2020-09-09 at 3:09 AM UTC
The largest navy in the world has only two aircraft carriers. The US has 43 active carriers 11 of which are nuclear powered.
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2020-09-09 at 3:23 AM UTC
They have a second one now?
I believe their first one was a 1980s (or was it 1970s) Soviet Carrier that Ukraine had, rusting away in Crimea. A businessman in Macau bought it in order to allegedly transform it into a Casino. Then it became the pride of peoples liberation navy.
What's their second carrier?
2020-09-09 at 3:37 AM UTC
while do I think people overhype china (it sells newspapers/generates clicks), I also don't think they should be taken too lightly. The best way to keep peace is to deter them from doing anything stupid, and the best way for that to happen is continued US naval dominance, and to arm their neighbours to the teeth with anti-ship and anti-air missiles. Make the decision to stay peaceful really easy for them - the more their economy slows, the more it might appeal to their leadership to do something militarily as a distraction.
2020-09-09 at 3:39 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed
while do I think people overhype china (it sells newspapers/generates clicks), I also don't think they should be taken too lightly. The best way to keep peace is to deter them from doing anything stupid, and the best way for that to happen is continued US naval dominance, and to arm their neighbours to the teeth with anti-ship and anti-air missiles. Make the decision to stay peaceful really easy for them - the more their economy slows, the more it might appeal to their leadership to do something militarily as a distraction.
Trump is on it.
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2020-09-09 at 5:03 AM UTC
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aircraft carriers are only good for menacing brown people
2020-09-09 at 5:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra
aircraft carriers are only good for menacing brown people
We could be menacing the brown people with WWII equipment, they wouldn't know the difference.
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2020-09-09 at 5:07 AM UTC
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would be a lot cheaper too
2020-09-09 at 5:24 AM UTC
Id wager carriers just arent much use to china. They do a lot more with cyber warfare, bioweapons and mechanized infantry. Unless they wanted to do bombing runs into the heartland, i cant imagine what use theyd have. Wed just fire a ton of missles at it anyway
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2020-09-09 at 5:25 AM UTC
US carriers are actually effective platforms for fighter jets, I know the first PRC carrier wasn't.
I am pretty sure the US considers a sinking a carrier equivalent to an attack on the US itself. So it's very much a case of sailing in contested waters and seeing if the Chinese want to start a nuclear war over their territorial claims.
2020-09-09 at 5:41 AM UTC
aldra
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Originally posted by CASPER
Id wager carriers just arent much use to china. They do a lot more with cyber warfare, bioweapons and mechanized infantry. Unless they wanted to do bombing runs into the heartland, i cant imagine what use theyd have. Wed just fire a ton of missles at it anyway
Like I said, modern missile tech has made carriers obsolete. In the case of actual war and not just posturing, it would be far too dangerous for carriers to be deployed anywhere near the theatre because there is no way to protect them from Chinese DDF21Bs or Russian Kinzahls, for example. Further to that I have no doubt any capable adversary would actively hunt them (even outside of active warzones) just for the morale hit.
The only instance they're (militarily) effective is when they're able to attack with impunity against countries that have no effective anti-air or hypersonic/ASBM capabilities, ie. menacing brown people.
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2020-09-09 at 8:58 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed
US carriers are actually effective platforms for fighter jets, I know the first PRC carrier wasn't.
I am pretty sure the US considers a sinking a carrier equivalent to an attack on the US itself. So it's very much a case of sailing in contested waters and seeing if the Chinese want to start a nuclear war over their territorial claims.
^ thinks world politics is as simple as red alert games he played/plays.
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2020-09-09 at 9:06 AM UTC
Grylls has to have sex with people from the third world because even the local council estate slags have better prospects.
2020-09-09 at 9:27 AM UTC
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