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  1. Michael Cohen, a convicted criminal with a vendetta against Trump. Tons of credibility there!
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  2. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Making

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    A plea deal



    The New York Times
    Justice Dept. Starts to Seek Plea Deals in Capitol Riot Cases
    Alan Feuer


    The prosecutors overseeing the vast investigation into the riot at the Capitol this winter have started offering plea deals to defendants, several lawyers said, a significant step in advancing the inquiry into the attack.

    If many of the more than 400 defendants charged in connection with the Capitol attack on Jan. 6 plead guilty, it will relieve the Washington’s federal court of the burden of conducting scores of trials at once.

    The plea negotiations, which have largely been informal, are in an early stage, and as of late last week, only one defendant among hundreds charged had pleaded guilty. But many lawyers have recently acknowledged having private conversations with the government and have sought to determine how much prison time their clients might be willing to accept.

    “What’s going on,” said Gregory T. Hunter, who has represented several Capitol Hill defendants, “is a process of coming up with numbers that everybody hopes will fairly describe what people did.”

    The extension of plea deals, even on a large scale, is typical in a legal system in which the vast majority of criminal cases never reach a jury. The likelihood that many, if not most, of the more than 400 defendants charged in connection with Jan. 6 will eventually plead guilty will have an added benefit in Washington: It will relieve the city’s federal court of the burden of conducting scores of trials at once.

    The hashing out of plea deals will also force the government to grapple yet again with what has from the start been the central tension in the mass prosecution: the struggle to mete out justice on an individual level for the often intersecting actions of a mob.

    This week, prosecutors said in court that they would soon be offering plea deals to four men charged together with assaulting the police in a melee near the Senate wing entrance of the Capitol. But to draft the deals precisely, prosecutors will have to determine not only which of the men did what to which of the officers, but also how badly the officers were injured.

    By and large, the penalty ranges for federal crimes are set by law, although prosecutors have the discretion to ask judges to add more time to certain sentences for a variety of what are called enhancements. Defense lawyers say they expect the Justice Department will ultimately devise a standardized method for calculating plea deals in the numerous Capitol cases and establish “packages” that lay out preset offers for crimes like misdemeanor trespassing or felony assault.

    But that has yet to happen, and some lawyers have complained that the haggling over pleas has felt improvisational and at times confusing — like buying a used car.

    At a recent hearing for Richard Barnett, an Arkansas man perhaps best known for being photographed with his feet propped up on a desk in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office, prosecutors said that they had offered a deal that could result in a sentence of 70 to 87 months in prison. Mr. Barnett’s lawyer, Steven Metcalf, later said he was disappointed with the proposal and could not understand why the government was offering so much time to a man who had not broken anything nor hurt anyone inside the Capitol.

    “It seems like they’re actually trying to dissuade us defense attorneys from entertaining these offers as serious,” Mr. Metcalf said. “That’s how far off they are.”

    Others lawyers have taken a more generous position.

    Albert Watkins represents several Capitol riot defendants, including Jacob Chansley, the so-called QAnon shaman who breached the building in face paint and a horned fur hat, carrying a spear draped with an American flag. While Mr. Watkins declined to discuss the details of his conversations with the government, he said that prosecutors — after prodding — had started treating defendants individually, not as an undifferentiated mass.

    At a recent hearing for Richard Barnett, above, photographed in Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office, prosecutors said they had offered a deal that could result in a sentence of 70 to 87 months in prison.

    “The dialogue we originally heard was, ‘Hang everyone from the nearest tree,’” Mr. Watkins said. “But there has been a shift. Now the government’s position seems to be that a lot of these cases are something less than genuine attempts to overthrow democracy.”

    The Justice Department declined to comment on how many plea deals have been offered or how the department has decided who receives them.

    The negotiations over wrapping up cases before trial have come as some defendants and their lawyers have decided to fight their cases, attacking the legal viability of certain charges that many people face. At least two defendants — a Texas florist and a Florida-based member of the far-right group the Proud Boys — have filed motions to move their cases out of Washington.

    The only defendant to have publicly accepted a plea deal is Jon Schaffer, a guitarist and songwriter for the heavy metal band Iced Earth who prosecutors say is also a member of the militia group the Oath Keepers. At a hearing in April, Mr. Schaffer admitted to entering the Capitol with a canister of bear spray and engaging in “verbal altercations” with police officers. As part of his guilty plea, he agreed to cooperate with prosecutors, possibly against some of the 12 other members of the Oath Keepers also facing charges.

    According to court filings, at least one other Capitol defendant — Douglas Jensen, a QAnon believer who was among the first to break into the building — is in formal discussions with the government about a plea deal with a deadline to be completed next month.

    While prosecutors may be having informal conversations with other lawyers and their clients, A.J. Kramer, the chief of Washington’s federal defenders’ office, which is representing dozens of defendants, said that no one on his staff had received a written offer from the government.

    Still, discussions about the offers — who might get them and how much they might be — are rampant among the few dozen Capitol Hill defendants being housed together on pretrial detention in the same unit of the District of Columbia jail, said one lawyer who spoke on the condition of anonymity so as not to betray his clients’ confidence.

    The jailed defendants — who are mostly those in extremist groups or who have been accused of attacking the police — have been trading legal tips with one another, the lawyer said. Some, he said, have been considering a protest plan to fire their private lawyers and try to get the federal defenders’ office to represent them, thus ensuring that the government would have to pay for their defense.

    To Mr. Hunter, all of this indicates how difficult it has been to prosecute more than 400 people essentially at once. While plea deals are the best, or perhaps the only, way the system can function without overloading, the process has not been easy.

    “Everyone is trying hard,” Mr. Hunter said, “but we’re pretty much making it up as we go along.”
  3. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    MSNBC
    “Anonymous” author Miles Taylor says next Thursday a group of prominent Republicans will announce a new common-sense coalition in…
    Duration: 05:38


    Miles Taylor tells Lindsey Reiser and Kendis Gibson that next Thursday, the day after the vote to oust Liz Cheney, a group of prominent Republicans, ex-Republicans and Independents will announce a “resistance of the rationals against the radicals in the GOP.”


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/anonymous-author-miles-taylor-says-next-thursday-a-group-of-prominent-republicans-will-announce-a-new-common-sense-coalition-in-american-politics/vi-BB1gvmQE?ocid=msedgdhp
  4. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    The Washington Post
    Liz Cheney’s months-long effort to turn Republicans from Trump threatens her reelection and ambitions. She says it’s only beginning.
    Michael Scherer, Josh Dawsey, Dan Lamothe


    Rep. Liz Cheney had been arguing for months that Republicans had to face the truth about former president Donald Trump — that he had lied about the 2020 election result and bore responsibility for the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol — when the Wyoming Republican sat down at a party retreat in April to listen to a polling briefing.

    The refusal to accept reality, she realized, went much deeper.

    When staff from the National Republican Congressional Committee rose to explain the party’s latest polling in core battleground districts, they left out a key finding about Trump’s weakness, declining to divulge the information even when directly questioned about Trump’s support by a member of Congress, according to two people familiar with what transpired.

    Trump’s unfavorable ratings were 15 points higher than his favorable ones in the core districts, according to the full polling results, which were later obtained by The Washington Post. Nearly twice as many voters had a strongly unfavorable view of the former president as had a strongly favorable one.

    Cheney was alarmed, she later told others, in part because Republican campaign officials had also left out bad Trump polling news at a March retreat for ranking committee chairs. Both instances, she concluded, demonstrated that party leadership was willing to hide information from their own members to avoid the truth about Trump and the possible damage he could do to Republican House members, even though the NRCC denied any such agenda.

    Those behind-the-scenes episodes were part of a months-long dispute over Republican principles that has raged among House leaders and across the broader GOP landscape. That dispute is expected to culminate next week with a vote to remove Cheney from her position as the third-ranking House Republican.

    At issue: Should the Republican Party continue to defend Trump’s actions and parrot his falsehoods, given his overwhelming support among GOP voters? Or does the party and its leaders need to directly confront the damage he has done?

    “She just believes he’s disqualified himself by his conduct, more than it’s any kind of political analysis,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.). “If you look at a political analysis, there’s no way this party is going to stay together without President Trump and his supporters. There is no construct where the party can be successful without him.”

    Cheney and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) had come down on opposite sides of the divide, undermining the party’s efforts to put on a united front. Even before the riot, when McCarthy was calling on Republicans to “not back down” after the election, Cheney had quietly organized an essay by 10 former defense secretaries declaring the election results settled and warning the military not to be involved in Trump’s election protest.

    She was shocked when McCarthy signed on to an amicus brief in a Texas case seeking to overturn the election, after he’d told her in a private conversation that he did not plan to, according to a person familiar with the conversation. More recently, she has sought to undermine McCarthy’s efforts to dilute the potency of a congressional inquiry into the Jan. 6 riot. McCarthy wants to broaden the inquiry’s scope to include antifa and Black Lives Matter violence, as well as the slaying of a Capitol Hill police officer in April.

    McCarthy and many of his House colleagues, who don’t see a clear path to victory without Trump’s support in 2022, reached a breaking point in recent days.

    “I’ve had it with her,” McCarthy told a reporter for Fox News on Tuesday, in a remark caught on a live microphone. “You know, I’ve lost confidence.”

    At the root of the collapse in relations, according to interviews with more than a dozen people involved, most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations, was a fundamental misunderstanding of Cheney’s position. Her determination to name, shame and banish Trump — and her refusal to follow McCarthy’s pleas to move on and display unity — had become fundamental to her political purpose, not just a position she could compartmentalize.

    She has been willing to sacrifice her House leadership ambitions and put at risk her reelection hopes, allies say, to try to push the party away from the former president. After McCarthy visited with Trump in January in an effort to broker a truce that he hoped could pave the way for a Republican takeover of the House — and, potentially, McCarthy’s speakership — she called McCarthy out for backing away from earlier saying the former president “bears responsibility” for the riot.

    Liz Cheney slams Trump's 'big lie' claim

    Even if she is cast out of power in the House, she has made clear that she will not stop, promising to take her argument against Trump to the campaign trail in Wyoming, where he garnered 70 percent of the vote in 2020. She has told others that blocking Trump from leading the party is a fight she sees as just beginning, no matter how Wednesday’s vote goes.

    “The Republican Party is at a turning point,” Cheney wrote Wednesday in a Washington Post op-ed, “and Republicans must decide whether we are going to choose truth and fidelity to the Constitution.”

    That is a remarkable statement from a Republican conference chairwoman, whose job description requires her to develop, coordinate and elevate the party’s communications strategy against Democrats, which she has continued to do at times with far less fanfare. Cheney and McCarthy declined to speak for this story.

    Even before the Jan. 6 riot, she had been working to stem the threat she saw in Trump.

    “She called me and said, ‘You know, I’m really worried about this. What should we do?’ ” said former U.S. Ambassador Eric Edelman, who worked with her to write the essay by the former defense secretaries. “Liz was a prime mover of the whole thing, really.”

    Working closely with her father, former vice president Richard B. Cheney, the congresswoman volunteered to recruit Jim Mattis, the former Marine general who had served as Trump’s first defense secretary; Leon Panetta, who served as defense secretary in the Obama administration; and Donald H. Rumsfeld, who was defense secretary while her father was vice president, Edelman said.

    The opinion piece also warned the military that any involvement in election disputes was dangerous. Richard B. Cheney’s role in organizing the defense secretaries soon became public, but the congresswoman’s role was kept quiet at the time.

    The backlash to Liz Cheney’s focus on Trump has been fierce. As recently as Monday, Trump met with his advisers in Florida to discuss 2022 endorsements, according to people familiar with the meeting. One of Trump’s major priorities was to pick a single candidate from the ever-expanding ranks of Republican rivals in Wyoming who are seeking to run against her, so the anti-Cheney vote is not divided. Trump political advisers have already begun making calls to officials in Wyoming, circulating polling memos and meeting with potential candidates. Jason Miller, a Trump spokesman, said knocking off Cheney was “one of the highest priorities as far as primary endorsements go.”

    Opponents said the relentlessness of Cheney’s criticism after her vote for Trump’s impeachment has aggravated her ideological colleagues.

    “When you’re in leadership, you don’t just get to speak for yourself,” said one McCarthy adviser, explaining the exasperation over her approach. “She voted against him, she had her say, and the leader supported her. But now it’s every single day.”

    Other Republicans said they felt Cheney was not interested in raising money for candidates who backed Trump — an expectation for someone in leadership — and that her continued comments were forcing Republicans to constantly be ensnared in Republican warfare. They note that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who shares much of Cheney’s views, has largely stayed silent even as he tries to maneuver the party away from Trump.

    Just three months ago, McCarthy had expressed optimism that the conflagration could be avoided. At a closed-door Feb. 4 meeting of Republican members, Cheney’s colleagues debated her Trump criticism and then voted 145 to 61 to keep her in position as their top messenger. She emerged from that meeting with a show of unity.

    “It was a very resounding acknowledgment that we need to go forward together and we need to go forward in a way that helps us beat back the really dangerous and negative Democrat policies,” she told reporters of the vote to support her.

    A beaming McCarthy stood nearby.

    “This Republican Party is a very big tent and everybody is invited in,” he said. With Cheney in the leadership team, he promised to win the majority in 2022.

    McCarthy at that point had spent weeks resisting pressure from both Trump supporters and antagonists for an internal showdown. Trump himself had pressed McCarthy to remove Cheney from leadership in one of the final conversations of Trump’s presidency, goading McCarthy by saying that she wanted to take his job, said people familiar with the conversation.

    At the same time, McCarthy had courted Trump’s favor, traveling weeks after the Capitol riot to meet with him in Mar-a-Lago, the decision Cheney cited as a major error. His goal: To keep Trump from starting a third party, or going against Republican incumbents.

    But just days after Republicans voted to keep Cheney in leadership, it became clear that the two sides had not agreed on what her forthcoming role would be.

    In a Feb. 7 appearance on Fox News Sunday, she leaned into her complaints about Trump’s election denial and role in the riot, even suggesting that he should be investigated by prosecutors for the possibility that he intended to incite an attack against Vice President Pence.

    “This is not something that we can simply look past, or pretend didn’t happen, or try to move on [from],” she told host Chris Wallace. “We’ve got to make sure this never happens again.”

    Repeatedly, over the following weeks, Cheney highlighted the divisions McCarthy was trying to dampen. At a Feb. 24 news conference by Republican leaders at the Capitol, a reporter asked McCarthy whether Trump should be invited to the upcoming Conservative Political Action Conference.

    “Yes, he should,” McCarthy replied immediately.

    When Cheney followed by saying Trump should have no role in leading the party or the country, the number two in the House, Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), who was standing next to them, shook his head. McCarthy struggled to maintain a stone face.

    “On that high note, thank you all very much,” McCarthy finally ad-libbed, ending the event.

    He confronted her privately afterward during a meeting in his office. People whom the two leaders have spoken to about that conversation do not agree on what was said behind closed doors. Some briefed on the exchange have been told that McCarthy told Cheney not to contradict him again. Others said it was a conversation about the threat Trump posed to the Constitution, without any ultimatum. The two have only spoken since in group settings, according to people close to both of them.

    Weeks later, Cheney traveled to Orlando for an event designed to showcase the party’s strategy for taking out Democrats in 2022, but the story soon shifted to internal division. Before the conference even began, she announced to laughter from reporters that she had not invited the former president, even though she did not plan the speaker slates.

    The debate over Trump’s potentially negative impact on swing districts is likely to escalate in the coming months, as vulnerable Republicans try to position themselves for reelection.

    The internal NRCC poll partially shared with lawmakers in April found that President Biden was perilously popular in core battleground districts, with 54 percent favorability. Vice President Harris was also more popular than Trump, the poll showed. Biden’s $1.9 trillion covid stimulus plan and his $2.3 trillion jobs and infrastructure package both polled higher than the former president’s favorability, which was at 41 percent, compared to 42 percent in February.

    A person familiar with the polling presentation said many details from the battleground poll did not make it into the NRCC’s 30-minute address in Orlando.

    “We gladly share any and all information with the members of our conference, which is evidenced by the unfortunate fact The Washington Post has an internal poll,” NRCC spokesman Michael McAdams said in a statement about the polling results.

    McCarthy has never rescinded his statement after the Capitol riot that Trump had responsibility for not quickly calling off the Jan. 6 protesters, although he later watered that down and said the rest of the nation also bore responsibility. But he has been unwilling to dwell on his past criticism as he courts Trump’s cooperation. In March, McCarthy hired Brian Jack, a former senior adviser to Trump, to run his political office.

    McCarthy has also continued to speak with Trump, even as Trump grumbles about McCarthy’s leadership to his advisers. Trump has at times threatened to other advisers that he will attack McCarthy for not doing more to sideline Cheney, according to people familiar with the conversations. In public, however, Trump has been more supportive.

    “I’m working with everybody, including Kevin McCarthy,” Trump said in an April 19 appearance on Fox News. “I’m taking back the House.”

    In late April, around the time of the Orlando event, McCarthy told Trump that Cheney would likely be removed from her position in leadership, according to an adviser with knowledge of the conversation. The former president told others he wasn’t sure it would happen.

    For her part, Cheney has continued to maintain that she will win reelection in Wyoming, where she has been censured by the state Republican Party for supporting Trump’s impeachment earlier this year.

    Her path forward, however, is becoming less clear. She passed up a campaign for Senate in 2020, choosing to stay as House Conference chair, a job her father had held between working for four Republican presidents in the White House and Defense Department. The goal many assumed she had, Speaker of the House, now appears out of reach in at least the short term.

    She has recently told others that she believes the voters of Wyoming will ultimately reelect her, understanding that assaults on constitutional processes like elections cannot be accepted.

    But even her reelection, a much lower ambition, may require a transformation in the Republican Party away from its current dependence on and adoration of Trump.

    In early February, the last time Republicans gathered to determine her fate, she was the one to demand a formal vote on whether she stayed in her leadership position. She is expected to make the same demand on Wednesday, forcing her Republican colleagues to once again confront the former president’s role in a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol — at least privately.

    “The choice is so clear,” said one Cheney ally. “Is it okay to be in leadership and tell the truth? That is what members are going to have to weigh in on.”
  5. Wow! That one was so long I really didn't read it!
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  6. POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    if you go against trump we are going to come take care of you


  7. Biden has killed 169,119 people.
  8. Originally posted by Donald Trump

    Biden has killed 169,119 people.

    What a murderer.
  9. Ghost Black Hole
    wtf he's literally hitler
  10. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Making

    All patriots

    Grovel

    After Trump



    Newsweek
    Trump Presidency 'Worst Four Years' Ever for GOP, Says Republican Gov. Larry Hogan
    Jason Lemon


    Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, a Republican, slammed former President Donald Trump's tenure in the White House, describing it as the "worst four years" the GOP has "ever" experienced.

    Maryland Governor Larry Hogan, a Republican, said that the GOP had its "worst four years" ever under former President Donald Trump in a Sunday interview with NBC News.

    Despite being a Republican, Hogan was a frequent critic of Trump throughout his presidency. As many GOP lawmakers backed the former president's false claims that the 2020 election was stolen, Hogan pushed back against Trump and urged him to concede the election to President Joe Biden.

    In a Sunday interview with NBC News' Meet the Press, the Maryland governor explained why he believes the former president was harmful to his political party.

    "I think we've got to get back to winning elections again, and we have to be able to have a Republican Party that appeals to a broader group of people. And we have to get back to having a bigger tent as [former President Ronald] Reagan talked about and not continuing to—look, we had the worst four years we've had, ever, in the Republican Party [under Trump]," Hogan said.

    The Republican governor pointed out that Republicans lost "the White House, the House of Representatives and the Senate."

    "Successful politics is about addition and multiplication, not subtraction and division," he said.

    Hogan also criticized House Republicans who appear set to remove Representative Liz Cheney, a Wyoming Republican, from her leadership role due to her repeated criticism of Trump. Cheney was one of the 10 House Republicans to vote with Democrats to impeach the former president after he allegedly incited his supporters to attack the U.S. Capitol on January 6 in a bid to overturn Biden's election victory.

    "I think they're concerned about retaliation from the president. They're, they're concerned about, you know, being attacked within the party," Hogan said of House Republican efforts to oust Cheney as the chair of House Republican Conference. "It just bothers me that you have to swear fealty to the 'dear leader' or you get kicked out of the party, it just doesn't make any sense."

    Hogan said that the opposition to Cheney and other Republicans critical of Trump is "sort of a circular firing squad where we're just attacking members of our own party." The governor remarked that Republicans should instead be "focusing on solving problems or standing up and having an argument that we can debate the Democrats on some of the things that the Biden administration is pushing through."

    When Trump took office in 2017, Republicans controlled the House, the Senate and the White House. But as Hogan pointed out, the GOP went on to lose the House in the 2018 midterm elections. Then in 2020, Democrats took control of the White House and subsequently secured narrow control of the Senate in a January runoff held in Georgia. Despite this record of losing under Trump, Republican leaders appear to be aligning themselves more closely with the former president.

    Meanwhile, Trump continues to repeatedly take aim at Republicans he views as disloyal or not sufficiently loyal to him. Jason Miller, a spokesperson for Trump, told The Washington Post in an interview published Saturday that the former president views unseating Cheney in 2022 as "one of the highest priorities as far as primary endorsements go." Trump has also slammed former Vice President Mike Pence, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and the Republican lawmakers who backed his impeachment.

    But a significant number of Republican voters continue to support Trump. A Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted at the end of March showed that about 6 in 10 GOP voters want Trump to run for reelection again in 2024. The same amount of Republican voters said they believed the baseless conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was "stolen."
  11. POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    ITS VERY QUIET ON THE CONSPERIOCY CHANNELS RIGHT NOW, I DON'T LIKE IT,, its spooky
  12. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    I put the word out that you were secretly anti-Trump and are an FBI informant.

    Good luck with that!
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  13. Originally posted by Ghost wtf he's literally hitler

    Joe "one man holocaust" Biden
  14. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Business Insider
    House GOP campaign officials withheld poor Trump poll numbers from lawmakers at recent Florida retreat: report
    insider@insider.com (John L. Dorman)



    The NRCC failed to disclose bad Trump polling data at a House GOP retreat, per The Washington Post.
    The numbers in several battleground districts showed poor favorability ratings for Trump.
    In the districts that were polled, Biden and Harris both received higher marks than Trump.

    The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) did not disclose internal polling that revealed dismal numbers for former President Donald Trump in key swing districts during the House GOP retreat in April, according to two sources who spoke with The Washington Post.

    During a presentation at the Florida retreat, NRCC staffers reportedly withheld the information even when pressed by a member of Congress regarding Trump's support.

    The polling data showed Trump's favorability ratings underwater, with his unfavorable ratings 15 points higher than his favorable numbers, according to The Post.

    In the districts that were polled, President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris had better numbers than Trump, The Post noted.

    House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who is facing the possibility of being removed from her leadership role for her criticism of Trump's influence over the party, was reportedly "alarmed" by the lack of transparency in revealing the former president's polling data.

    Cheney was taken aback, in part, because Trump's lackluster poll numbers were also withheld from ranking committee chairs during a March retreat.

    The NRCC reportedly denied that they sought to keep the polling information away from members, but Cheney saw it as another way that the GOP was seeking to ignore the truth about Trump's possible drag on the party.

    Cheney, who boasts a decidedly conservative voting record, was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump for his role in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.
  15. Bradley Florida Man
    Originally posted by stl1 Business Insider
    House GOP campaign officials withheld poor Trump poll numbers from lawmakers at recent Florida retreat: report
    insider@insider.com (John L. Dorman)



    The NRCC failed to disclose bad Trump polling data at a House GOP retreat, per The Washington Post.
    The numbers in several battleground districts showed poor favorability ratings for Trump.
    In the districts that were polled, Biden and Harris both received higher marks than Trump.

    The National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) did not disclose internal polling that revealed dismal numbers for former President Donald Trump in key swing districts during the House GOP retreat in April, according to two sources who spoke with The Washington Post.

    During a presentation at the Florida retreat, NRCC staffers reportedly withheld the information even when pressed by a member of Congress regarding Trump's support.

    The polling data showed Trump's favorability ratings underwater, with his unfavorable ratings 15 points higher than his favorable numbers, according to The Post.

    In the districts that were polled, President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris had better numbers than Trump, The Post noted.

    House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney of Wyoming, who is facing the possibility of being removed from her leadership role for her criticism of Trump's influence over the party, was reportedly "alarmed" by the lack of transparency in revealing the former president's polling data.

    Cheney was taken aback, in part, because Trump's lackluster poll numbers were also withheld from ranking committee chairs during a March retreat.

    The NRCC reportedly denied that they sought to keep the polling information away from members, but Cheney saw it as another way that the GOP was seeking to ignore the truth about Trump's possible drag on the party.

    Cheney, who boasts a decidedly conservative voting record, was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump for his role in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

    I haven't been keeping up with the stop the steal post mortem 6 months later rally but y'all really really delusional if youre focus is anything beyond regaining majority in the Senate in 2022.

    Like understand I sell fish tanks to conservative white folks, to asian men, two black men, 1 half jedi and his gf, I know 4 Mexicans. I politic with all of them.

    All of us except for 3 super fringe / (they were nuts before the election) white males think this shit is retarded.
  16. Bradley Florida Man
    I mean no offense Stl1 & husband the Polecat.

    I understand why you feel this data is relevant and believable. Human nature is to believe things that align with previous compiled data/assumptions/beliefs. It's hard to convey and likely impossible to convince anyone but if you were to enter this mental arena tabula Rosa , and pulled in all the data, you would not have the position you currently do. It's as I said before self fulfilling nonsense.

    Trump could defecate in his own hand, slap you in the face sand tell you it was the Clinton Foundation and you dumb nuggets would bitch about being shlapped with shit by Hilary.
  17. Originally posted by Bradley Trump could defecate in his own hand, slap you in the face

    I bet you'd enjoy that.
  18. stl1 Cum Lickin' Fagit
    Business Insider
    'It makes us look like idiots': Arizona state senator disowns widely-criticized election recount after seeing it in action
    tporter@businessinsider.com (Tom Porter)


    An Arizona state senator has described the Maricopa County vote recount as "ridiculous."

    Paul Boyer, a Republican, voted in favor of the recount, but said the reality is an embarrassment.

    Observers say auditors are working in a chaotic way, often driven by conspiracy theories.

    A GOP state senator in Arizona described the controversial vote recount in Maricopa County as "ridiculous" and an embarrassment in comments to The New York Times.

    Paul Boyer, a Republican who represents a suburb in Phoenix, told the publication that he initially supported and voted for the recount, but regrets doing so after seeing how poorly it is being conducted.

    "It makes us look like idiots," Boyer told the publication. "Looking back, I didn't think it would be this ridiculous. It's embarrassing to be a state senator at this point."

    The recount was commissioned by the Republican-led state legislature, who say that they are investigating whether the vote was tainted by fraud.

    Former President Donald Trump has said that the election was stolen from him last year as a result of mass fraud, a baseless claim which has been rejected in numerous court cases.

    Democratic candidate Joe Biden won in Maricopa County and the wider state of Arizona in November 2020, a result which surprised and enraged Republicans who had been banking on Arizona voting for Trump.

    The county and state also elected a Democrat, Mark Kelly, to the US Senate.

    Last week, observers of the recount appointed by the Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, a Democrat,said the recount was being conducted in a sloppy and haphazard way.

    They noted that there were no clear procedures in place to ensure the integrity of the recount, or record the result of the recount in a secure and accurate way.

    They said that those conducting the recount appeared to be seeking to verify conspiracy theories about mass fraud, using UV lights and other unproven technology to do so.

    Hobbs has expressed concern that the recount could be used as a template to undermine other legitimate election results. The US Department of Justice has also objected to the execution of the audit.

    The process is being conducted by Cyber Ninjas, a firm whose founder has expressed support for Trump's election fraud claims.
  19. POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    they sound scared
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