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  1. #61
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting You can distort with facts. Like concentrate on slavery, the holocaust, and everything mean a white person ever did.

    Don't cover anything anything good a white did, or anything bad a non-white ever did.

    Soon you have white kids convinced they're pure evil, no lies required.

    I actually at least somewhat agree with that.

    There was definitely a general tendency to discount the opinions of white people, and especially white males, under the assumption that we've been "heard enough" and now it's time to "hear the other side".

    I absolutely agree that it is not an ideal way to approach things.

    My primary original point, though, was about the actual facts being taught in classes. They do not teach straight up incorrect facts.

    At least, not in any of the hard sciences, or even most of the "soft" sciences (I was a psych major, and they actively encourage skepticism, in the upper level courses especially - but I took first year math, Chem, physics, bio, economics, etc).

    I did take a peek at a classmate's sociology textbook once, and one section of it presented a "theory" that all violence and crime in the world is a result of the patriarchy, including this story of a girl murdering a guy.

    Sociology is mostly a joke though.

    We're talking about the "hard" sciences like math, biology, medicine, etc.
  2. #62
    Originally posted by Kev walking for one kilometre would require food

    No it doesn't, just don't be a fatass that needs to eat a fucking cheesecake to walk to the store god damn why is everyone so fucking fat.
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  3. #63
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by infinityshock lovingly allowed lard-ass lanny the luxury of lapping the loins-leviathan while the little lad larps as a laotian ladyboy lapdancer---.-.-.-.-.---.-----.-.-.--.-.--.---.-.-.-.-.-.--.----.-.--.-.-.-.------.-.-.-..-.-.-.--.-.----------(b­anned) false

    ive been reading some history of WWII and what the western MINITRU (kike media) is saying is fully manipulated to make it seem more nefarious than it is.

    what germany did (in part) was literally what russia just did in 2014 with donbass

    All this aside, schools teach straight up incorrect facts all the time - bring me a science text book from today and one from 1965 and we can do a little cross referencing to see how many straight up incorrect facts they were teaching back then (even/especially in the hard sciences). It's not like that's magically stopped. 20 years down the line there are going to be average people with all kinds of stupid misconceptions they learned in college/high school and just assume are facts because they were taught that way.
  4. #64
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by infinityshock lovingly allowed lard-ass lanny the luxury of lapping the loins-leviathan while the little lad larps as a laotian ladyboy lapdancer---.-.-.-.-.---.-----.-.-.--.-.--.---.-.-.-.-.-.--.----.-.--.-.-.-.------.-.-.-..-.-.-.--.-.----------(b­anned) youre missing the part where i said they control their dissemination of information to impressionable minds that have already been trained since childhood to not be capable of forming their own thought processes independently in an effort to manipulate others.

    that would be accurate.

    go ahead and share with the class what is has to do with and what the kike-tainted curriculum has to do with

    If anyone is unlikely to be considered an "impressionable mind", it's the people within academia who make executive decisions regarding the educational curriculum.

    Do you have any idea of the rigor involved in researching, writing, and ultimately defending a doctoral thesis?

    There's a reason that something like 97% of academia believes in evolution, a round earth, and climate change.

    Regarding the humanities, though... It's kind of a different game entirely.

    I can't immediately disprove your personal pet theory that every humanities discipline is full of charlatans disseminating (edit: spellcheck) bullshit, but I will say that I trust the likelihood of a bunch of academics being right over somebody on the Internet referring to it all as the "kike curriculum".

    Your bias is not only showing, its outright shining like a super nova.
  5. #65
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Meikai All this aside, schools teach straight up incorrect facts all the time - bring me a science text book from today and one from 1965 and we can do a little cross referencing to see how many straight up incorrect facts they were teaching back then (even/especially in the hard sciences). It's not like that's magically stopped. 20 years down the line there are going to be average people with all kinds of stupid misconceptions they learned in college/high school and just assume are facts because they were taught that way.

    One difference here, though, is that people don't just pass down the information they received while they were learning it originally.

    The curriculum that is taught, whether grade school or university, is ultimately decided on by a community of educators, and updated yearly to keep up with changing facts.

    You might get the occasional rogue teacher like in Dead Poets Society, or even the Bible thumper discretely sliding some biblical explanations into the assigned biology syllabus, but they are the exception and not the norm.
  6. #66
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition


    lulzar

    the entire point of reforming math like this appears to be to make the methods and answers less objective so that you're not just either 'right' or 'wrong' and that points can be awarded for attempts.
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  7. #67
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by aldra

    lulzar

    I lol'd.

    But that's obviously incompetence and not jedi propaganda.
  8. #68
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by gadzooks But that's obviously incompetence and not jedi propaganda.

    I dunno

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8Nr3_2724
  9. #69
    aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    They essentially say they're trying to make math more 'accessible' for 'nonwhites' (ie. blacks and mexans) who typically don't perform well - as above this seems to be an attempt to make it more subjective so that students can be credited for the attempt rather than the correct method/answer.

    Math is not subjective though - I'm guessing educators are gambling that most public school students will never really need to use math in the real world because teaching these methods will simply lead to confusion and the need to re-learn math properly when they graduate and go to university or work in a field where it's required.

    They're sacrificing the nation's future workforce so that they can give black kids higher relative marks (the students that previously did well in math are often confused by the roundabout way CC does things).

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  10. #70
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by aldra I dunno

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ8Nr3_2724

    I feel like I'd need to see exactly what he modified about the curriculum before I decide whether he's a politically brainwashed dummy who should lose his job ASAP, or a well meaning person who made the most trivial of modifications like introducing black characters into a math word problem.

    He sounds like an asshat in that video, but unless he's altering known facts or trying to actively trying to turn kids gay or some such thing, I don't want to jump the gun.

    And also, judging by the reaction in that room, he may just be a lone actor in his cause.
  11. #71
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Wait, its the same teacher from the video who wrote that so called math "solution"?
  12. #72
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by aldra

    lulzar

    the entire point of reforming math like this appears to be to make the methods and answers less objective so that you're not just either 'right' or 'wrong' and that points can be awarded for attempts.

    The point of teaching math like this is to make it easier to solve more complicated equations later in life. This is clearly being taught to young children to help them form a basis for doing this with larger numbers. 113 x 57 is a bitch to solve in your head but if you break it down into smaller chunks, it becomes manageable. Maybe you just do (113 x 50) + (113 x 5) + (113 x 2). That's the kind of math common core is all about.
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  13. #73
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by aldra They essentially say they're trying to make math more 'accessible' for 'nonwhites' (ie. blacks and mexans) who typically don't perform well - as above this seems to be an attempt to make it more subjective so that students can be credited for the attempt rather than the correct method/answer.

    Math is not subjective though - I'm guessing educators are gambling that most public school students will never really need to use math in the real world because teaching these methods will simply lead to confusion and the need to re-learn math properly when they graduate and go to university or work in a field where it's required.

    They're sacrificing the nation's future workforce so that they can give black kids higher relative marks (the students that previously did well in math are often confused by the roundabout way CC does things).


    I agree 100% with all of this.

    The only thing I'm still not entirely convinced of, though, is precisely how extensive this problem is.

    If teachers like that become the majority, I would consider it an indisputable sign of the decline of Western civilization.
  14. #74
    What if I don't want to take 2 from 5 though
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  15. #75
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Meikai The point of teaching math like this is to make it easier to solve more complicated equations later in life. This is clearly being taught to young children to help them form a basis for doing this with larger numbers. 113 x 57 is a bitch to solve in your head but if you break it down into smaller chunks, it becomes manageable. Maybe you just do (113 x 50) + (113 x 5) + (113 x 2). That's the kind of math common core is all about.

    You're giving that teacher WAY too much benefit of the doubt.
  16. #76
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    It's literally just a different system for handling remainders.

    Like if we were adding

    0008
    + 05

    We'd get a 3 in the first column and add a 1 to the "ten" column. With common core you're just adding a 1 to the 10 column and then adding the remainder (3).

    Originally posted by gadzooks You're giving that teacher WAY too much benefit of the doubt.

    It's literally just common core math. It's a whole system and not unique to this one teacher. The kid just didn't really understand the question or the underlying principle, which is probably the teacher's fault. But the teacher is right - to make 10 when adding 8+5, you add 2 from the 5.

    ?_?
  17. #77
    It would be easier to add the two 5's plus 3 than taking a 2 from a 5 because that's more steps than adding two 5's
  18. #78
    Originally posted by gadzooks Admittedly, I did graduate from high school nearly 20 years ago, and in Canada.

    America (and maybe other countries) might be teaching straight up lies.

    But once I hit university, they essentially train you to think critically and to be able to refute everything you read.

    I wouldn't necessarily expect the same experience in every single major there is… (I.e. sociology, gender studies, etc), but what I did learn at the end of it all was that science is meant to be approached with skepticism.

    History too, kind of, but if you even question anything when it comes to the Holocaust or slavery, you'll probably end up ostracised by your colleagues.

    Other than those two hot button issues, skepticism is actually encouraged in uni, and at least somewhat in high school too even.

    Again, that's in Canada, and 20 years ago. So I admit I can't confirm it first hand regarding contemporary America.

    Science IS skepticism. If you question the world around you, trust in science
  19. #79
    gadzooks Dark Matter [keratinize my mild-tasting blossoming]
    Originally posted by Meikai It's literally just a different system for handling remainders.

    Like if we were adding

    0008
    + 05

    We'd get a 3 in the first column and add a 1 to the "ten" column. With common core you're just adding a 1 to the 10 column and then adding the remainder (3).



    It's literally just common core math. It's a whole system and not unique to this one teacher. The kid just didn't really understand the question or the underlying principle, which is probably the teacher's fault. But the teacher is right - to make 10 when adding 8+5, you add 2 from the 5.

    ?_?

    I get what you're saying, and in turn, I guess I now get what that teacher was trying to say...

    But, that explanation he gives is just plain shitty.

    At least use an analogy, like pieces of a pie or something, if you want to explain remainders.

    The way he explains it is incredibly confusing.

    I actually used to tutor kids in math way back when, and I can think of so many better ways to explain it over that trainwreck the teacher gave.

    Also, note that he adds 3 to the 10 at the end.

    As if it wasn't confusing enough.
  20. #80
    Meikai Heck This Schlong
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Science IS skepticism. If you question the world around you, trust in science

    Trust in the scientific method, sure. Trusting the results other people claim to have gotten whilst following the tenets of the scientific method isn't very skeptical of you though, bro.
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