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Voter Fraud in the US
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2020-10-19 at 1:49 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Hmm it appears from my county's website that it doesn't invalidate your first vote until the envelope signature comparison to your registration is approved and your second vote is tabulated. So you actually have to get a ballot in the mail, fill it out and mail it in with a matching signature.
I'm guessing this is pretty much the big stumbling block: you can order another ballot but if you tried to manipulate the votes, you will need to do it through a physical location where you can receive the mail, then mail it back. I'm pretty sure the FBI will come and physically fuck their ass very quickly and doubt they'll mail out ballots to Russia.
neanderthal couldnt count.
like FBI have time to investigate millions of double votes, and even if they do (they will not) itd take months.
a year even.
this isnt your small vilage we're talking about.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-10-19 at 1:50 PM UTC
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2020-10-19 at 2:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I initially saw this on 4chan, but it looks like news sites have been picking it up too as of late.
The short version is that in several US states, you can log into online vote systems using only a person's name and date of birth, and from there you can update their personal information such as address and party affiliation. You can request a 'replacement' ballot which can either be sent out to an address or filled in online, which will invalidate any ballot that person has previously received (if they have already cast a vote, it will not be affected).
https://www.theepochtimes.com/lax-online-security-appears-to-allow-cancelling-other-voters-mail-in-ballots-in-some-states_3543408.html
The thread on /pol/ claims to have been able to use this to access/revoke voter data in the following states:
Interestingly there have been stories in the past of people claiming their party affiliation had been changed (which in effect invalidates their votes for party primaries), but it's typically been dismissed as either them being idiots or a fault in the systems, ie.
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2020/05/no-elections-officials-didnt-change-oregon-voters-party-id-without-permission-they-say.html
With the sheer amount of personal information people make public online, it'd be entirely possible to scrape enough sets of details (basically just name and DOB) to cause havoc in swing states… And that's not even considering data aggregators like Pipl, i360 and whatever else.
The Dems can get all the DOB/names from their communist buddies at Facebook and Twitter, then hire online crews of leftist idiot children to manipulate all the voting data. -
2020-10-19 at 2:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
neanderthal couldnt count.
like FBI have time to investigate millions of double votes, and even if they do (they will not) itd take months.
I saw a study today that showed several states had well over 100% of the eligible voters (according to census data) on their voter rolls -
2020-10-19 at 4:50 PM UTCWe need to refuse to recognise the winner and sanction the US no matter who wins.
If they win that means they cheated. -
2020-10-19 at 9:18 PM UTC
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
neanderthal couldnt count.
like FBI have time to investigate millions of double votes, and even if they do (they will not) itd take months.
a year even.
this isnt your small vilage we're talking about.
Ok try to get millions of ballots sent to your house or any other set of facilities... are you retarded? Oh yes I forgot you are a LITERAL MONGOLOID -
2020-10-19 at 9:23 PM UTCI'll bet the winner won't be announced for days after the election. The Republicans are going to want to trace every singe vote, and they'll probably be going to court on every single fraudulent ballot they discover.
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2020-10-19 at 10:07 PM UTCPrevious votes are not canceled until the ballots are filled out, envelope signed and sent back in, signature verified (yes it happens before the vote is even tabulated), and the new vote is added. Then and only then is the previous vote voided.
So bottom line is this: it doesn't matter if you manage to change their registration info or get a ballot sent to another house. The person at that house then has to fill it out and send it in. Basically you are electronically recording then notarized and mailing in postmarked proof of your voter fraud.
Because, even assuming the perfect scenario of a coordinated distributed operation where millions of 4chaggots each attempt to steal a vote from a single Democrat they know: we will see a change in voting patterns statistically as well as... the ballots are not immediately sent so you cannot just change the address, request a ballot to such and such, then change it back so nobody sees. And if you don't change it back, the voter will be locked out of their vote tracking system. So you will submit the address change and it will show on your account but it is mailed out within 3 days or so. During this time if someone gets on and sees they are locked out, they will inquire what the fuck is up... non? Or they will see the ballot tracker and see they still-in-progress delivery and tabulation alongside your address.
This is severely illegal and also will make this a federal matter and USPIS will get involved. And they have always been notoriously ruthless. Same with Treasury agents. Do not fuck with the mail.
Tldr: this is not really that exploitable at the end of the day.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-10-19 at 10:10 PM UTCWe'll all see for ourselves how fraudulent it really is, when all the fraudulent Dem ballots are discovered and verified to be fraudulent.
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2020-10-19 at 10:21 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Previous votes are not canceled until the ballots are filled out, envelope signed and sent back in, signature verified (yes it happens before the vote is even tabulated), and the new vote is added. Then and only then is the previous vote voided.
I feel like the potential to exploit this differs by region; there was recently a federal advisory that this (ie. comparing signatures) should be done, but some have refused to in order to cut down processing time -
2020-10-19 at 11:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I saw a study today that showed several states had well over 100% of the eligible voters (according to census data) on their voter rolls
the US is decending into african-tier democracy.
wait till november when the allegation of voter frauds start to fly and armies of 'international observers' are called in to ensure a free and fair ellection. -
2020-10-19 at 11:39 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Ok try to get millions of ballots sent to your house or any other set of facilities… are you retarded? Oh yes I forgot you are a LITERAL MONGOLOID
^ neanderthal and its neanderthalic IQ.
it means millions of frauduellent voters asking for multiple ballots to increase their vote count since a name and a SSN can get multiple ballots a voter can just get a few of them and votes for the same candidate multiple times.
rohingyas are dumb. -
2020-10-20 at 4:03 AM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Hmm it appears from my county's website that it doesn't invalidate your first vote until the envelope signature comparison to your registration is approved and your second vote is tabulated. So you actually have to get a ballot in the mail, fill it out and mail it in with a matching signature.
I'm guessing this is pretty much the big stumbling block: you can order another ballot but if you tried to manipulate the votes, you will need to do it through a physical location where you can receive the mail, then mail it back. I'm pretty sure the FBI will come and physically fuck their ass very quickly and doubt they'll mail out ballots to Russia.
Yep. This thread is a whole bunch of nothing. Everything is verified. This is not some massive flaw allowing voter fraud. There is still absolutely zero evidence of any voter fraud.
Aldra reads threads on 4chan and gets excited -
2020-10-20 at 4:03 AM UTC
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2020-10-20 at 4:05 AM UTCFuck its so laughable that aldra thought he really had something here. As if they didn't think this through. Fucking lol.
As an actual American I've already had to go through verifying by mail for my mail in application -
2020-10-20 at 4:19 AM UTCYour IQ is too low for this thread. Get out.
You keep conflating voter registration with logging into an existing voter profile; the former is not being discussed at all. It's been demonstrated that in several states it is entirely possible to log into a voter profile, read and change information and request a ballot using only a name and DoB. In some of those states the simple act of requesting a 'replacement' ballot invalidates any unused ballots that person already has.
Comparing signatures to the voter roll is a federal guideline, not a requirement, and many states and regions have rejected it on the basis that it 'slows down the vote counting process'. This is largely irrelevant though because you do not need to submit a signature to log into the voter profile.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-10-20 at 4:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra Your IQ is too low for this thread. Get out.
You keep conflating voter registration with logging into an existing voter profile; the former is not being discussed at all. It's been demonstrated that in several states it is entirely possible to log into a voter profile, read and change information and request a ballot using only a name and DoB. In some of those states the simple act of requesting a 'replacement' ballot invalidates any unused ballots that person already has.
Comparing signatures to the voter roll is a federal guideline, not a requirement, and many states and regions have rejected it on the basis that it 'slows down the vote counting process'. This is largely irrelevant though because you do not need to submit a signature to log into the voter profile.
Right, I already told you all this. Are you stupid or something? -
2020-10-20 at 4:22 AM UTC
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2020-10-20 at 4:23 AM UTCSocial Security
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Social Security Legislative Bulletin
107-28
November 7, 2002
President Signs H.R. 3295, "Help America Vote Act Of 2002"
On October 29, the President signed into law H.R. 3295 (P.L. 107-252), the "Help America Vote Act of 2002." The bill, as approved, includes provisions concerning the use of Social Security numbers for voter registration, election administration, and computerized voter registration lists. See the provisions of interest described below.
Section 201
Establishes as an independent entity the Election Assistance Commission (the Commission). This Commission would serve as a national clearinghouse and resource for compiling and reviewing information with respect to the administration of Federal elections.
Section 244
Requires the Commission to submit the following reports to the President and Congress:
A report that examines the impact of section 303(b) (which would establish requirements for voters who register by mail) on voters who vote in person, voter registration, and accuracy of voter registration rolls.
A report prepared in consultation with the Commissioner of Social Security that discusses the feasibility and advisability of using Social Security numbers or other information compiled by SSA to establish voter registration or other election law eligibility or identification requirements. The report would include data on matching information to an individual voter, the impact of such use on national security issues, and whether adequate safeguards exist to protect the privacy of an individual voter.
These reports are due no later than July 1, 2005.
Section 303
Requires each State to develop and implement a computerized Statewide voter registration list. The list is to contain the name and registration information of every legally registered voter in the State. The State would assign a unique identifier to each legally registered voter. In addition, the section:
Requires applicants for voter registration for an election for Federal office to provide his/her driver's license number, if one has been issued, or, if none has been, the last 4 digits of his/her Social Security number. If the applicant does not have a valid driver's license or SSN, the State will assign a number, which will identify the applicant for voter registration purposes.
Requires the official responsible for the State Motor Vehicle Authority to enter into agreements with the Commissioner of Social Security to verify, upon request from the official responsible for the State Motor Vehicle Authority, that information submitted by the voter registrant matches the information contained in SSA's records. The information to be verified is:
The first name, and any family forename or surname;
The date of birth;
The Social Security number; and
Whether the individual is shown in SSA's records as being deceased.
Provides that verification agreements include safeguards to insure the confidentiality of any information disclosed as well as procedures to permit the State drivers' license agency to use the information to maintain its records, and that the Commissioner will determine how, where, and when the information requested by the State agency is provided.
Requires SSA to develop methods to verify the accuracy of information provided by the State drivers' license agency with respect to applications for voter registration, for whom the last 4 digits of a Social Security number are provided in lieu of a driver's license number.
Allows the Commissioner to not provide the match information to the State drivers' license agency if there are exceptional circumstances warranting an exception (such as the safety of an individual or interference with an investigation).
Requires information provided to be considered strictly confidential and used only for the purposes set out in the agreement, and establishes penalties for current or former State employees who otherwise disclose such information without the written authority of the Commissioner.
Makes the provisions of section 303 optional for certain States that, in accordance with the Privacy Act, are currently allowed to use Social Security numbers and provide for the use of SSNs on voter registration applications.
Specifies that the last 4 digits of a Social Security number, as described in this legislation, are not considered to be a Social Security number for the purposes of section 7 of the Privacy Act of 1974.
