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I know my covid bill is controversial, but the money for transgendered pakistanis will really help people like captan falcon.
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2021-01-01 at 4:16 PM UTC
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2021-01-01 at 4:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Much of it does though - consultancy fees, research costs, royalties - huge amounts of these contracts are pure exploitation and embezzlement that eventually end up as executive bonuses, discretionary payouts and the like
Captain Falcon thinks he has some secret understanding of economics that we are all too dumb to understand. -
2021-01-01 at 10:11 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Much of it does though - consultancy fees, research costs, royalties - huge amounts of these contracts are pure exploitation and embezzlement that eventually end up as executive bonuses, discretionary payouts and the like
That would happen whether the same amount was disbursed to Israel or is paid to the contractor on Israel's behalf. An earmarked aid package would carry the same stipulations. -
2021-01-02 at 12:01 AM UTC
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2021-01-02 at 12:03 AM UTC
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2021-01-02 at 12:06 AM UTCPosting in an economic major thread
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2021-01-02 at 12:50 AM UTC
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2021-01-02 at 5:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by The Head Nigger In Charge That would happen whether the same amount was disbursed to Israel or is paid to the contractor on Israel's behalf. An earmarked aid package would carry the same stipulations.
the difference I'm talking about is that instead of 100% of the resources going directly to israel as is implied, a large portion of them stay in the US, but get funneled into assets for the already turbo-rich, hence the is this better or worse -
2021-01-02 at 7:48 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra the difference I'm talking about is that instead of 100% of the resources going directly to israel as is implied, a large portion of them stay in the US, but get funneled into assets for the already turbo-rich, hence the is this better or worse
I'm saying it's not better or worse because direct military aid packages usually come with stipulations that do essentially the same job.
There is a prewritten contract you get to agree to while accepting US military aid, the government signs off on what they are actually receiving and paying, then money is disbursed to pay for it. You can make anything cost anything. Generally governments receive the hardware at a "discount" and the remainder is siphoned away in "services". This way the government gets all of the contractor's appraisal of "value" for the aid package based on the hardware supplied, and significant sums can be embezzled by way of "services".
Then the government is officially on the hook to honour its contract and can't just squirrel away funds from the aid package: those funds may very well get consolidated into your government's general operating budget, or embezzled or whatever, but you have to pay and fulfill your contract.
These packages serve an important diplomatic function but it's not necessary or recommended for every aid deal.
The difference between aid payment and aid spending packages is usually that payment packages usually have some flexibility on how the funds are actually spent by the recipient government, so for example they can buy 2 rifles or 4 handguns. Whereas aid spending packages are usually regarding some preset deal where flexibility isn't really required.
At least this is how they used to do it with Pakistan when Musharraf was in power, and have done this with US allies in the middle East.
In this specific bill, they are largely focusing on expanding their cooperative programs such as their joint missile defence research, so they don't require a flexible payment package atm, though Iron Dome has previously been financed thru both. -
2021-01-02 at 1:56 PM UTC
Originally posted by The Head Nigger In Charge I'm saying it's not better or worse because direct military aid packages usually come with stipulations that do essentially the same job.
There is a prewritten contract you get to agree to while accepting US military aid, the government signs off on what they are actually receiving and paying, then money is disbursed to pay for it. You can make anything cost anything. Generally governments receive the hardware at a "discount" and the remainder is siphoned away in "services". This way the government gets all of the contractor's appraisal of "value" for the aid package based on the hardware supplied, and significant sums can be embezzled by way of "services".
Then the government is officially on the hook to honour its contract and can't just squirrel away funds from the aid package: those funds may very well get consolidated into your government's general operating budget, or embezzled or whatever, but you have to pay and fulfill your contract.
These packages serve an important diplomatic function but it's not necessary or recommended for every aid deal.
The difference between aid payment and aid spending packages is usually that payment packages usually have some flexibility on how the funds are actually spent by the recipient government, so for example they can buy 2 rifles or 4 handguns. Whereas aid spending packages are usually regarding some preset deal where flexibility isn't really required.
At least this is how they used to do it with Pakistan when Musharraf was in power, and have done this with US allies in the middle East.
In this specific bill, they are largely focusing on expanding their cooperative programs such as their joint missile defence research, so they don't require a flexible payment package atm, though Iron Dome has previously been financed thru both.
you have no idea of what your talking about and your way out of your depth and counter.
get back behing that counter and get me two packs of dunhill you got damm paki. -
2021-01-02 at 1:57 PM UTCyalaa yalaa yalaa
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2021-01-03 at 12:58 AM UTC
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2021-01-05 at 3:24 AM UTCcan't live without smoking my coffee every meal
i only care about the last hands that touch it
