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Is Time An Illusion?
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2017-04-03 at 6:24 AM UTCHolya fuck I am confused
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2017-04-03 at 6:25 AM UTCThough I don't think I've made an incorrect statement thus far regarding the topic.
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2017-04-03 at 6:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by Captain Falcon I don't really understand the exact misunderstanding you have but let me explain how time and space are related (and how mass and motion factor into it)
You know the three dimensions of Space. You also know (at least in one direction), the temporal "dimension" of time. In your everyday life, these things are more or less constant; one meter from point A to point But is generally the same for all intents and purposes as one meter from point A to point C, regardless of what frame of reference you view it from.
But in actuality, space (let us ignore time for moment) is malleable. The classic visualisation looks something like this:
The grid is spacetime, and the heavier (more massive) an object is, the more it can distort spacetime around it. In this picture, imagine if two space racers start off parallel to each other outside of the "curve" caused by the golden ball. They start racing, still parallel, and pass through the gravity well, and one is closer to the golden ball than the other, and both go at the same exact velocity locally. Due to the curvature of spacetime, when they exit the gravity well, the racer closer to the mass will have technically traveled a longer distance than the one further away.
Now let's put in the component of time; if you put a clock on each racer, and start it at the same time, and set a finish line on the other end of the gravity well, due to this curvature, both racers, going at the same speed and parallel to one another, will find themselves arriving at the finish line after different lengths of time. This is effectively how time dilation comes to pass. Note that this is very simplified, but it's enough to gain a general understanding of the concept.
So you understand how mass factors into it. What about motion? Well first of all, you don't; mass has a more important role here.
Let's bring in the famous equation, e=mc²
e = energy
m = mass
c = the speed of light (also, this is the constabt of the equation; I'll explain in a minute)
You know this equation, but what does it mean, and how is meaningful to this discussion? Well, as it stands, we can say it means that the total energy of an object is its mass multiplied by the square of the speed of light. But let's do a little algebra:
e=mc²
e/m=c²
√(e/m)=c
If your mind is blown, congrats, you understand. If not, notice that for any given object, the square root of the energy of an object divided by its mass, equals the speed of light.
Additionally,
e=mc²
e/c²=m
To interpret this data, for a bunch of theoretical reasons, you can assume that everything is always "moving at the speed of light". We simply shift our velocity in relation to specific reference frames. And reconciling those two takes energy. As you introduce energy into your system, you increase the mass of the object. As you approach c, the mass approaches infinity, and the energy you must introduce to accelerate it also approaches infinity. So to put it shortly, going faster increases your mass, and thus contributes to the dilation of spacetime (and time as a subset of that) around you.
This is also why no massive object can ever reach c, because it would require infinite energy and attain infinite mass, and the only known object in the universe to attain infinite mass is yo mama.
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2017-04-03 at 6:32 AM UTCSpeed of light
Objective speed
Objective light
Objective of
Subjective of all those
Whats it MEEEN?
BY THE way I didn't ask for an explanation. I asked a yas or no question thank you. -
2017-04-03 at 6:39 AM UTC
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2017-04-03 at 6:41 AM UTC
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2017-04-03 at 6:41 AM UTCBut I'm sorry capt, I'm jus feeling ornery, I love you big boy. You da man
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2017-04-03 at 6:41 AM UTCdamn it's a tuesday and I masturbated what the heck
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2017-04-03 at 6:42 AM UTCLANNY! Get your act together, this isn't the general forums.
Aw shit. -
2017-04-03 at 6:50 AM UTCTFW when you're objectively more intelligent than space-time personified
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2017-04-04 at 1:47 PM UTC
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2017-04-04 at 5:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by Lanny P.S. Benny, stop shitposting, this isn't a general forum.
Originally posted by Lanny smug all over my mug baybe, I want your stuff on my face.
Also the world would probably be a better place if saying the word "MOON PERSON" struck the speaker dead on the spot.Originally posted by Lanny But I'm sorry capt, I'm jus feeling ornery, I love you big boy. You da man
Originally posted by Lanny damn it's a tuesday and I masturbated what the heck
Originally posted by Lanny LANNY! Get your act together, this isn't the general forums.
Aw shit.
ahemmThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2017-04-04 at 11:36 PM UTC
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2017-04-05 at 3:11 AM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver That's not what Bob Lazar told me over drinks.
Robert Scott "Bob" Lazar (/ləˈzɑːr/; born January 26, 1959) claims to have worked on reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology at a site called S4, in the Emigrant Valley and Old Kelley Mine area near the Area 51 test facility. Universities from which he claimed to hold degrees show no record of him.
though he does run United Nuclear which is.... something. I hadn't heard of them for years, their site still looks like it's from the early 2000s -
2017-04-05 at 3:37 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra though he does run United Nuclear which is…. something. I hadn't heard of them for years, their site still looks like it's from the early 2000s
I ran into him twice at the Pioneer Club on Freemont Street, in downtown Vegas, back on the 90's. The first time we got pretty hammered sitting at the bar and he gave me a tape of him and a hard copy of a publication titled "Operation Vampire Killer 2000".
I found a digital copy of the tape he gave me last month. I can't recall if I put it on YouTube or not. Of lot I'll try to remember to load it tomorrow.
Operation Vampire Killer 2000 can be found online with a bit of searching. It has nothing to do with Lazar's work bit it's a very interesting read. -
2017-04-12 at 9:42 PM UTC
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2017-04-12 at 10:14 PM UTC
Originally posted by Darth Beaver I think time is an illusion, a construct if man. I believe all moments have always and always will exist. But in this finite form of flesh we are only capable of experiencing those moments one at a time, in a serial fashion, and we are only capable of experiencing a given moment once in a lifetime.
That doesn't make sense at all. If all moments exist simultaneously and never stop existing, then why are we only ever experiencing the present, and why does our perception only go in one direction, and why would we only be able to experience each moment once? How do you explain relativity with that theory?
I think that time exists as a physical force, like gravity or electromagnetism. The fact that mass has a measurable effect on time is proof that it's something that can be interacted with in reality, not some abstract, imaginary construct of the human mind. -
2017-04-12 at 10:22 PM UTCTime is just a function of change, things are always changing, moving around, the contrast between the previous state and what is now is where the idea of time comes from. it is just 1 eternal moment differentiated from itself by the previous arrangements, if things change according to a set of rules then there could be predetermined outcomes in a material sense, but change could just happen at random too.
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