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    I know totse was from Walnut Creek but NirvanaNet started in Berkeley with some geeky ass 80s computer nerds probably living off campus

    Just for funzies I typed in totse in the (maps) google search engine.

    it brought up this place which borders Berkeley

    601 San Pablo Ave, Albany, CA 94706
    hotsytotsyclub.com
    (510) 526-5986


    I wonder if that's a secret watering hole. I hear it's actually a popular local spot. And Yelp gives it a 4.5 star rating.

    I wonder when Leslie Claypool sings something about "The king of San Pablo" if he's talking about this place. He grew up just over the hill in LOL Sobrante!

    so what are you doing right now?
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    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THE GOOD OLD DAYS revised edition~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ...............................................................................

    > Bikers have been historically blamed for introducing [Meth] into the
    > psychedelic '60s, subsequently bringing down a whole Summer of Love with
    > violence and angst.

    Not by anyone who was all there.
    I lived in the Bay Area for many years, have quite a few friends in SF,
    Berkeley and Oakland who grew up surrounded by the 60's, shifts in the
    American perception, actual political resistance, LSD unleashed, art/music
    eruption, and finally the hippyTourist influx aka 'Summer of Love'.
    I will share with you their perspective on the Summer of Love, as they have
    told it to me.
    SF BAY AREA: Mid 60's:
    There were a lot of cool scenes going on everywhere, new ideas and
    approaches, stuff to do, people doing some original art/music and some
    fighting the good fight against the gov't, very busy, constructive,
    creative groups of people, very loosely connected, yet mutually
    inspirational....oh, yeah... and some GOOD ACID which seems to instill a
    sense of doubt in established worldView, which can lead to new modes of
    thought and expression in the proper enviornment. The Northern CA urban
    enviornment was, for many reasons, fertile ground for new thinking.

    WHEN the MediaCircus came to 'cover the story', they were avoided by anyone
    who was already busy, but they were gleefully conned and goofed on by local
    pranksters, and longWinded sideWays exhibitionists, who were NOT going to
    give these suckers an even break or a straight story....they'd never get it
    right anyway. MediaDorks proceeded to report wonderous, conflicting,
    spontaneous mindFucks and brainTeasers to the 'folks back East', and
    triggered a horrendous influx of teenage transcient population in '67, who
    trampled the fragile revolutionary social enviornment as it faded, wreaked
    havoc, panicked already confused cops, drew State heat, got reamed and
    fleeced by local business/landlords in bigCity fashion, fired up the
    competition for crumbs at the desperation level, having forgotten their
    wallet in the rush to escape materialism, and just basically went nuts
    blowing their collective mind on the good attitude and even better acid
    produced by locals, having a hell of a ride, for a few months or a year,
    then it was back East or MidWest, off to college, onward to work... sorry
    about the mess... butIwas REALLY FUCKED UP!!!

    Some local MotorCycling blue-class tattooed whiteBoys from the EastBay, and
    the Mission, got fat on their pre-existing marijuana trade boom, pill and
    powder sales... Demand was high... Heat was on... Money was green...
    They were there first.

    SOOOOOOOOO, 30 years of distorting a myth will yeild about equal measure of
    historical perspective to a nebulous tale of Paradise Not Found.

    Can you hitchike to paradise from the Middle Amerikan 60's with a soft
    thumb and a road map...? how can you tell if it has been stolen by the
    Grinch?

    There certainly was a brief American Renaissance centered in the mid-60's
    Bay Area, but the light moves on, and the inspiration was REAL, the hot
    thinkers, revolutionaries and artists had set about the life's work of
    transforming their visions into reality and by '67 they had left Haight St
    and Telegraph Ave to fight killer traffic on the hard roads of the American
    Assimilation.

    What was the Summer of Love...? A real mindblower for the folks who grew
    up in Centerville... AND the popularized consumer/tourist stage at the end
    of an interesting time.

    What ended the Summer of Love...bikers? drugs? Autumn? Who Cares?
    It was just OVER... all successful movements in the pluralistic American
    landscape end with assimillation they are CONSUMED, resistance is
    futile!... many things have never been the same, some folks never left,
    but the Summer ofLove was a suicide run... not even a Summer of Love could
    survive a Summer of Love

    Vintage drugWar propaganda from this era, especially *Speed*Kills!!*
    rhetoric is always fun to revive and mislead, and if you can throw in some
    Evil Shadow Biker Threat lurking in the Dark Side of flowerStomping pinkBoy
    paranoia...it's much more a creature feature than trying to unStuff boring
    tales of Chromosome damage and flying Linkletters.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL ABOUT SPEED is it built yet?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ...............................................................................

    BUILT FOR SPEED continues to retell the untold story again, here are some
    'details' on Meth

    >It is still legally produced in the U.S. under the trade name Desoxyn.

    RIGHT

    > Most often prescribed for weight loss,

    RHONG!!
    You're gonna have to do better than gain 200 extra lbs to extract a
    prescription for Methamphetamine from the Medikal Priesthood. Not even the
    Mexican Drs are selling those.

    >Over the counter ephedrine, or "white crosses," has taken the place of
    >pharmaceutical amphetamine as an easy-to-get alternative.

    "white crosses" refer to a type of pharmaceutical Methamphetamine no longer
    produced... There were alot of bootleg "white crosses" around into the
    late 70's which were usually amphetamine and sometimes Meth.
    Mini-thins and other OTC l-ephedrine tablets were intentionally produced as
    'white cross' lookalikes. Massive quantities of Ephedrine Mini-thins are
    sold OTC, but NOT as an alternative to amphetamine.... I would explain
    this, but it's a big secret!

    > What is often misunderstood is the relationship between speed and crystal
    >meth.

    POPeye had no idea of the depth of this confusion until he read the following:

    > The common reference to speed in the rave scene is the methamphetamine salt
    > (HCl powder), whereas "crystal" usually refers to the free-base form of
    > methamphetamine.

    POPi has only been to one RAVE which sort of meandered tenatively at the
    Berekeley Marina some years ago... He is not an expert on RaveSpeak...
    Nevertheless, no matter who you party with, what kind of music stirs you,
    or whatEVER blows your skirt up... You can NOT petition the LORD with
    prayer... or stabilize, metabolize, crystallize the freebase of
    Methamphetamine...

    The free-base form of Meth is a viscous, corrosive, oily substance... it is
    unstable, does not readily metabolize in bioSystems, and there is no market
    for it... It is best described as an 'intermediate'

    Alot of methUsers, especially out West, smoke it...they are smoking the HCl
    salt, NOT the freebase, you wouldn't want to try smoking the freebase, or
    diesel fuel, or inhale bus exhaust either.

    > Another form "Ice," a higher-grade, purer form of crystal meth is smoked...

    RHONG!!!
    Ice is a completely different chemical all together.
    ICE= 4-methylaminorex, U4Euh, etc. This substance has recently been the
    subject of comprehensive Eleusian research and report at ADC for anyone
    interested. Other information is detailed in several documents at
    hyperreal as well.

    >, a single hit creates a high that lasts for hours

    better not cough!

    > and several hits can wire a user for days.

    hmmmmm, these must be 'metric days'... or there could be some confusion
    over the definition of 'several'.. if one were to continue to take several
    hits every 6 to 8hrs, one could stay wired all the way to the bottom of
    the bag, and that could take several standard Earth days depending on
    bagDensity.

    > However, its high price prevents it from taking hold. A gram of "ice"
    >commands
    > about $5,000 on the street.

    WHOOOAAAAA, why didn't somebody say something beFORE!!!! BREAK OUT THE
    GLASS!!! No, forget it, go out and buy ALL NEW SHIT!!! Move over Bill
    Gates... Crank up the FUME HOOD !!!! Get the Dexatrim people on line.
    Call Mercedes Benz... Dig out E's CyaBromo FAQ.....SOMEBODY get me a
    Heritage Softail and and I want a BIG Screen Computer with GIGABYTE RAM!!!!
    Just CHARGE IT, we're puttin' it all on ICE!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~A TANGENT ON TANGENTS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ...............................................................................

    You never know when someone in hip boots, keeping a straight font, may take
    a shortCut through SighBur Space onto the great American Plane of
    conjecture, leaving a few suspicious piles of info that thump onto the
    deck, sounding just about right:

    > What is often misunderstood is the relationship between speed and crystal
    >meth.

    When this happens, I suppose we must ask ourselves, on what theorhetical
    landscape has this 'cluster' been deposited, in what atmospheric context
    are we to inhale it?

    Which SCI is it, anyway?

    SCI-ENCE: If you want to hang with the hard-core 'Academigos', they insist
    on data being rendered in the appropriate techno-speak and be provable,
    quantifiable, and repeatable, or at least FOOTnoted.

    SCI-CHOLOGY: Offers much more latitude to the researcher/writer... One can
    more easily start with a conclusion and work backwards, or begin with the
    data, then research the various interdisciplinary schools, translate to the
    suitable vernacular, and stretch toward the desired conclusion... However,
    acceptability of the results depends less on the work and more on the
    weight of the author. While charisma and salesmanship are a plus, stature
    and tenure are the real determiners of acceptance... One must also stay
    abreast of fashionable trends and internal politics if he wishes to express
    the facts accurately.

    SCI-ENTOLOGY: In it's primary sense as a model of interpreting reality,
    before it was co-opted by posed-modern, pulp-religions, the Jetsons, (his
    son) Elroy Hubburd, and a bewildered flock of investors. The information
    need only correspond to academic disciplines in so much as they are
    understood by the researcher. SCIENTOLOGICAL findings and data are
    therefore emitted as quantum in self-contained thought packets which
    utilize the Interactive worldView Protocol. Certain findings or discoveries
    may even require their own operating systems as they cannot be made to run
    on existing platforms. Referred to as Sci-fi by some, but is generally more
    lucrative.

    SCI-CHOTIC: Is absolute in it's subjectivity. Information is gathered and
    organized in such a way that is incomprehensible unless one is actually
    experiencing it in its full ambiguity. All theoretical constructs are
    fluid and temporal.

    But I digress, I believe we were attempting to unravel one of the ancient
    mysteries....

    > What is often misunderstood is the relationship between speed and crystal
    >meth.

    For this we shall access the Hi-Speed Zen Oracle, which replies:

    "All Crystal Meth is Speed, but not all Speed is Crystal Meth."

    that should cover it...

    If not:

    SPEED... strong stimulants that are NOT cocaine... ususally amphetamine,
    but also including Preludin (Phenmetrazine), Prolintane, etc... a long
    list of synthetic stimulants that could be begged, borrowed, stolen from
    the Konspiracy or synthesized at great peril and some difficulty in reeking
    druglabs.

    METHamphetamine is the "SPEED of choice" for most users... it is the
    longest acting amphetamine and has the fewest annoying side-effects for
    most people.
    AKA: N,a-Dimethylbenzeneethanamine, Methedrine(TM),Desoxyphedrine.
    AKA: Crank, Crystal, Crystal Meth, Water, Meth, goFast, Zip

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~APPLES, ORANGES, PC's, and MAC's~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ...............................................................................
    "Built for Speed" goes on to compare Meth with drugs that are considerably
    more active, and addresses the addiction factor

    > methamphetamine, (popular for its availability and price) has somehow
    > replaced MDMA and LSD as the perfect rave drug.

    the charactar of the scene must be changing for people to accept METH as a
    substitute for acid and X... something ELSE is going on, these drugs are
    NOT interchangable

    > A prominent opinion during the aftermath of the Los Angeles Summer of Love
    > was that speed killed the rave scene.

    Another Summer of Love trashed by speed, it IS possible for trends to wind
    down on their own... it's an entropy thing

    > One major misconception is the link between methamphetamine and ecstasy
    > [MDMA]. Ecstasy does not necessarily contain speed, yet both contain the
    > methamphetamine structure. While both have addictive potential, speed,
    > because of its dopamine ties, is much more profoundly addicting.

    This is misleading and over-generalized

    > Ecstasy has a definite link to the rave scene. In some places it is
    > synonymous. Speed too has been linked to the rave scene -- some say it
    > was the death of the ideal.

    > Other users bring up the fact that MDMA also has an addiction factor,
    > that many only attribute to meth. "I like speed just fine," says Benboy.
    > "But I have seen many speed freaks go...

    > revalent discussion between users on either side of the methamphetamine
    > argument involves addiction.

    METH IS ADDICTIVE, everyone agrees on that in psycho-pharmo-socio-SCI

    > "Drugs that don't have a major effect on dopamine generally aren't
    >'addictive'
    > in the same way -- Marijuana, MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, etc.

    Many will disagree, but I would say pot is somewhat habit-forming, the
    other three aren't, and there may be something to this dopamine theory, but
    why resort to difficult hypotheses for a straightforward addiction
    discussion

    > Misinformation sometimes is more dangerous than no information

    exactly my point

    > While meth (or any drug) is an inert substance

    not if it's made correctly..!! Perhaps 'innanimate' is the word he was
    looking for

    > that we cannot attribute blame to

    but we could be more critical with better information

    > by its nature it has raised the question "Are we really built for speed?"
    > It seems that the human body, while naturally resilient to much
    >self-inflicted
    > abuse, may not be a reliable container for the soul at high speeds.

    Lest it spill out and spread Soul all over the place

    > Methamphetamine may have the ability to chemically fuel the ride, physically
    > it may just prove the limitations for human society.

    WOW...that would be an interesting study...choose your SCI.

    Mr.Roberts tiptoes around his criticism of Meth too quietly, he never makes
    the obvious point that METH is simply a powerful stimulant, whereas MDMA,
    LSD, etc. are far more psycoactive and complex in their effects... this
    complexity and depth are why these drugs are sought after. Whether or not
    you prefer altered states, everyone seems to agree that the more colorful
    drugs are quite moving... for good or bad, you can't help coming away from
    a heavy dose with a whole different point of view. People who promote CNS
    travel say that these chemicals offer just what the modern man needs to
    tune perspective. A large group of people sharing such an experience is
    going to be more than a party... people are going to behave quite
    differently toward each other than a straight crowd or a bunch of drunks
    and speedFreaks... if all goes well, hopefully the folks are going to walk
    away with something more than just memory and a hangover, something unique
    and remarkable, a new way of seeing... a fucking SCENE even, a Summer of
    WHOA!... Once you've been there, you know the place... you don't ALWAYS
    have to take the drug to go back....

    When people start doing speed, they are not looking for this experience,
    they are just looking to be high on speed

    Psychedelic drugs are not addictive because of TOLERANCE... If yesterday
    you did a serious dose of MDMA, Mescaline, something with higher brain
    function or psychedelic activity, you are not going to get off again today,
    unless you REALLY up the dose... These drugs act more as agents that
    stimulate the release of chemicals already in your system, which in turn
    produce the desired effect. So until your body replenishes it's own store
    of these 'local chemicals', repeated dosing has drastically reduced
    effects. METH being a simple STIMULANT does not have such pronounced
    TOLERANCE limitations, all your body really needs for more tweaking, is
    more METH...ie it's effect is more direct or 'primary'. Since a
    recuperation time is inherent in drugs with higher level activity, but NOT
    continued METH consumption, NATURALLY the latter is going to lead to more
    abuse, sleep deprivation, and compulsive behavior, like addiction.

    If some Raver did some X yesterday, then switches to METH today, to keep
    the run alive, it should be obvious that this individual is already
    beginning to act like an drugAddict before the speed even sucks him in, he
    is already someone who is 'on a roll' and blowing off straight time to stay
    fucked up... Once you get rolling on speed, the compulsion to stay high
    gets even stronger.

    Any 'scene' whose central focus is to gather, and do mass injestion of a
    drug of choice, then party.... is going to burn out, blend in, mutate or
    decay... it's just not enough to hold a culture together... that's what '67
    was in the Haight, a big trip fest.... prior to that was a revolution of
    ideas from a whole spectrum of sources out of an unusually vibrant
    community of intellectuals, students from top Universities, an historically
    active community in politics (which were volatile), and a density of talent
    amoung artists/musicians/performers and finally the LSD. When 'the scene'
    became just a trip fest, when the focus, the energy, and the talk was
    about drugs, it was over. No matter WHAT DRUG is available to the crowd, A
    vibrant flow of NEW ideas and people and views and applications and heart
    is the only thing that will keep your RAVE, or any other movement from
    becoming a tweakMeet or a bland rendition of the original, staged for the
    benefit of NewRave Consumers to experience the ritual.

    If you look around and see a bunch of dis-interested, self-centered,
    clueless speedfreaks at your RAVE scene, obviously your RAVE is not Raving
    like it used to, the NewRavers just don't get it....they act like a bunch
    of .....tourists, welcome to the Past, my friend.

    Speed didn't turn your Tiger into Butter.... nope.....
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    I'm furious.
  4. #4
    kroz weak whyte, frothy cuck, and former twink
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  5. #5
    Originally posted by SCronaldo_J_Trump ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~THE GOOD OLD DAYS revised edition~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    …………………………………………………………………….

    > Bikers have been historically blamed for introducing [Meth] into the
    > psychedelic '60s, subsequently bringing down a whole Summer of Love with
    > violence and angst.

    Not by anyone who was all there.
    I lived in the Bay Area for many years, have quite a few friends in SF,
    Berkeley and Oakland who grew up surrounded by the 60's, shifts in the
    American perception, actual political resistance, LSD unleashed, art/music
    eruption, and finally the hippyTourist influx aka 'Summer of Love'.
    I will share with you their perspective on the Summer of Love, as they have
    told it to me.
    SF BAY AREA: Mid 60's:
    There were a lot of cool scenes going on everywhere, new ideas and
    approaches, stuff to do, people doing some original art/music and some
    fighting the good fight against the gov't, very busy, constructive,
    creative groups of people, very loosely connected, yet mutually
    inspirational….oh, yeah… and some GOOD ACID which seems to instill a
    sense of doubt in established worldView, which can lead to new modes of
    thought and expression in the proper enviornment. The Northern CA urban
    enviornment was, for many reasons, fertile ground for new thinking.

    WHEN the MediaCircus came to 'cover the story', they were avoided by anyone
    who was already busy, but they were gleefully conned and goofed on by local
    pranksters, and longWinded sideWays exhibitionists, who were NOT going to
    give these suckers an even break or a straight story….they'd never get it
    right anyway. MediaDorks proceeded to report wonderous, conflicting,
    spontaneous mindFucks and brainTeasers to the 'folks back East', and
    triggered a horrendous influx of teenage transcient population in '67, who
    trampled the fragile revolutionary social enviornment as it faded, wreaked
    havoc, panicked already confused cops, drew State heat, got reamed and
    fleeced by local business/landlords in bigCity fashion, fired up the
    competition for crumbs at the desperation level, having forgotten their
    wallet in the rush to escape materialism, and just basically went nuts
    blowing their collective mind on the good attitude and even better acid
    produced by locals, having a hell of a ride, for a few months or a year,
    then it was back East or MidWest, off to college, onward to work… sorry
    about the mess… butIwas REALLY FUCKED UP!!!

    Some local MotorCycling blue-class tattooed whiteBoys from the EastBay, and
    the Mission, got fat on their pre-existing marijuana trade boom, pill and
    powder sales… Demand was high… Heat was on… Money was green…
    They were there first.

    SOOOOOOOOO, 30 years of distorting a myth will yeild about equal measure of
    historical perspective to a nebulous tale of Paradise Not Found.

    Can you hitchike to paradise from the Middle Amerikan 60's with a soft
    thumb and a road map…? how can you tell if it has been stolen by the
    Grinch?

    There certainly was a brief American Renaissance centered in the mid-60's
    Bay Area, but the light moves on, and the inspiration was REAL, the hot
    thinkers, revolutionaries and artists had set about the life's work of
    transforming their visions into reality and by '67 they had left Haight St
    and Telegraph Ave to fight killer traffic on the hard roads of the American
    Assimilation.

    What was the Summer of Love…? A real mindblower for the folks who grew
    up in Centerville… AND the popularized consumer/tourist stage at the end
    of an interesting time.

    What ended the Summer of Love…bikers? drugs? Autumn? Who Cares?
    It was just OVER… all successful movements in the pluralistic American
    landscape end with assimillation they are CONSUMED, resistance is
    futile!… many things have never been the same, some folks never left,
    but the Summer ofLove was a suicide run… not even a Summer of Love could
    survive a Summer of Love

    Vintage drugWar propaganda from this era, especially *Speed*Kills!!*
    rhetoric is always fun to revive and mislead, and if you can throw in some
    Evil Shadow Biker Threat lurking in the Dark Side of flowerStomping pinkBoy
    paranoia…it's much more a creature feature than trying to unStuff boring
    tales of Chromosome damage and flying Linkletters.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ALL ABOUT SPEED is it built yet?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    …………………………………………………………………….

    BUILT FOR SPEED continues to retell the untold story again, here are some
    'details' on Meth

    >It is still legally produced in the U.S. under the trade name Desoxyn.

    RIGHT

    > Most often prescribed for weight loss,

    RHONG!!
    You're gonna have to do better than gain 200 extra lbs to extract a
    prescription for Methamphetamine from the Medikal Priesthood. Not even the
    Mexican Drs are selling those.

    >Over the counter ephedrine, or "white crosses," has taken the place of
    >pharmaceutical amphetamine as an easy-to-get alternative.

    "white crosses" refer to a type of pharmaceutical Methamphetamine no longer
    produced… There were alot of bootleg "white crosses" around into the
    late 70's which were usually amphetamine and sometimes Meth.
    Mini-thins and other OTC l-ephedrine tablets were intentionally produced as
    'white cross' lookalikes. Massive quantities of Ephedrine Mini-thins are
    sold OTC, but NOT as an alternative to amphetamine…. I would explain
    this, but it's a big secret!

    > What is often misunderstood is the relationship between speed and crystal
    >meth.

    POPeye had no idea of the depth of this confusion until he read the following:

    > The common reference to speed in the rave scene is the methamphetamine salt
    > (HCl powder), whereas "crystal" usually refers to the free-base form of
    > methamphetamine.

    POPi has only been to one RAVE which sort of meandered tenatively at the
    Berekeley Marina some years ago… He is not an expert on RaveSpeak…
    Nevertheless, no matter who you party with, what kind of music stirs you,
    or whatEVER blows your skirt up… You can NOT petition the LORD with
    prayer… or stabilize, metabolize, crystallize the freebase of
    Methamphetamine…

    The free-base form of Meth is a viscous, corrosive, oily substance… it is
    unstable, does not readily metabolize in bioSystems, and there is no market
    for it… It is best described as an 'intermediate'

    Alot of methUsers, especially out West, smoke it…they are smoking the HCl
    salt, NOT the freebase, you wouldn't want to try smoking the freebase, or
    diesel fuel, or inhale bus exhaust either.

    > Another form "Ice," a higher-grade, purer form of crystal meth is smoked…

    RHONG!!!
    Ice is a completely different chemical all together.
    ICE= 4-methylaminorex, U4Euh, etc. This substance has recently been the
    subject of comprehensive Eleusian research and report at ADC for anyone
    interested. Other information is detailed in several documents at
    hyperreal as well.

    >, a single hit creates a high that lasts for hours

    better not cough!

    > and several hits can wire a user for days.

    hmmmmm, these must be 'metric days'… or there could be some confusion
    over the definition of 'several'.. if one were to continue to take several
    hits every 6 to 8hrs, one could stay wired all the way to the bottom of
    the bag, and that could take several standard Earth days depending on
    bagDensity.

    > However, its high price prevents it from taking hold. A gram of "ice"
    >commands
    > about $5,000 on the street.

    WHOOOAAAAA, why didn't somebody say something beFORE!!!! BREAK OUT THE
    GLASS!!! No, forget it, go out and buy ALL NEW SHIT!!! Move over Bill
    Gates… Crank up the FUME HOOD !!!! Get the Dexatrim people on line.
    Call Mercedes Benz… Dig out E's CyaBromo FAQ…..SOMEBODY get me a
    Heritage Softail and and I want a BIG Screen Computer with GIGABYTE RAM!!!!
    Just CHARGE IT, we're puttin' it all on ICE!!

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~A TANGENT ON TANGENTS~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    …………………………………………………………………….

    You never know when someone in hip boots, keeping a straight font, may take
    a shortCut through SighBur Space onto the great American Plane of
    conjecture, leaving a few suspicious piles of info that thump onto the
    deck, sounding just about right:

    > What is often misunderstood is the relationship between speed and crystal
    >meth.

    When this happens, I suppose we must ask ourselves, on what theorhetical
    landscape has this 'cluster' been deposited, in what atmospheric context
    are we to inhale it?

    Which SCI is it, anyway?

    SCI-ENCE: If you want to hang with the hard-core 'Academigos', they insist
    on data being rendered in the appropriate techno-speak and be provable,
    quantifiable, and repeatable, or at least FOOTnoted.

    SCI-CHOLOGY: Offers much more latitude to the researcher/writer… One can
    more easily start with a conclusion and work backwards, or begin with the
    data, then research the various interdisciplinary schools, translate to the
    suitable vernacular, and stretch toward the desired conclusion… However,
    acceptability of the results depends less on the work and more on the
    weight of the author. While charisma and salesmanship are a plus, stature
    and tenure are the real determiners of acceptance… One must also stay
    abreast of fashionable trends and internal politics if he wishes to express
    the facts accurately.

    SCI-ENTOLOGY: In it's primary sense as a model of interpreting reality,
    before it was co-opted by posed-modern, pulp-religions, the Jetsons, (his
    son) Elroy Hubburd, and a bewildered flock of investors. The information
    need only correspond to academic disciplines in so much as they are
    understood by the researcher. SCIENTOLOGICAL findings and data are
    therefore emitted as quantum in self-contained thought packets which
    utilize the Interactive worldView Protocol. Certain findings or discoveries
    may even require their own operating systems as they cannot be made to run
    on existing platforms. Referred to as Sci-fi by some, but is generally more
    lucrative.

    SCI-CHOTIC: Is absolute in it's subjectivity. Information is gathered and
    organized in such a way that is incomprehensible unless one is actually
    experiencing it in its full ambiguity. All theoretical constructs are
    fluid and temporal.

    But I digress, I believe we were attempting to unravel one of the ancient
    mysteries….

    > What is often misunderstood is the relationship between speed and crystal
    >meth.

    For this we shall access the Hi-Speed Zen Oracle, which replies:

    "All Crystal Meth is Speed, but not all Speed is Crystal Meth."

    that should cover it…

    If not:

    SPEED… strong stimulants that are NOT cocaine… ususally amphetamine,
    but also including Preludin (Phenmetrazine), Prolintane, etc… a long
    list of synthetic stimulants that could be begged, borrowed, stolen from
    the Konspiracy or synthesized at great peril and some difficulty in reeking
    druglabs.

    METHamphetamine is the "SPEED of choice" for most users… it is the
    longest acting amphetamine and has the fewest annoying side-effects for
    most people.
    AKA: N,a-Dimethylbenzeneethanamine, Methedrine(TM),Desoxyphedrine.
    AKA: Crank, Crystal, Crystal Meth, Water, Meth, goFast, Zip

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~APPLES, ORANGES, PC's, and MAC's~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    …………………………………………………………………….
    "Built for Speed" goes on to compare Meth with drugs that are considerably
    more active, and addresses the addiction factor

    > methamphetamine, (popular for its availability and price) has somehow
    > replaced MDMA and LSD as the perfect rave drug.

    the charactar of the scene must be changing for people to accept METH as a
    substitute for acid and X… something ELSE is going on, these drugs are
    NOT interchangable

    > A prominent opinion during the aftermath of the Los Angeles Summer of Love
    > was that speed killed the rave scene.

    Another Summer of Love trashed by speed, it IS possible for trends to wind
    down on their own… it's an entropy thing

    > One major misconception is the link between methamphetamine and ecstasy
    > [MDMA]. Ecstasy does not necessarily contain speed, yet both contain the
    > methamphetamine structure. While both have addictive potential, speed,
    > because of its dopamine ties, is much more profoundly addicting.

    This is misleading and over-generalized

    > Ecstasy has a definite link to the rave scene. In some places it is
    > synonymous. Speed too has been linked to the rave scene – some say it
    > was the death of the ideal.

    > Other users bring up the fact that MDMA also has an addiction factor,
    > that many only attribute to meth. "I like speed just fine," says Benboy.
    > "But I have seen many speed freaks go…

    > revalent discussion between users on either side of the methamphetamine
    > argument involves addiction.

    METH IS ADDICTIVE, everyone agrees on that in psycho-pharmo-socio-SCI

    > "Drugs that don't have a major effect on dopamine generally aren't
    >'addictive'
    > in the same way – Marijuana, MDMA, LSD, psilocybin, etc.

    Many will disagree, but I would say pot is somewhat habit-forming, the
    other three aren't, and there may be something to this dopamine theory, but
    why resort to difficult hypotheses for a straightforward addiction
    discussion

    > Misinformation sometimes is more dangerous than no information

    exactly my point

    > While meth (or any drug) is an inert substance

    not if it's made correctly..!! Perhaps 'innanimate' is the word he was
    looking for

    > that we cannot attribute blame to

    but we could be more critical with better information

    > by its nature it has raised the question "Are we really built for speed?"
    > It seems that the human body, while naturally resilient to much
    >self-inflicted
    > abuse, may not be a reliable container for the soul at high speeds.

    Lest it spill out and spread Soul all over the place

    > Methamphetamine may have the ability to chemically fuel the ride, physically
    > it may just prove the limitations for human society.

    WOW…that would be an interesting study…choose your SCI.

    Mr.Roberts tiptoes around his criticism of Meth too quietly, he never makes
    the obvious point that METH is simply a powerful stimulant, whereas MDMA,
    LSD, etc. are far more psycoactive and complex in their effects… this
    complexity and depth are why these drugs are sought after. Whether or not
    you prefer altered states, everyone seems to agree that the more colorful
    drugs are quite moving… for good or bad, you can't help coming away from
    a heavy dose with a whole different point of view. People who promote CNS
    travel say that these chemicals offer just what the modern man needs to
    tune perspective. A large group of people sharing such an experience is
    going to be more than a party… people are going to behave quite
    differently toward each other than a straight crowd or a bunch of drunks
    and speedFreaks… if all goes well, hopefully the folks are going to walk
    away with something more than just memory and a hangover, something unique
    and remarkable, a new way of seeing… a fucking SCENE even, a Summer of
    WHOA!… Once you've been there, you know the place… you don't ALWAYS
    have to take the drug to go back….

    When people start doing speed, they are not looking for this experience,
    they are just looking to be high on speed

    Psychedelic drugs are not addictive because of TOLERANCE… If yesterday
    you did a serious dose of MDMA, Mescaline, something with higher brain
    function or psychedelic activity, you are not going to get off again today,
    unless you REALLY up the dose… These drugs act more as agents that
    stimulate the release of chemicals already in your system, which in turn
    produce the desired effect. So until your body replenishes it's own store
    of these 'local chemicals', repeated dosing has drastically reduced
    effects. METH being a simple STIMULANT does not have such pronounced
    TOLERANCE limitations, all your body really needs for more tweaking, is
    more METH…ie it's effect is more direct or 'primary'. Since a
    recuperation time is inherent in drugs with higher level activity, but NOT
    continued METH consumption, NATURALLY the latter is going to lead to more
    abuse, sleep deprivation, and compulsive behavior, like addiction.

    If some Raver did some X yesterday, then switches to METH today, to keep
    the run alive, it should be obvious that this individual is already
    beginning to act like an drugAddict before the speed even sucks him in, he
    is already someone who is 'on a roll' and blowing off straight time to stay
    fucked up… Once you get rolling on speed, the compulsion to stay high
    gets even stronger.

    Any 'scene' whose central focus is to gather, and do mass injestion of a
    drug of choice, then party…. is going to burn out, blend in, mutate or
    decay… it's just not enough to hold a culture together… that's what '67
    was in the Haight, a big trip fest…. prior to that was a revolution of
    ideas from a whole spectrum of sources out of an unusually vibrant
    community of intellectuals, students from top Universities, an historically
    active community in politics (which were volatile), and a density of talent
    amoung artists/musicians/performers and finally the LSD. When 'the scene'
    became just a trip fest, when the focus, the energy, and the talk was
    about drugs, it was over. No matter WHAT DRUG is available to the crowd, A
    vibrant flow of NEW ideas and people and views and applications and heart
    is the only thing that will keep your RAVE, or any other movement from
    becoming a tweakMeet or a bland rendition of the original, staged for the
    benefit of NewRave Consumers to experience the ritual.

    If you look around and see a bunch of dis-interested, self-centered,
    clueless speedfreaks at your RAVE scene, obviously your RAVE is not Raving
    like it used to, the NewRavers just don't get it….they act like a bunch
    of …..tourists, welcome to the Past, my friend.

    Speed didn't turn your Tiger into Butter…. nope…..

    Did you pen this out in one night on speed for Rolling Stone :/

    P.S. there is rumors going around Sean Penn went to Asia to get a sex change operation. I wonder if he will break through the glass ceiling now!
  6. #6
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    & THE TEMPLE
    OF THE
    SCREAMING ELECTRON

    A lot of people have some weird idea that this web site is a Bad Place, a place for hackers, software pirates, and anarchists. The reason that they think this is that there are informational text files on here about hacking, piracy, and anarchy.

    However, there are also text files on here that discuss politics; democratic, right wing, left wing, libertarian, communist, and everything in between, but this is not a political web site.

    There are files on here that discuss Jesus Christ, Muhammed, Buddha, Crowley, John Smith, and "Bob", but this is not a religious web site.

    There are files full of short stories, science fiction, humorous articles, and great works of literature, but this is not a literary web site.

    There are files with information on rocketry, radio broadcasting, chemistry, electronics, genetics, and computers, but this is not a technical web site.

    This web site is about INFORMATION. All sorts and all viewpoints. Some of the information you will agree with, some you will find shocking, and some you will probably disagree with violently. That is the whole point. In this society we go to schools where there is one right answer: The Teacher's. There is one acceptable version of events: The Television's. There is only one acceptable occupation: The pursuit of money. There is only one political choice to make: Republicrats (Or Demopublicans, if you prefer.)

    On this web site you are expected to make decisions all by yourself. You get to decide who and what to agree with, and why. You get to hear new viewpoints that you may have never heard before. On this web site people exist without age, without skin color, without gender, without clothes, without nationality, without any of the visual cues we usually use to discredit or ignore people who are unlike ourselves. All of these things are stripped away and the ideas themselves are laid bare.

    You will change. You will transform. You will learn. You will disagree.

    You will enjoy it.

    ~ EnigMa

    https://web-beta.archive.org/web/19981212033530/http://totse.com
  7. #7
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Good times... good times...

    https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20010303133215/http://www.totse.com:80/bbs/Forum1/HTML/000005.html
  8. #8


  9. #9

  10. #10
    What's a totse?
  11. #11
    Originally posted by Hash Slinging Slasher What's a totse?

    I think it's a bar outside of Berkeley!
  12. #12
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST



    !
    ! ! !
    ! ! !
    ! ! !
    ! ! !
    -------------------------
    - sir francis drake -
    --------------------

    presents...


    ****************************
    * phreaking *
    * tutorial *
    ***********************

    what is phreaking?
    ------------------

    phreaking involves ripping off ma bell
    and other phone companies such as mci
    and gte.this can be done in a variety
    of ways.phreaking is almost 100%
    illegal,but has that ever stopped any-
    body?

    how do you phreak?
    ------------------

    there are 3 basic ways to phuck the
    phone companies:

    1.colored boxing.(blue,purple,etc.)
    2.using sprint,mci without paying.
    3."tricks of the trade"

    colored boxing
    --------------

    a pushbutton phone works by emmiting
    tones of different frequencies.by
    changing the frequencies you can do
    some intresting stuff.phreaks have
    realized this and have built devices
    called boxes.there are many types of
    boxes here is a list of a few...

    types of boxes
    -------------

    color function
    ----- --------
    blue - all calls for the price of local

    purple- all calls free!

    silver- free calls,etc.army uses them!



    fuzz box - makes sound of coin dropped

    cheese box-makes calls untracable

    for more information send e-mail to

    f}sir francis
    l}drake

    what are boxes continued
    ------------------------

    most of the above boxes work by making
    differnt tones for each key.i have
    the plans for:blue,silver,gree,brown
    boxes if you want them send e-mail.

    how do you phreak with sprint?
    ------------------------------

    since the break up of att cheaper
    phone companies such as:

    itt
    mci
    gte sprint
    metrophone
    wu

    and many more..

    until january 1st to use these services
    you call the local acssess number and
    then type in a 5 or 6 digit code.you
    can get programs that will call mci
    ,sprint,or whatever and try consecutive
    numbers until it gets one.to fight
    against this the companys use 2 things.
    ..

    1.they have dummy numbers that you thin
    k work but when you call using it
    they trace you!

    2.they change the numbers randomly
    eveery week or less,so you cant use
    a number to long!

    here are some access numbers you can
    try hacking...

    access numbers
    --------------

    metrophone-(415) 579-6001
    itt-(415) 858-2750
    mci-(415) 495-2640
    sprint-(415) 348-7700

    future developments
    -------------------

    after january first,the date the att
    break up starts,all hell will break
    loose because the reginal companies
    will not no what the fuck to do!
    who will profit from this?

    phreaks!!



    /E


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  13. #13
    infinityshock Black Hole
    copyright...the 1800s
  14. #14
    He/She sold them.

    Sir Francis Drake

    Lostcause and her party at the St Francis

    :D


    phone calls twisted lines. neighbors surfed totse too it seems. or was there party goods in mind.
    "Buy this house"
  15. #15
    Originally posted by infinityshock copyright…the 1800s

    25 years is about 1/5th of that back to back time period. so much evolved. but it was for a global market and Satans place at the thrown of the Temple of Mount.

    Good going Dr Mike! I'm sure Satan will be proud of your 20 year contract with Totse.
  16. #16
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by benny vader



    ****************************
    * phreaking *
    * tutorial *
    ***********************

    what is phreaking?
    ------------------

    phreaking involves ripping off ma bell
    and other phone companies such as mci
    and gte.this can be done in a variety
    of ways.phreaking is almost 100%
    illegal,but has that ever stopped any-
    body?

    how do you phreak?
    ------------------

    there are 3 basic ways to phuck the
    phone companies:

    1.colored boxing.(blue,purple,etc.)
    2.using sprint,mci without paying.
    3."tricks of the trade"

    colored boxing
    --------------

    a pushbutton phone works by emmiting
    tones of different frequencies.by
    changing the frequencies you can do
    some intresting stuff.phreaks have
    realized this and have built devices
    called boxes.there are many types of
    boxes here is a list of a few...

    types of boxes
    -------------

    color function
    ----- --------
    blue - all calls for the price of local

    purple- all calls free!

    silver- free calls,etc.army uses them!



    fuzz box - makes sound of coin dropped

    cheese box-makes calls untracable

    for more information send e-mail to

    f}sir francis
    l}drake

    what are boxes continued
    ------------------------

    most of the above boxes work by making
    differnt tones for each key.i have
    the plans for:blue,silver,gree,brown
    boxes if you want them send e-mail.

    how do you phreak with sprint?
    ------------------------------

    since the break up of att cheaper
    phone companies such as:

    itt
    mci
    gte sprint
    metrophone
    wu

    and many more..



    Although hard to believe, the very first free toll call "phreak" was executed using a toy whistle from a box of Cap'n Crunch cereal. The frequency exactly matched the telecom's unlock frequency. How could that be just an accident?

    Post last edited by -SpectraL at 2017-03-31T15:08:51.757328+00:00
  17. #17
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Although hard to believe, the very first free toll call "phreak" was executed using a toy whistle from a box of Cap'n Crunch serial. The frequency exactly matched the telecom's unlock frequency. How could that be just an accident?

    the average person speaks in 3; 12 note octave range. that's only a 1/36 odds because they placed it in a note of that of a child's octave range. to humor them?

    I see what you're up to. Coincidence and anchoring facts.
  18. #18
    benny vader YELLOW GHOST
    Originally posted by -SpectraL Although hard to believe, the very first free toll call "phreak" was executed using a toy whistle from a box of Cap'n Crunch cereal. The frequency exactly matched the telecom's unlock frequency. How could that be just an accident?

    Post last edited by -SpectraL at 2017-03-31T15:08:51.757328+00:00

    i'm a freak. other kids went to &T for bombs and druggs .... but I .... it was capt'n krunch and ma' bell and at&t and phreak that brought me thar.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  19. #19
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    Originally posted by Totse 2001 the average person speaks in 3; 12 note octave range. that's only a 1/36 odds because they placed it in a note of that of a child's octave range. to humor them?

    I see what you're up to. Coincidence and anchoring facts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Draper



    John Thomas Draper (born March 11, 1943), also known as Captain Crunch, Crunch or Crunchman (after the Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal mascot), is an American computer programmer and former phone phreak. He is a legendary figure within the computer programming world and the hacker and security community. Draper has long maintained a nomadic lifestyle;[1] as of May 2013, he resides in Las Vegas, Nevada.[2]

    The phreakers informed Draper that a toy whistle that was, at the time, packaged in boxes of Cap'n Crunch cereal could emit a tone at precisely 2600 hertz—the same frequency that was used by AT&T long lines to indicate that a trunk line was ready and available to route a new call.[13] This would effectively disconnect one end of the trunk, allowing the still connected side to enter an operator mode. Experimenting with this whistle inspired Draper to build blue boxes: electronic devices capable of reproducing other tones used by the phone company.
  20. #20
    Originally posted by -SpectraL https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Draper



    John Thomas Draper (born March 11, 1943), also known as Captain Crunch, Crunch or Crunchman (after the Cap'n Crunch breakfast cereal mascot), is an American computer programmer and former phone phreak. He is a legendary figure within the computer programming world and the hacker and security community. Draper has long maintained a nomadic lifestyle;[1] as of May 2013, he resides in Las Vegas, Nevada.[2]

    The phreakers informed Draper that a toy whistle that was, at the time, packaged in boxes of Cap'n Crunch cereal could emit a tone at precisely 2600 hertz—the same frequency that was used by AT&T long lines to indicate that a trunk line was ready and available to route a new call.[13] This would effectively disconnect one end of the trunk, allowing the still connected side to enter an operator mode. Experimenting with this whistle inspired Draper to build blue boxes: electronic devices capable of reproducing other tones used by the phone company.

    Well then it's not coincidence but a factual conspiracy to cheat Ma Bell. Hahah

    blue boxes were well known. I thought this was discovered in the 70s by some college kids out of MA

    Edited: But he didn't design the toy to cheat the system. it "inspired him" to do so. Where are nearly all plastic toys made? china. So maybe the story is layered. Perhaps that was a cover story. Perhaps the Chinese and the Communist Movement in the USA wanted to bring down Ma Bell.. and needed a cover story.

    How's that for a conspiracy theory.

    Holy Chrise

    edited edited: it's a fucking dog on a nutsack and looks like a Penis. It's a dogs dick for kids to blow on?

    Post last edited by Totse 2001 at 2017-03-31T15:24:24.252124+00:00
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