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Voter Fraud in the US
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2020-10-21 at 3:23 AM UTCI dunno, never really looked into it. Assumed it was just sarcasm
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2020-10-21 at 3:28 AM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 3:33 AM UTCI dunno what you're talking about
I never really cared enough about Mr. Half-and-half's legitimacy to find out if there was any substance to those claims.
I assumed you only brought it up to smear the report as a 'far right conspiracy' or whatever you faggots call it when you don't like things. -
2020-10-21 at 3:34 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace 'Still going through the courts' is a nice vague and bullshit reasoning that sounds official but does not say anything of substance. The registry I mentioned is not just based on Census data. Again, the address you provide has to be backchecked against the database. You can access this info publicly for most states.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/access-to-and-use-of-voter-registration-lists.aspx
THIS is not the info you change when you request a ballot somewhere else. You are not actually changing legal address. It's just a failsafe in case their system is out of date. This requirement is listed in the NVRA, which is something you would've learned about in school if you were an American.
Honestly hilarious how this whole thread is just a bunch of non-Americans bumbling around because they didn't learn this basic shit in school that every American learns.
The most recent census is going through the courts right now and data from it hasn't been used yet (or at least isn't supposed to have been).
That link is interesting but doesn't really refute my point that if you had someone's info (not garnered from a voting list, likely obtained through nefarious means) you could request an address change, or even simply request a ballot with a new address and hope they didn't already do so. I didn't go to amerifat pubic skool but I did go "Tyrone Mcgillicuddy's l'ecole du exploiting weaknesses in institutions" and it doesn't seem very hard to me. Would require a few people to do en masse but it certainly can be done from all I've seen. I know it's mailed in one piece too, some CC's are mailed in two, weeks apart. If an address change required a document with your name on it and the new address that would be harder. Nothing I've seen so far makes an address change difficult or impossible. Even if it requires a document that can be forged easily.
Not saying people do this, just saying they certainly could. -
2020-10-21 at 3:38 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I dunno what you're talking about
I never really cared enough about Mr. Half-and-half's legitimacy to find out if there was any substance to those claims.
I assumed you only brought it up to smear the report as a 'far right conspiracy' or whatever you faggots call it when you don't like things.
Because it is a conspiracy... started by Trump. This is not even a joke. He's been at it since 2008. Its why he absolutely will not shut up about Obama.
The website you linked pushed this conspiracy, among others. It is a clearly biased, right leaning publication, and is displaying non-news to push an agenda. Those numbers are literally just dead people. I don't know what the fuck you think it is but again, no evidence it impacts the election in any perceptible way.
You really do not understand how evidence works aldra. You're VERY easily swayed by opinion pieces -
2020-10-21 at 3:44 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace The website you linked pushed this conspiracy, among others. It is a clearly biased, right leaning publication,
As opposed to the left-leaning think tank you posted a link to?
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace and is displaying non-news to push an agenda. Those numbers are literally just dead people. I don't know what the fuck you think it is but again, no evidence it impacts the election in any perceptible way.
They likely are dead people or people who've moved out of state, but they're still on voter rolls, are still treated as valid voters and in some cases still have ballots automatically sent out to them.
Stats put average (in-person) voter turnout at 50-60% for the last decade or so, and having such an enormous number of nonexistent voters still on the rolls is extremely open to interference, even if fraud hasn't been explicitly demonstrated.
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace You really do not understand how evidence works aldra. You're VERY easily swayed by opinion pieces
Don't try to talk down to me. You don't have the stature for it, especially when you're rolling around in the mud. -
2020-10-21 at 3:47 AM UTCPS.
Did you take a sales or customer service course recently? The bit about repeating the subject's name to build trust tends to have the opposite effect on people who notice it. -
2020-10-21 at 3:55 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra As opposed to the left-leaning think tank you posted a link to?
They likely are dead people or people who've moved out of state, but they're still on voter rolls, are still treated as valid voters and in some cases still have ballots automatically sent out to them.
Stats put average (in-person) voter turnout at 50-60% for the last decade or so, and having such an enormous number of nonexistent voters still on the rolls is extremely open to interference, even if fraud hasn't been explicitly demonstrated.
Don't try to talk down to me. You don't have the stature for it, especially when you're rolling around in the mud.
Reality often has a liberal bias
You dont get a ballot automatically sent out to you. You have to request it. In most states its a two step request of application then approval to get a ballot. God youre retarded. Nobody just gets a ballot lol.
Open to interference and actually having interference are two different issues. All studies point to there being voter fraud. You do see the difference, right? I have actual studies conducted by professionals. You have wild speculation from journalists based on interpretation.
Look at how many 'avenues for fraud' you've found yet not a single one is used in more than isolated cases? Like, you can usually count them on one hand. Thats how much of a non problem it is.
Also try not to get too butthurt sweetie. It makes you look ugly. -
2020-10-21 at 3:57 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra PS.
Did you take a sales or customer service course recently? The bit about repeating the subject's name to build trust tends to have the opposite effect on people who notice it.
Jesus your mind is geared towards conspiracy. Stop trying to see patterns where there is none. I am just using your name, aldra. -
2020-10-21 at 3:59 AM UTCA conspiracy is an action taken secretly by a group, not a Mexican playing at being manipulative.
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2020-10-21 at 4:08 AM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 4:10 AM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 4:11 AM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 6:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra That quote is from a 2007 study that looked at selected individual claims.
https://archive.is/BhfOg
Why do you always post stuff from shit sources bro. Specially an article citing themselves. -
2020-10-21 at 8:50 AM UTCLeftists are such inbred retards they only look at the source, not the facts.
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2020-10-21 at 9:14 AM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 9:28 AM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 11:42 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra lol I've not looked into the source, best I could tell they got the numbers from public census and voter enrollment databases though
Its just alarmism over bureaucratic housekeeping. It's dead people or people who have moved away.
I'm just amazed at your ability to pull from the worst possible sources. For the future, do look them up. -
2020-10-21 at 12:50 PM UTC
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2020-10-21 at 1:27 PM UTC