2021-05-30 at 3:30 AM UTC
A lot of people say the only way to handle your excessive drinking is to just give it up forever and write it off. But people who eat too much can learn to eat a healthier amount. Hemmy, I see that getting wasted every evening playing video games or watching tv, or burping and farting at the bar every night isn't a habit I want. But aren't there times it could be a useful tool for lubrication, or as a common drug-use to bond over, where the consequences are worth it?
What do you think jimmy
2021-05-30 at 3:54 AM UTC
I can't stop myself from drinking more oncew i start. Lots of alcoholics are like this, i am for sure.
Very few can restrain themselvers once they start, it's like a crack hit but slow burn style. IT'll kill you for sure too.
2021-05-30 at 4:06 AM UTC
aldra
JIDF Controlled Opposition
what is the point of sobriety, in and of itself?
societal issues aside, whether or not you use drugs is contingent on what you want to accomplish and whether said drug helps or hinders you. it's all about understanding consequences and balancing benefits
2021-05-30 at 4:07 AM UTC
psychoactive substances are a gift!
2021-05-30 at 7:37 AM UTC
i've tried all the hard drugs and cocaine and opiates never really "stuck" with me no matter how much i abused them
2021-05-30 at 8:01 AM UTC
thats whatsup, I'm glad it didn't stick with you.
I just finished
EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE: Why it can matter more than IQ and the author is Daniel Goleman
thats him. He shared some interesting insight about what types of personalities are drawn to certain types of drugs. I've never really been into e-books, I like reading a real piece of paper better than having something up in a PDF viewer, but it would be pretty useful to be able to use the search feature to lookup things like this without flipping pieces of paper.
I found what I was looking for, its in chapter 15;
alcoholCertain emotional patterns seem to make people more likely to find emotional relief in one substance rather than another. For example, there are two emotional pathways to alcoholism. One starts with someone who was high-strung and anxious in childhood, who typically discovers as a teenager that alcohol will calm the anxiety. Very often they are children -usually sons- of alcoholics who themselves have turned to alcohol to soothe their nerves. One biological marker for this pattern is undersecretion of GABA, a neurotransmitter that regulates anxiety -too little GABA is experienced as a high level of tension. … These sons of alcoholics drink to ease their tension, finding in alcohol a relaxation that they could not seem to get otherwise Such people may be vulnerable to abusing sedatives as well as alcohol for the same anxiety-reduction effect.
A neurophsychological study of sons of alcoholics who at age twelve showed signs of anxiety such as a heightened heart rate in response to stress, as well as impulsivity, found the boys also had poor frontal lobe functioning. Thus the brain areas that might have helped ease their anxiety or control their impulsiveness brought them less help than in other boys. And since the pre-frontal lobes also handle working memory -which holds in mind the consequences of various routes of action while making a decision- their deficit could support a slide into alcoholism by helping them ignore the long-term drawbacks of drinking, even as they found an immediate sedation from anxiety through alcohol.
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A second emotional pathway to alcoholism comes from a high level of agitation, impulsivity, and boredom. This pattern shows up in infancy as being restless, cranky, and hard to handle, in grade school as having the "fidgets," hyperactivity, and getting into trouble, a propensity that as we have seen, can push children to seek out friends on the fringe … As adults, people with this pattern ( which may be tied to deficiencies in two other neurotransmitters, serotonin and MAO) find that alcohol can soothe their agitation. And the fact that they can't stand monotony makes them ready to try anything; coupled with their general impulsivity, it makes them prone to abusing an almost random list of drugs besides alcohol.
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By the time students leave high school, over 90 percent have tried alcohol, yet only about 14 percent eventually become alcoholics; of the millions of Americans who experimented with cocaine, fewer than 5 percent became addicted.
cokeWhile depression can drive some to drink, the metabolic effects of alcohol often simply worsen the depression after a short lift. People who turn to alcohol as an emotional palliative do so much more often to calm anxiety than for depression; an entirely different class of drugs soothes the feelings of people who are depressed -at least temporarily. Feeling chronically unhappy puts people at greater risk for addiction to stimulants such as cocaine, which provide a direct antidote to feeling depressed. One study found that more than half the patients being treated at a clinic for cocaine addiction would have been diagnosed with severe depression before they started their habit, and the deeper the preceding depression, the stronger the habit.
opesChronic anger may lead to still another kind of susceptability. In a study of the most striking emotional pattern was a lifelong difficulty handling anger and a quickness to rage. Some of the patients themselves said that with opiates they finally felt normal and relaxed.
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2021-05-30 at 11:57 AM UTC
Sudo
Black Hole
[my hereto riemannian peach]
Well I am 100% of the first pathway to alcoholism, literally everything in it is me to a T.
The last time I was an alcoholic I was around a lot of people all the time and now I'm an angry bitter old junkie. I identify with people with addictions because it's all I know. I worry about my kids inheriting the traits I have as both my baby mammers have substance abuse issues. I crave cocaine and alcohol almost every single day but fight off the urges and die a little inside.
Thank you for this thread, I should read more books but I'm too busy/lazy/depressed. I'm on the brink of a self destructive cycle I can feel it. Thank you for your time
2021-05-30 at 12:09 PM UTC
Feeling chronically unhappy puts people at greater risk for addiction to stimulants such as cocaine, which provide a direct antidote to feeling depressed. One study found that more than half the patients being treated at a clinic for cocaine addiction would have been diagnosed with severe depression before they started their habit, and the deeper the preceding depression, the stronger the habit.
I agree that stimulants are a good tool to fight against depression. It's probably not the best tool but damn does it work well. SSRI shit fucks me up and I feel like a mass shooter.
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood
I owe a lot of the healing I experienced to illegal psychotropic drugs, fasting, sleep deprivation and meditation.
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2021-05-30 at 12:21 PM UTC
^I remember being really depressed for a long time, then staying up all night once and being amazed at feeling normal.
Originally posted by A College Professor
But people who eat too much can learn to eat a healthier amount.
Generally by eating different foods. It's harder to go from eating a whole pizza by yourself to eating just one slice than it is to just eat healthier and more nutrient dense foods.
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2021-06-05 at 4:49 AM UTC
Never stop drinking
The only way out is through
2021-06-06 at 10:54 PM UTC
I haven't drank in 23 days. gang gang
2021-06-06 at 11:25 PM UTC
AngryOnion
Big Wig
[the nightly self-effacing broadsheet]
Oh Boy were to begin.
Drugs are a god send to those in need of weed, booze, whatever.
Just don't do the drugs the "DR's" prescribe.
That shit will kill you.
Doctors are fucking retards they never do the drugs that they prescribe.
If I was a doctor I would do all the drugs I could get my hands on just so I could know EXACTLY how it works.
I have been prescribed Zoloft and it was bad real bad it almost cost me everything.
Jesus Christ that shit is not ok.
Then I got a new DR and he got me on a GABA synthetic called acamprosate calc this shit is bad.
I went off the rails on that one.
Now I just smoke some weed before bed and drink in moderation.
Eat heathy and exercise that's key folks.
2021-06-06 at 11:51 PM UTC
i really liked your post and can relate to it alot AngryONion except that instead of drink in moderation i do meth in moderation and smoke weed all day.
maybe one day i'll reach ur level but i'ts good to hear you're doing really well.
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2021-06-07 at 12:09 AM UTC
Wine, in moderation, is extremely good for your health and longevity.
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