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FBI Creates 'Right Wing Terrorism'
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2021-02-11 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra There don't need to be internal FBI files; in many cases the process and interviews with the 'informants' are publicly available - like the case of the 1993 WTC bombings.
Specifically talking about the book The Terror factory, it cites many of those interviews. What's more it was publicly endorsed by a well-regarded ex-FBI agent who went on to write his own book expanding on the same topic (though I haven't read this one).
Nobody is debating the facts.
We're debating all the space you've filled in with your own bias. Again, if you can't see how this information you linked isn't credible, I don't know what to tell you. 3rd party info, Russian think tank... yeah. Maybe not the best source of information on the goddamn FBI.
You are doing literally the exact same thing the Q guy I know does. Giving information that people can't possibly debate, and when you're like "Well what about all this crazy stuff?" then the excuses come out.
Either
1. I'm not looking in the right spots
2. I need to do my research.
3. I'm a stupid liberal.
It always boils down to these things because the people involved are so heavily biased they can't see that sources from goddamn Russian think tanks don't give an accurate picture of US government. All they have to do to get you to bite the hook is say one thing that is true, and then you'll believe the rest of the lies they tell as facts. Clearly if there are documents, it means its true!
Tell me, have you ever taken a statistics class? You're falling prey to biased sampling. It's a typical propaganda move and one the Q people use in great force.
I don't know if you realize that you use literally the exact same language and phrasing as the Q people.
Let me spell it out for you though: The FBI is NOT responsible for 'every terrorist attack since 1992'. That is so fucking ludicrous. 9/10 their tactics work.
They find people willing to commit terroristic acts and stop them before they get the opportunity. Sometimes those people commit the crimes anyway. You can talk about the 90's all you like but that was almost 30 years ago and not really relevant to FBI tactics today in the computer age.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-interviewed-dead-boston-bombing-suspect-years-ago/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/boston-bomber-told-fbi-he-was-approached-by-mystery-men-in-suits
Same facts, but the way it is framed is everything.
I really don't understand how you don't see clear through this propaganda shit. Seriously, didn't you go to college? You didn't take journalism or statistics? Because you would've learned about all about the sourcing/statistical leverages these propaganda machines are using to twist the opinions of people like you who are already biased towards the right.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-02-11 at 4:27 PM UTCNot really worth digging down into with you if you can't see the patterns, aldra.
This is why you should've just killed yourself when I told you the first time. You are far too gullible. -
2021-02-11 at 4:51 PM UTCI know I haven’t been reading/posting much lately, but I haven’t seen a word mentioned about Russia hacking practically every one of our government agencies. bUt rUsSIa Isn’T tHe baD gUY🥴
I did see Aldra mention something about the protests in Russia being bullshit. Yeah, trying to poison a guy who speaks out against the supreme leader, and then jailing him is such a humane thing to do🥴
Sorry Aldra, but GTFOutta here with that rUsSia ArE tHe GoOD guys🥴The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-02-11 at 5 PM UTCRussia has not been relevant in years and has nothing to do with FBI controlling white wing groups and manufacturing terrorism to get a bigger budget and make career cases based on bullshit entrapment.
Please stay on topic, this is not a thread about Russian collusion which was proven not to be true btwThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-02-11 at 5:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood Russia has not been relevant in years and has nothing to do with FBI controlling white wing groups and manufacturing terrorism to get a bigger budget and make career cases based on bullshit entrapment.
Please stay on topic, this is not a thread about Russian collusion which was proven not to be true btw
We're not talking about collusion you idiot.
YOU stay on topic.
This is what you retards always do. How about you talk about the stuff we're actually talking about?
Russian propaganda online has been proven and shown by multiple world governments. It's not just the US. They're going after the west as a whole. I could link you to the reports but just google it. This is not a new thing. This is not a conspiracy. This is something everyone in the world agrees upon. Just because Trump didn't get charged with conspiracy does not mean Russians did not have a vested interest in him winning.
Dude literally owes money to Russian banks. This, again, is public knowledge. There are articles on it dating back to the 90's.
Don't forget Trump is the only US president to go 'off the record' with Putin. Putin isn't a dumbass. He knows how to cover his tracks. He knew Trump would get caught and didn't want to get involved.
What likely happened is he told Trump "Hey, we have people doing this. We'll help you out." and that was the end of it. Trump knew they were helping him as is evidenced by his now criminal advisors. This, again, is not a secret.
But if you want to go HURR NO COLLUSION then whatever. You're not on the same page as us. You're not even reading the same book.
Maybe if you actually understood the politics you could say something other than dumb meme shit lmao -
2021-02-11 at 5:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist I know I haven’t been reading/posting much lately, but I haven’t seen a word mentioned about Russia hacking practically every one of our government agencies. bUt rUsSIa Isn’T tHe baD gUY🥴
I did see Aldra mention something about the protests in Russia being bullshit. Yeah, trying to poison a guy who speaks out against the supreme leader, and then jailing him is such a humane thing to do🥴
Sorry Aldra, but GTFOutta here with that rUsSia ArE tHe GoOD guys🥴
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/13/us/politics/russian-hackers-us-government-treasury-commerce.html
https://apnews.com/article/russia-us-agency-hacking-a1d451df34d9f50ddb20f9df0c16b2ef
Yeah but sure... Russia isn't doing anything to try and harm us. They'll only hack us! They won't push misinformation online! Never!! That's why I trust all Russian media. -
2021-02-11 at 5:36 PM UTCWhatever happened to the good old fashioned 4k super high definition ISIS videos ? The mexican cartels lowkey have been dominating that scene for the last few years. Let's GO. Does nobody know how to torture a person and make it publically available anymore??The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2021-02-11 at 5:37 PM UTCokay but what does that have to do with the FBI creating fake terrorism.
Also they call any alternative media an "Arm of the kremlin" because they don't tow the leftist line.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-02-11 at 5:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by mmQ Whatever happened to the good old fashioned 4k super high definition ISIS videos ? The mexican cartels lowkey have been dominating that scene for the last few years. Let's GO. Does nobody know how to torture a person and make it publically available anymore??
Yeah the SITE intelligence group made good films
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2021-02-11 at 5:41 PM UTC
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2021-02-11 at 11:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Not even the slight bit interested in this mind bending, Russian biased bullshit. “Fake news” is what got the US into this mess. I’m not even at a place where I feel like debating it. I was just commenting on your common sources.
seems a bit racist, but if you're going that route both books referenced and the EIR analysis were written by Americans.
Originally posted by Technologist I did see Aldra mention something about the protests in Russia being bullshit. Yeah, trying to poison a guy who speaks out against the supreme leader, and then jailing him is such a humane thing to do🥴
it doesn't make your argument any stronger to use goofy capitals, it just makes it goofy. I recommend making a new thread if you want to talk about that mong, but -
1. Nobody in the Russian political establishment cares about Navalnyi, much less cares about him enough to try to kill him.
2. Real political assassinations are typically disguised because making a huge spectacle defies the purpose of killing them in the first place; drawing attention to whatever it is they were killed for.
3. He was jailed because he was on parole for running multiple frauds and scams and left the country; what do you think would happen if you did that in the US?
4. His entire documentary was demonstrated to be a fraud; what he claimed was 'Putin's castle' was actually a half-finished resort that never got the funding to be completed. The video and photos that were claimed to be on site were entirely false as the building's structure wasn't even complete, let alone furnished -
2021-02-11 at 11:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Antifa Member Nobody is debating the facts.
We're debating all the space you've filled in with your own bias. Again, if you can't see how this information you linked isn't credible, I don't know what to tell you. 3rd party info, Russian think tank… yeah. Maybe not the best source of information on the goddamn FBI.
You are doing literally the exact same thing the Q guy I know does. Giving information that people can't possibly debate, and when you're like "Well what about all this crazy stuff?" then the excuses come out.
Either
1. I'm not looking in the right spots
2. I need to do my research.
3. I'm a stupid liberal.
It always boils down to these things because the people involved are so heavily biased they can't see that sources from goddamn Russian think tanks don't give an accurate picture of US government. All they have to do to get you to bite the hook is say one thing that is true, and then you'll believe the rest of the lies they tell as facts. Clearly if there are documents, it means its true!
Tell me, have you ever taken a statistics class? You're falling prey to biased sampling. It's a typical propaganda move and one the Q people use in great force.
I don't know if you realize that you use literally the exact same language and phrasing as the Q people.
Let me spell it out for you though: The FBI is NOT responsible for 'every terrorist attack since 1992'. That is so fucking ludicrous. 9/10 their tactics work.
They find people willing to commit terroristic acts and stop them before they get the opportunity. Sometimes those people commit the crimes anyway. You can talk about the 90's all you like but that was almost 30 years ago and not really relevant to FBI tactics today in the computer age.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-interviewed-dead-boston-bombing-suspect-years-ago/
https://www.thedailybeast.com/boston-bomber-told-fbi-he-was-approached-by-mystery-men-in-suits
Same facts, but the way it is framed is everything.
I really don't understand how you don't see clear through this propaganda shit. Seriously, didn't you go to college? You didn't take journalism or statistics? Because you would've learned about all about the sourcing/statistical leverages these propaganda machines are using to twist the opinions of people like you who are already biased towards the right.
second article is paywalled so I'm guessing you didn't even read it either. The Tsaernevs are a strange case and I don't want to go down that rabbit hole here - not only were the US authorities given detailed information by the Russians, but even after investigation and surveillance they were able to lock down the city for hours and evade detection.
9/10 of their tactics work to secure a conviction, not to make anyone safer. They actively target and radicalise people who would likely never have taken action if not pushed into it, and there are at least 10 examples provided in the two links I've posted.
In terms of 'white nationalists' rather than Muslims, both Atomwaffen and The Base were government-controlled operations, with the latter actually being directly run by an intelligence contractor with an active CAGE code.
This is explicitly entrapment by definition and the only way they've been able to get away with it for so long is political cover.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2021-02-12 at 12:25 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra seems a bit racist, but if you're going that route both books referenced and the EIR analysis were written by Americans.
Racist? You’ve got to be kidding me! I don’t like a country that hacks our government entities, and tries to poison his people. Got a problem with that, too bad. And as we all know, there are Americans that want us to be like Russia so saying Americans wrote some of it, doesn’t make it non biased towards Russia.it doesn't make your argument any stronger to use goofy capitals, it just makes it goofy.
Well, when you defend Russian atrocities, you sound goofy to me!I recommend making a new thread if you want to talk about that mong, but -
1. Nobody in the Russian political establishment cares about Navalnyi, much less cares about him enough to try to kill him.
2. Real political assassinations are typically disguised because making a huge spectacle defies the purpose of killing them in the first place; drawing attention to whatever it is they were killed for.
3. He was jailed because he was on parole for running multiple frauds and scams and left the country; what do you think would happen if you did that in the US?
4. His entire documentary was demonstrated to be a fraud; what he claimed was 'Putin's castle' was actually a half-finished resort that never got the funding to be completed. The video and photos that were claimed to be on site were entirely false as the building's structure wasn't even complete, let alone furnished
Don’t have to start a thread, I’m sure your info is pretty much Russian propaganda that you enjoy reading and parroting. -
2021-02-12 at 12:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Racist? You’ve got to be kidding me! I don’t like a country that hacks our government entities, and tries to poison his people. Got a problem with that, too bad. And as we all know, there are Americans that want us to be like Russia so saying Americans wrote some of it, doesn’t make it non biased towards Russia.
this has nothing to do with Russia. you brought it up because you don't like the site the article was published on (even though the writer is a Canadian).
Originally posted by Technologist Don’t have to start a thread, I’m sure your info is pretty much Russian propaganda that you enjoy reading and parroting.
what purpose do you think it would serve the government to poison a serial fraudster who never gets more than 2% of the vote? -
2021-02-12 at 12:34 AM UTC
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2021-02-12 at 12:59 AM UTC
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2021-02-12 at 1:05 AM UTCI watch fox news in between marathons on the fighting gorilla channel.
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2021-02-12 at 1:53 AM UTC
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2021-02-12 at 2:13 AM UTC
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2021-02-12 at 2:18 AM UTCyou haven't posted any 'facts'
