2017-03-07 at 4:06 PM UTC
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2017-03-07 at 4:49 PM UTC
Thats just wikileaks. Do you have any mainstream media sources(e.g fox news) to back this up with?
Thought not, lol.
2017-03-07 at 5:01 PM UTC
Everybody has known this tho? How is this breaking news.
2017-03-07 at 5:55 PM UTC
So are PoC or technical descriptions part of the exploits part of the leak or do it just have documents suggesting such things exist?
2017-03-07 at 11:28 PM UTC
Jesus christ, I'm smashing all my electronics and going to live in the woods.
2017-03-08 at 12:01 AM UTC
The ramifications of this leak are absolutely staggering.
Not only do the CIA have tools that enable them to alter the fingerprints of intrusions to frame whoever they like for acts of cyber warfare but they've allowed - through the most stunning act of negligence possible - that tool set to leak out into the wider world... meaning it's not only already in the hands of every government - Russia, China, Israel, Germany, you name it - worth their salt but is also possessed by a potentially infinite number of non-state actors.
Make no mistake about this, folks: if Donald Trump is so inclined he now has the constitutional and legal pretext necessary to shut down the CIA and NSA and that's one of the less chaotic outcomes this could result in. At the very least it means that any evidence of "Russian" intrusion in the DNC is called into question.
Crazy, crazy times.
2017-03-08 at 12:57 AM UTC
The thing I find the most retarded about this, are the people that seem to be surprised that this can all happen. I mean, it's been known for a very long time that government agencies practice digital spying by using any electronic devices available.
It's always good practice to know your devices and physically disable things you won't need(camera, mic, Bluetooth, wifi, NFC, even speakers). Most people don't need to worry though, they are nobody's, and don't exist in the eyes of these government agencies. But some need to know certain rules...
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2017-03-08 at 1:05 AM UTC
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There is some important new information in there, but for the most part, it just reinforces what we already knew as a result of previous leaks such as Snowden and Binney. It gives concrete evidence and examples of their internal operations that we had to take on good faith previously.
I'll post a more detailed thread once I've read more of it but I think there are two major political points here:
1. Trump now has what he needs to prove how committed he is to 'draining the swamp'.
2. The evidence of direct attacks against so-called allies in the European Union is sure to cement Le Pen's victory and stir up even more anti-EU sentiment, leading to more right-wing and nationalist governments and hastening the collapse of the union.
2017-03-08 at 2:18 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra
1. Trump now has what he needs to prove how committed he is to 'draining the swamp'.
Lol, do people seriously believe Trump has ever, even for a vanishing instant, been serious about "draining the swamp"?
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2017-03-08 at 2:19 AM UTC
If anything we're going to see more funding to the betabet agencies, or a new agency altogether, in the name of trying to mitigate the leak.
2017-03-08 at 2:23 AM UTC
aldra
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whether you agree with him or not, he's gone a lot further in trying to realise his election promises than any other politician I can think of.
I'm not saying he necessarily will, by the way - I'm saying that he now has what he needs to do it, so the world will see how committed he is.
The best outcome is a new Church Commission, ideally reigning in the intelligence agencies and potentially laying criminal charges against the intelligence heads.
The more likely outcome is this being used as leverage to quietly push out Obama's holdovers, replacing them with Trump-friendly managers and business continues as usual.
I have very little faith in the public initiating a push against the intelligence establishment.
2017-03-08 at 2:40 AM UTC
Certainly Trump has made some high publicity overtures, usually in the form of EOs, towards making good on many of his campaign promises, although it's worth noting the mixed bag they represent in terms of results so far. But fine, let's be charitable and say he really has done his best to deliver everything he's promised. What has he promised re: the american intelligence community? That he's pro-spying on domestic citizen and that Snowden should literally be executed. He has no political obligation to care, to raise a finger on this issue, not even the weakest sort in the form of a campaign promise.
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2017-03-08 at 2:52 AM UTC
aldra
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Fair, but he's been remarkably inconsistent when it comes to that. I guess a lot of it depends on how he views their current attacks against him - whether they're a tool being used by people who want to attack him or dangerous and uncontrollable by design.
It's also interesting that a large volume of Trump supporters seem to support the betabet soup agencies unconditionally - there will be a large split between 'small government' constitutionalists and 'america firsters' in the Trump camp, so the path to alienate the least of his followers would probably be to make a spectacle of it that gives the illusion of justice without making any real change.
Though... He's not stupid. I suspect he knows people would see through that, especially the people who voted him in on the basis of 'cleaning up' or even just 'shaking up' the political system.
