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Humans are a disease
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2016-04-11 at 5:59 AM UTCSpeaking from an adrenergic flooded and brain damaged, stimulant induced, comedown comeup and irrelevant point of view (since objectively the majority of the time I'm an illogical, egotistsical, drug addicted young fool), You are all parasites. And so am I. Aswell as Nelson Mandela, Charlie Manson, Richard Nixon, Aristotle, and your mom. We all have a holier-than-thou attitude against every organism, whether it be an amoeba (adolescents are top tier criblegbarg.
Anyone ever try butalbital?
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2016-04-11 at 6:03 AM UTC#amoebalivesmatter
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2016-04-11 at 10:52 AM UTCGerms don't build rocket ships. We are Gods of the universe and masters of nuclear power and space ∆.
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2016-04-11 at 3:16 PM UTCPeople are not what they appear to be, the three dimensional physical and mental reality we experience is an extension of hyperspacial beings / structures existing in higher dimensions, produced in a way metaphorically similar to the way we produce ideas and concepts expressed with words, except our reality is expressed with forces like gravity and magnetism and languages like mathematics and DNA sequences. You are a part of something beyond comprehension but metaphorically similar to a machine or program, an intricate structure the extends beyond the perceived boundaries of your identity. One day you will die and all your parts will be disassembled and repurposed by the machine and it doesn't even matter at all because you were never really you in the first place, you've always just been the machine except you thought you were a person.
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2016-04-11 at 5:28 PM UTCLies
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2016-04-18 at 1:26 AM UTCNo disease ever gave us Metaphysics or primacy of substance.
Plato was the real disease. -
2016-04-18 at 2:19 AM UTC
No disease ever gave us Metaphysics or primacy of substance.
Plato was the real disease.
He was probably speaking metaphorically. Humans doing humans things on Earth has metaphorical similarities to mold doing moldy things on a loaf of bread. You are right that humans have done a lot of stuff that seems a lot more significant than anything mold or some parasite has ever done, at least from a human perspective, but it's not like we willed ourselves or our ideas into existence. We owe our existence to those less complex lifeforms for surviving long enough to become humans. -
2016-04-18 at 7:28 AM UTCI admit there's an aesthetic in that which really appeals to me, the idea of a shared genealogy with "lower" organisms, a refusal of human exceptionalism and a sense of debt to our total ancestry, not just the human (and interesting human) subset
Still, to call a thing a parasite one needs to have a normative judgment of what is good for the greater organism (presumably the planet in this case?) and I reject the idea that all human forms of existence and expression are net-negative from some privileged perspective. Worth is imbued by consciousness, value is dependent on the subjective desire therefor, it's conceivable (although I think unlikely) that the net effect of humanity on the greater system is negative but a categorial proclamation that anything capable of consciousness (life) is parasitic is to misunderstand fundamental ideas of value and worth, a nihilism stemming not from a unflinching look at the human state but a nostalgic whim, a grasp at profundity where simpler human truths suffice. -
2016-04-18 at 7:34 AM UTC
Germs don't build rocket ships. We are Gods of the universe and masters of nuclear power and space ∆.
what's this 'we' business? the closest you came to nuclear power was blowing you house up in a failed meth synth -
2016-04-18 at 10:16 AM UTC
what's this 'we' business? the closest you came to nuclear power was blowing you house up in a failed meth synth
The fire was because we hacked the power meter in October and turned the stove on high before I left So when they turned it on there was a huge fire that burned through my wall into my room where I keep all my chemicals and they are like 50-60% gone I lost my entire life in that house.
There's still some red P, pseudoephedrine and solvents kicking around I might get it tonigjt
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2016-04-18 at 11:57 AM UTC
The fire was because we hacked the power meter in October and turned the stove on high before I left So when they turned it on there was a huge fire that burned through my wall into my room where I keep all my chemicals and they are like 50-60% gone I lost my entire life in that house.
There's still some red P, pseudoephedrine and solvents kicking around I might get it tonigjt
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2016-04-18 at 2:14 PM UTC
I admit there's an aesthetic in that which really appeals to me, the idea of a shared genealogy with "lower" organisms, a refusal of human exceptionalism and a sense of debt to our total ancestry, not just the human (and interesting human) subset
Still, to call a thing a parasite one needs to have a normative judgment of what is good for the greater organism (presumably the planet in this case?) and I reject the idea that all human forms of existence and expression are net-negative from some privileged perspective. Worth is imbued by consciousness, value is dependent on the subjective desire therefor, it's conceivable (although I think unlikely) that the net effect of humanity on the greater system is negative but a categorial proclamation that anything capable of consciousness (life) is parasitic is to misunderstand fundamental ideas of value and worth, a nihilism stemming not from a unflinching look at the human state but a nostalgic whim, a grasp at profundity where simpler human truths suffice.
Positive and negative connotations are subjective. Humans being metaphorically similar to something like mold or a parasite is not inherently negative, or positive. Just like a fallen rotting apple. Is it a bad thing the apple has mold growing all over it? No, that's just how the world works. Would it be better if the apple just stayed in pristine condition for ever? Maybe for some other animal, but only so they might find it and eat it. The apple is food, be it food for mold or birds or humans. It's the way of things and you can look at the way of things and see it as a good thing or a bad thing but that's subjective, the way of things is what it is and nothing more. If there are metaphorical similarities between humans and something like mold or whatever then whether or not that is a good or bad thing is subjective and ultimately irrelevant either way. -
2016-04-18 at 3:25 PM UTC
Speaking from an adrenergic flooded and brain damaged, stimulant induced, comedown comeup and irrelevant point of view (since objectively the majority of the time I'm an illogical, egotistsical, drug addicted young fool), You are all parasites. And so am I. Aswell as Nelson Mandela, Charlie Manson, Richard Nixon, Aristotle, and your mom. We all have a holier-than-thou attitude against every organism, whether it be an amoeba (adolescents are top tier criblegbarg.
Anyone ever try butalbital?
niggers are the disease -
2016-04-18 at 4:51 PM UTC
niggers are the disease
"We all have a holier-than-thou attitude against every organism"
We're all the disease. White people are just a different kind of symptom. -
2016-04-18 at 8:49 PM UTCHurt durr nihilistic rant.
The real disease is jedis man. -
2016-04-18 at 9:30 PM UTC
"We all have a holier-than-thou attitude against every organism"
We're all the disease. White people are just a different kind of symptom.
speak for yourself
niggers are the disease. white people are the cure -
2016-04-19 at 1:16 AM UTC
Positive and negative connotations are subjective. Humans being metaphorically similar to something like mold or a parasite is not inherently negative, or positive. Just like a fallen rotting apple. Is it a bad thing the apple has mold growing all over it? No, that's just how the world works. Would it be better if the apple just stayed in pristine condition for ever? Maybe for some other animal, but only so they might find it and eat it. The apple is food, be it food for mold or birds or humans. It's the way of things and you can look at the way of things and see it as a good thing or a bad thing but that's subjective, the way of things is what it is and nothing more. If there are metaphorical similarities between humans and something like mold or whatever then whether or not that is a good or bad thing is subjective and ultimately irrelevant either way.
Well that's kinda my point. Parasitism or disease implies that a host has interests and they are being violated by the parasite/disease somehow. We wouldn't call moss on a rock parasitic because rocks don't have interests. To call humans a disease is to imply there's something upon which we are a disease and I can find no suitable thing possessing the necessary structure to have interests to be undermined by us in a disease-like way. -
2016-04-19 at 1:21 AM UTCFuckin love Lannys above post. It drives the point that accurately and nessecarily differentiates disease from symbiosis.
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2016-04-19 at 1:58 AM UTC
Well that's kinda my point. Parasitism or disease implies that a host has interests and they are being violated by the parasite/disease somehow. We wouldn't call moss on a rock parasitic because rocks don't have interests. To call humans a disease is to imply there's something upon which we are a disease and I can find no suitable thing possessing the necessary structure to have interests to be undermined by us in a disease-like way.
not necessarily; plants are susceptible to parasitic conditions, bacteria, insects etc. and they have no desire or directive beyond just living. many people see the world as a single living 'collective' and I'd hazard to say humans are generally not a positive force on it.
