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- Are garbage human beings
- Are trash human beings
Life only matters for Republicants until you are born
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2020-10-19 at 8:14 PM UTC
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2020-10-19 at 8:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by WellHung In theory, yeah, it's easy, 13… but in practice, its very diificult.. condoms remove the much of the sensitivity, And everyone has that primal urge to make a deposit in their gal.. Thats how Monks had a shorty.
Don't have sex then lol
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2020-10-19 at 8:22 PM UTC
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2020-10-19 at 8:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by Number13 Don't have sex then lol
Killing a child just cause you can't abstain is some of the worst shit imaginable
Not really, children have been dying for thousands of years and barely used to survive infancy. So now suddenly its THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD OH MY GOD THE CHILDREN THINK OF THE CHILDREN
Death should be embraced more by society. People are too afraid of true reality and they like to ignore history. It used to be if you couldn't feed the baby you tossed it in the nearest river and prayed to God for forgiveness and then everyone moved on with their lives.
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2020-10-19 at 8:28 PM UTC
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2020-10-19 at 8:35 PM UTC
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2020-10-19 at 8:40 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace A child becomes a human being when it has completely proceeded, in a living state, from the body of its mother , whether or not:
(a) it has breathed;
(b) it has an independent circulation; or
© the navel string is severed.
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Not a child
The definition you yourself quoted actually seems to, in a really weird way, disagree with that.
Apparantly the entity under discussion is considered to be some kind of non-human child (albeit a "child" all the same) until it leaves the mother's body.
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2020-10-19 at 8:42 PM UTCSerious question...
Why do parents start thinking about names for their little clump of cells and planning baby showers if it's just inert biological material at that point?
And why are miscarriages such a big deal?
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2020-10-19 at 8:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks The definition you yourself quoted actually seems to, in a really weird way, disagree with that.
Apparantly the entity under discussion is considered to be some kind of non-human child (albeit a "child" all the same) until it leaves the mother's body.
Whatever a child without human status is, though, I haven't the foggiest.
Really depends on your definition of 'child'. It could easily be replaced with spawn. I'm not sure what a good scientific name would be. It is either time specific like fetus/zygote/etc or it's something like 'unborn baby' in which case you have the same kind of problem as well as the issue of listing it as 'unborn', implying that it will/should be born, or something, whatever. I don't know either.
What do you think Star Trek? -
2020-10-19 at 8:53 PM UTCQuestion: who wishes OP was aborted?
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2020-10-19 at 8:57 PM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Serious question…
Why do parents start thinking about names for their little clump of cells and planning baby showers if it's just inert biological material at that point?
And why are miscarriages such a big deal?
You can always make a new clump of cells.
This post has a lot of generalizations. First of all I don't think it's ridiculous to plan for a clump of cells if you're planning on bringing that clump to term, into a baby. It's like thinking about what you want to go to college for when you're 15. I mean, some people have their baby names picked out when they're kids, and the clump of cells does not even exist yet.
Miscarriages are a big deal for this reason. You plan for a kid, expect a kid, and then lose that kid? That feels like a loss, even if you can accept it isn't human. Like imagine getting promised a dream job and then a few days before you start work they're like, "hmm, nah."
You can always get another job, another dog, another car, etc. But it doesn't stop us from feeling the yearning pain of almost getting something we cannot have. Especially when it comes to something so near and dear as a child. People think their whole lives about, "Will I have a child?" and "Will I be a good parent?". To want that and have it taken away must fucking suck. It's not just a clump of cells to those people. It is the promise of a future. To others, that 'future' is just a clump of cells. And that's fine. Every person deserves the right to choose for themselves.
I don't really see how it's any different from masturbating and wasting sperm. It's totally unconscious. I feel worse about eating a steak than I do abortions. -
2020-10-19 at 8:58 PM UTC
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2020-10-19 at 9:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace You can always get another job, another dog, another car, etc. But it doesn't stop us from feeling the yearning pain of almost getting something we cannot have. Especially when it comes to something so near and dear as a child. People think their whole lives about, "Will I have a child?" and "Will I be a good parent?". To want that and have it taken away must fucking suck. It's not just a clump of cells to those people. It is the promise of a future. To others, that 'future' is just a clump of cells. And that's fine. Every person deserves the right to choose for themselves.
The thing is though, that's just not how scientific definitions work.
I don't think you directly claimed it was a scientific definition. But a lot of people do.
I'm pro choice, but I find it just entirely too casual to refer to it as merely a clump of cells with no value.
Especially when we start getting into particular trimesters. Is it still a clump of cells late into the third trimester? What particular biological change has to occur for it to go from "clump of cells" to "baby"?
I honestly don't believe that the psychological effects of a miscarriage are directly equivalent to simple disappointment (akin to not getting a particular job or getting into a particular school, etc). -
2020-10-20 at 12:26 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Using CDC numbers, the flu killed 24,000 - 62,000 in 2019. It infected 39,000,000 - 56,000,000. Using the highest estimates, this puts the mortality rate of the flu in 2019 at 0.0011%.
Using CDC numbers, the Coronavirus killed 220,000. It infected 8,190,000. Using these estimates, this puts the mortality rate for the Coronavirus at 0.0268%.
So my bad. You were actually right. The coronavirus isn't 12x as deadly as the flu. It's only 26x as deadly.
the cdc makes things up. Even before this "pandemic" I knew the cdc was gonna do something like this. -
2020-10-20 at 12:29 AM UTC
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2020-10-20 at 12:35 AM UTC
Originally posted by gadzooks Serious question…
Why do parents start thinking about names for their little clump of cells and planning baby showers if it's just inert biological material at that point?
And why are miscarriages such a big deal?
You can always make a new clump of cells.
yeah pretty much and a lot of women that have abortions end up have psychological trauma over it because they know deep down what they did was wrong.
But yeah its kinda strange how people think its not a human until it leaves the womb.. so like five seconds before it comes out its not a human so its kool to kill it? seems pretty evil, that and at a point fetus's do feel pain so you're making them suffer and tossing them away into trash, like i said it sounds pretty evil.
chzboogerz would told me several with a giddy smile on her face if she ever got pregnant with my kid she would abort it and not tell me.. just kind of weird to throw that out there.. and evil.. -
2020-10-20 at 12:42 AM UTCplz quit humanizing zygotes, douglas. its very unbecoming.
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2020-10-20 at 1:22 AM UTC
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2020-10-20 at 1:23 AM UTC
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2020-10-20 at 1:39 AM UTC