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“Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like that and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,” Francis reportedly told Mr Cruz.
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2020-10-21 at 9:30 PM UTC“Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like that and loves you like this and I don’t care. The pope loves you like this. You have to be happy with who you are,” Francis reportedly told Mr Cruz.
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2020-10-21 at 9:33 PM UTCUhhh Is Juan Carlos the guy that brings us coffee for the Folgers dynasty
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2020-10-21 at 9:36 PM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 9:55 PM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 9:55 PM UTC>the pope bribed the church
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2020-10-21 at 9:55 PM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 10:04 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace >the pope bribed the church
I think they've been doing that since the dawn of Christianity.
For the right price you can buy an indulgence, which is basically a get-out-of-jail-free card.
You get a better seat in heaven and your sins are stricken from the record.
Not a bad deal if you can afford it. -
2020-10-21 at 10:26 PM UTCOmne datum optimum
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2020-10-22 at 1:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I think they've been doing that since the dawn of Christianity.
For the right price you can buy an indulgence, which is basically a get-out-of-jail-free card.
You get a better seat in heaven and your sins are stricken from the record.
Not a bad deal if you can afford it.
How? The Pope isn't rich. Their money is the Vatican's money. -
2020-10-22 at 4:55 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks I think they've been doing that since the dawn of Christianity.
For the right price you can buy an indulgence, which is basically a get-out-of-jail-free card.
You get a better seat in heaven and your sins are stricken from the record.
Not a bad deal if you can afford it.
Indulgences have always been a thing, but they don't/didn't usually involve an exchange of money. When you go to confession and the priest tells you to say 3 "Hail Mary"s, that is also an indulgence (and for the most part, how the idea is intended to be used). I'm pretty sure anyway. >_>
It's not like the Church has, from day one, been in the business of accepting gold for absolution (at least not in such a direct fashion). -
2020-10-22 at 6:09 PM UTC
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2020-10-22 at 6:11 PM UTC
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2020-10-22 at 6:17 PM UTCjuan carlos seems like a nice name.
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2020-10-22 at 6:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by Billy teh Block Head I miss the good old days in the crusade when the church invaded an entire nation just to loot the valuables and they did it in the name of God.
Because fuck those Muslims they aren't Christian so lets take all their shit. Because God.
They tried to invade Ireland and got their asses smashed. Short Irish Men sent them screaming back to their Iceland and Norway.
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2020-10-22 at 6:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace How? The Pope isn't rich. Their money is the Vatican's money.
Originally posted by Meikai Indulgences have always been a thing, but they don't/didn't usually involve an exchange of money. When you go to confession and the priest tells you to say 3 "Hail Mary"s, that is also an indulgence (and for the most part, how the idea is intended to be used). I'm pretty sure anyway. >_>
It's not like the Church has, from day one, been in the business of accepting gold for absolution (at least not in such a direct fashion).
I might have used the wrong word... maybe tithes is better?
But they actually did this stuff all the time (money ==> absolution) back around the middle ages as a way of increasing the Catholic church's wealth and therefore power.
The church was essentially a global power force literally bent on world domination.
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2020-10-22 at 6:28 PM UTCActually, I found one source that actually does refer to them as "indulgences":
Perhaps the most famous instance of medieval church profiteering was the sale of indulgences, papers which declared absolution from sins even those not yet committed.
https://www.historyhit.com/how-the-church-dominated-life-in-the-middle-ages/
I can't find the original source that I learned about this from since it was from a college class I took like 10 years ago. -
2020-10-22 at 6:28 PM UTC