Originally posted by Antifa Member
No there was written communication and coordination. Just came out yesterday or the day before. It was an attempted murder. Just like with the governor and the kidnapping attempt. They had written plans for murder. Its not an assumption.
hat same month, he reportedly contacted Musico, who advocated for a nonviolent approach. Fox, Garbin, Harris, and Franks planned to meet with an undercover FBI agent to purchase explosives on October 7, though Caserta did not attend due to work obligations, while Croft returned to Delaware prior to the meeting.
look at this terrorist training camp disguised as some dudes house
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Originally posted by aldra
this was carried on from another thread
as scron posted above, The Terror Factory is a very good book that goes through and details how the FBI played a lead organisational role in almost every 'foiled terror attack' since 2001.
Here's the article I read recently that reminded me:
It's not even hidden or disputed that their informant largely organised the 1993 WTC bombings, as well as showing the group how to safely make, test and deploy explosives.
Yeah totally not biased at all
God I can't believe you actually get your info from shit like this... May as well be a youtube video.
Originally posted by aldra
it's all pretty well sourced, care to give me a good reason not to believe it?
Literally a fucking Q book.
The whole premise behind the propaganda is to frame facts as whole truths. If you can't see past that I can't help you. It's like going to a mcdonald's, eating a cookie, and walking away thinking that the only thing every mcdonald's sells is cookies.
Yes. Those things happened. No, it's not "almost every attack". You only believe shit like that because you've been fed things through a narrow lens. Like a horse with blinders on. And it is NOT well sourced lol.
I'm not even going to get into the specifics because you're really too goddamn stupid to see past conspiracy theories. It blows my mind that you think this is even 1% convincing.
If you have an article with official documentation and not 3rd party anecdotal reports I'd love to see it. Otherwise you're just pushing bullshit.
Originally posted by aldra
that's a long way of saying 'no I can't'
Again, read the sources. All third party. Not real documentation. It is anectdotal.
You seriously think just because someone wrote a book about something that means its true? Like... Dude how dumb are you? This is what conspiracy theorists do. They reference each other.
There don't need to be internal FBI files; in many cases the process and interviews with the 'informants' are publicly available - like the case of the 1993 WTC bombings.
Specifically talking about the book The Terror factory, it cites many of those interviews. What's more it was publicly endorsed by a well-regarded ex-FBI agent who went on to write his own book expanding on the same topic (though I haven't read this one).
Originally posted by Antifa Member
Again, read the sources. All third party. Not real documentation. It is anectdotal.
You seriously think just because someone wrote a book about something that means its true? Like… Dude how dumb are you? This is what conspiracy theorists do. They reference each other.
theres no such thing as true, truths, false or falsehoods.
Originally posted by Antifa Member
Literally a fucking Q book.
The whole premise behind the propaganda is to frame facts as whole truths. If you can't see past that I can't help you. It's like going to a mcdonald's, eating a cookie, and walking away thinking that the only thing every mcdonald's sells is cookies.
Yes. Those things happened. No, it's not "almost every attack". You only believe shit like that because you've been fed things through a narrow lens. Like a horse with blinders on. And it is NOT well sourced lol.
I'm not even going to get into the specifics because you're really too goddamn stupid to see past conspiracy theories. It blows my mind that you think this is even 1% convincing.
If you have an article with official documentation and not 3rd party anecdotal reports I'd love to see it. Otherwise you're just pushing bullshit.
The Strategic Culture Foundation is a Russian think tank that primarily publishes an online current affairs magazine of the same name. It is regarded as an arm of Russian state interests by the United States government.
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Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood
the proudboys leadership forgot to take off the hats their handlers gave them
BTW Scron, you can buy those hats anywhere.
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Originally posted by Technologist
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BTW Scron, you can buy those hats anywhere.
Yeah but he is an actual proven FBI informant. I bet if you broke into his house and went through his shit there would be all kinds of police gear for undercover agents.
Originally posted by aldra
try addressing the content.
Not even the slight bit interested in this mind bending, Russian biased bullshit. “Fake news” is what got the US into this mess. I’m not even at a place where I feel like debating it. I was just commenting on your common sources.
that was a very obvious joke
Really? I’d have never known🥴.
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Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood
Yeah but he is an actual proven FBI informant. I bet if you broke into his house and went through his shit there would be all kinds of police gear for undercover agents.
Gavin McGinnis was so right to distance himself from them right away. He foresaw what was going to happen. I like and respect Gavin alot and think he's very talented but he's kinda nutty in some ways.
Anyways, the BC couple who were entrapped is a very sad chapter in Canadian history. There was also the case in Florida of some radical preacher in some ghetto who got entrapped hard too. Its crazy how far they will go to get a conviction. Of the "Toronto 13" or however many, most of them were influenced as well and the weapons, supplies, targets etc were all provided by informants.
It's using dubious police tactics that are barely legal and morally reprehensible for drug investigations to go after terrorism. Hate to make the obvious 1984 analogy but that's basically the premise of the book. When a thought is believed to exist in a person's head that runs counter to the state, the state orchestrates a scenario to turn them into a "terrorist"
Its literally from the authoritarian playback. The thing is public perception is on the states side because terrorism is scary. They should just use entrapment to hunt pedophiles and financial crimes, institute the death penalty for both and watch a lot fewer people grumbling about the government that they want to spend years and millions to entrap.
Yeah these guys would have never gotten that close if they didn't have a agent provocateur egging them on and providing them material, financial and emotional support.
After one woman broke his heart, Khalil Abu Rayyan, a 21-year-old Michigan man, contemplated suicide. Then, when he confided his dark thoughts to another woman, she suggested he steer his violence toward other people.
Both women, it turned out, were FBI honeypots, and one of the recorded conversations with Rayyan entered into ongoing court proceedings provides a rare glimpse into how federal informants work.
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