMMUNIST (telling someone to do something is literally communist but okay)
And the vaxxed JUST TRY IT ONCE BRO walking around with mutated genetics carrying all kinds of dirty viruses thinking they are supermen.
Society has reached a point of true disgust, pox and plague everywhere. I am unmutated and uninfected.
Anyone who gets sick or has mutated vaccine genetics should be gassed and burned.
you:
me:
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2021-09-10 at 5:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by stl1 Making
All
Get
A shot
USA TODAY
Who's covered by Biden's new vaccine mandates? When do they go into effect? Here's what we know.
Joey Garrison, Courtney Subramanian, Rick Rouan and Mabinty Quarshie, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — President Joe Biden took his most aggressive action yet in the fight against the COVID-19 pandemic Thursday, ordering employers with 100 or more workers to ensure their workforce is entirely vaccinated or face weekly COVID testing.
In an address to the nation in which he outlined a six-part plan, Biden said his administration also ordered that all federal employees and employees of government contractors must be vaccinated.
Many GOP governors have come out in opposition to Biden's orders and said they would file lawsuits once the orders go into effect.
Start the day smarter. Get all the news you need in your inbox each morning.
Here's what we know about the president's new plan to help fight the pandemic.
What did the Biden administration order and is vaccine mandate unconstitutional?
Biden said the Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration would issue an “emergency temporary standard” that mandates employers with 100 or more workers require the vaccine or conduct weekly testing of unvaccinated employees.
The administration is also requiring employers with more than 100 employees to provide paid time off to allow workers to get vaccinated or recover if they are ill after the shot.
OSHA has the power to issue those standards until a permanent standard is developed when “workers are in grave danger” from exposure to toxic substances or agents or to new hazards, according to its website.
For example, in June, it issued an emergency temporary standard requiring health care employers to provide N95 masks and other personal protective equipment to some employees and ensure social distancing. The orders are subject to challenge in the U.S. Court of Appeals.
Who does the vaccine mandate cover?
The vaccine mandate covers all private employers with more than 100 employees, meaning it will generally apply to corporations and other large businesses. In all, more than 80 million workers are affected.
If workers choose not to be vaccinated, they would have to pass a weekly COVID-19 test to come to work.
Biden singled out some companies that already have vaccination requirements: United Airlines, Disney, Tyson Foods and “even Fox News.”
Who does it not cover?
Smaller private businesses with fewer than 100 people are not included in the mandate. However, Biden issued vaccination mandates for other workers as well. They include most federal government workers, all 17 million workers at nursing home facilities and hospitals that receive Medicare and Medicaid funds and staff of federal Head Start and Early Head Start programs.
In all, Biden said the mandates cover about 100 million Americans, or two-thirds of the U.S. workforce.
Biden also called for COVID-19- vaccines to be required to attend sports arenas, large concert halls and other venues where large groups of people gather. Yet he did not single out outdoor football games.
Who counts as a federal worker?
The vaccine order for the federal government requires all federal executive branch workers to be vaccinated as well as all employees of federal contractors.
It covers about 90% of approximately 4 million federal workers but does not apply to non-executive branch employees such as members of Congress or judicial employees.
In addition, the order covers federal departments and agencies that have already started to implement vaccination mandates: the military and other service members under the Department of Defense, the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Indian Health Service, and the National Institutes of Health.
Previously, Biden in July required federal employees show they have been vaccinated or undergo regular testing.
When will vaccine mandate start?
It was unclear on Thursday when exactly the requirements would take effect. OSHA is expected to issue the rule "in the coming weeks," according to the White House, and implementation could follow a timeline similar to those in the public and private sectors. In some cases, those have ranged from weeks to months.
The exact timeframe will be dependent on the rulemaking process.
What about HIPAA? How can employers ask for this?
The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, know as HIPAA, prevents health care professionals from sharing private health information without the patient's permission. It does not apply to those outside of a health care setting, such as businesses and individuals, asking questions about a person’s vaccine status, experts say.
The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission previously issued guidelines in May that allow employers to require on-site employees be vaccinated, provided they don't violate civil rights and disability laws. In July, the Department of Justice also announced that federal law does not prohibit federal agencies or private businesses from mandating vaccines.
What are the punishments for businesses that don’t comply?
Businesses that do not comply with Biden’s directive will face “substantial fines” up to $14,000, according to a senior administration official. The Labor Department's Occupational Safety and Health Administration will enforce the fine.
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2021-09-10 at 7:12 PM UTC
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2021-09-10 at 7:23 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny doesnt apply to postal workers because they could go postal.
The USPS is independant and not a part of the Federal government, Vincent.
Still, I think they should come under the "The vaccine mandate covers all private employers with more than 100 employees, meaning it will generally apply to corporations and other large businesses. In all, more than 80 million workers are affected." clause. -
2021-09-10 at 7:31 PM UTCso they are gonna lay off 100 million people for not getting vaccinated? You can't just fire 1/3rd of the workforce and replace them all with vaccinated immigrants. The economy simply will not allow that to happen.
It's impossible to enforce. -
2021-09-10 at 8:39 PM UTCLet's mandate an experimental concoction that's already injured and killed thousands for a virus with a 99.97% recovery rate and a so-called vaccine that, admittedly, doesn't prevent transmission of the virus in any way, shape or form. That's how dumbed-down idiotic these imbeciles are.
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2021-09-10 at 8:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood so they are gonna lay off 100 million people for not getting vaccinated? You can't just fire 1/3rd of the workforce and replace them all with vaccinated immigrants. The economy simply will not allow that to happen.
It's impossible to enforce.
The tyrants and their clown posse demand they get personal exemptions from their own tyranny. Sound like communism? -
2021-09-11 at 9:23 AM UTC
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2021-09-11 at 6:56 PM UTCDeseret News
The CDC reveals how much the delta variant really infects fully vaccinated people
Herb Scribner
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released new data that showed how well the COVID-19 vaccines protect people from the coronavirus, specifically the delta variant.
How many vaccinated people got COVID-19 recently?
The study reviewed how COVID-19 spread from April 4 to July 17, which was when the delta variant becomes prominent among 13 states in the U.S.
Alabama, Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Los Angeles County (California), Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, New Mexico, New York City (New York), North Carolina, Seattle/King County (Washington) and Utah.
Here’s a breakdown of the COVID-19 numbers for those states:
Not fully vaccinated: 569,142 (92%) COVID-19 cases, 34,972 (92%) hospitalizations and 6,132 (91%) COVID-19–associated deaths.
Vaccinated people: 46,312 (8%) cases, 2,976 (8%) hospitalizations and 616 (9%) deaths.
The study said that during the specific time frame of April 4–June 19, fully vaccinated people accounted for 5% of total COVID-19 cases, 7% of COVID-19 hospitalizations and 8% of deaths overall.
These percentages were higher during June 20 to July 17 time frame, when fully vaccinated people accounted for 18% of cases, 14% of hospitalizations and 16% of deaths, per the CDC.
Does this mean the vaccine works?
This is about in line with expectations. According to the CDC, the 13 jurisdictions had a 37% vaccination rate. So the CDC expected fully vaccinated people to represent 6% of cases (which is close to the 5% observed) when vaccine efficacy is at 90%.
However, from June 20 to July 17, the CDC expected fully vaccinated people to represent 10% of cases — not 18%. The 18% number would have been expected if vaccine efficacy was at 80%.
The CDC said that the new study suggests people not fully vaccinated had five times higher chance of infection, 10 times higher chance of hospitalization and more than 10 times higher chance of death from COVID-19.
Earlier this week, the CDC said there were 12,908 severe COVID-19 breakthrough cases among fully vaccinated people, which resulted in hospitalization or death, according to CNN. Of course, 173 million people in the U.S. have been fully vaccinated against the novel coronavirus.
Per CNN, these numbers suggest you have about a 1 in 13,000 chance of having a severe breakthrough cases of COVID-19 when you’re fully vaccinated. -
2021-09-11 at 7:02 PM UTC"The CDC reveals..."
Stopped reading right there. Why would I care what an organization that has been caught again and again and again lying says? Well, no reasonable person would.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
