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Why is the USPS losing funding? What’s wrong with mail in voting?
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2020-08-15 at 4:50 PM UTC
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2020-08-15 at 4:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Erekshun Now let me also say the latina was married. She was cool and the sex was good but she was still married. I didn't know until her husband called me. She told me her husband was in what she called a syndicate. Must be latino for a gang. She said half her family was in it. Then she told me (she was back home at the time) that there was a gunfight next door where she lived (the neighbors were family), so I broke it off, I could see this getting ugly and I wanted no part of it. But larry and squirrel only heard her part of the story (they are only e-friends) so I became a limpdick drunk because the scorned latino lied, but they bought it. That's who larry and squirrel are.
So your real screen name should be "NO EREKSHUN"? -
2020-08-15 at 5:01 PM UTC
Originally posted by aldra no I mean specifically how the establishment and media have been trying to undermine the election results for the last four years - the constant drumbeat of 'not my president', 'get rid of the electoral college', 'he was only elected thanks to foreign interference' etc. has eroded trust in the institution to an extreme degree.
combined that with the extreme polarization of the people (ie. Trump voters believe a Biden presidency will turn into an overt anti-white police state and Biden voters think Trump's going to be president for life and destroy the country) and people will think their candidate losing is an existential threat that they can't allow
What you're missing is that there is actually a supernatural element involved here, and in a big way. The active spirits of the world, if you will. The active spirit of good and evil at play. Higher forces are battling for position. The bad aliens vs the good aliens and the Creator himself. Trump is merely a catalyst for a much larger operation we are witnessing playing out. This is end game for this corrupt and stinking and rotten system of things. -
2020-08-15 at 5:02 PM UTC
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2020-08-15 at 5:10 PM UTC
Originally posted by -SpectraL What you're missing is that there is actually a supernatural element involved here, and in a big way. The active spirits of the world, if you will. The active spirit of good and evil at play. Higher forces are battling for position. The bad aliens vs the good aliens and the Creator himself. Trump is merely a catalyst for a much larger operation we are witnessing playing out. This is end game for this corrupt and stinking and rotten system of things.
So...what you are saying is..."TRUMP IS THE DEVIL?"
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2020-08-15 at 5:25 PM UTCTrump Admits He’s Blocking Postal Cash to Stop Mail-In Votes
President Donald Trump frankly acknowledged that he’s starving the U.S. Postal Service of money in order to make it harder to process an expected surge of mail-in ballots.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
PUBLISHED 14 AUGUST 2020
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump frankly acknowledged Thursday that he’s starving the U.S. Postal Service of money in order to make it harder to process an expected surge of mail-in ballots, which he worries could cost him the election.
In an interview on Fox Business Network, Trump explicitly noted two funding provisions that Democrats are seeking in a relief package that has stalled on Capitol Hill. Without the additional money, he said, the Postal Service won’t have the resources to handle a flood of ballots from voters who are seeking to avoid polling places during the coronavirus pandemic.
“If we don’t make a deal, that means they don’t get the money,” Trump told host Maria Bartiromo. “That means they can’t have universal mail-in voting; they just can’t have it.”
Trump’s statements, including the false claim that Democrats are seeking universal mail-in voting, come as he is searching for a strategy to gain an advantage in his November matchup against Joe Biden. He’s pairing the tough Postal Service stance in congressional negotiations with an increasingly robust mail-in-voting legal fight in states that could decide the election.
In Iowa, which Trump won handily in 2016 but is more competitive this year, his campaign joined a lawsuit Wednesday against two Democratic-leaning counties in an effort to invalidate tens of thousands of voters’ absentee ballot applications. That followed legal maneuvers in battleground Pennsylvania, where the campaign hopes to force changes to how the state collects and counts mail-in ballots. And in Nevada, Trump is challenging a law sending ballots to all active voters.
His efforts could face limits. The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday rebuffed Republicans who challenged an agreement in Rhode Island allowing residents to vote by mail through November’s general election without getting signatures from two witnesses or a notary.
For Democrats, Trump’s new remarks were a clear admission that the president is attempting to restrict voting rights.
Biden said it was “Pure Trump. He doesn’t want an election.”
Colorado Secretary of State Jena Griswold said it was ” voter suppression to undermine the safest method to vote during a pandemic, and force Americans to risk their lives to vote.”
Negotiations over a big new virus relief package have all but ended, with the White House and congressional leaders far apart on the size, scope and approach for shoring up households, reopening schools and launching a national strategy to contain the coronavirus.
While there is some common ground over $100 billion for schools and new funds for virus testing, Democrats also want other emergency funds that Trump rejects.
“They want $3.5 billion for something that will turn out to be fraudulent. That’s election money, basically,” Trump said during Thursday’s call-in interview.
Democrats have pushed for a total of $10 billion for the Postal Service in talks with Republicans on the COVID-19 response bill. That figure, which would include money to help with election mail, is down from a $25 billion plan in a House-passed coronavirus measure.
Postmaster General Louis DeJoy has said that the agency is in a financially untenable position, but he maintains it can handle this year’s election mail. A major donor to Trump and other Republicans, DeJoy is the first postmaster general in nearly two decades who is not a career postal employee.
“Although there will likely be an unprecedented increase in election mail volume due to the pandemic, the Postal Service has ample capacity to deliver all election mail securely and on-time in accordance with our delivery standards, and we will do so,” he told the Postal Service’s governing board last week.
Memos obtained by The Associated Press show that Postal Service leadership has pushed to eliminate overtime and halt late delivery trips that are sometimes needed to ensure mail arrives on time, measures that postal workers and union officials say are delaying service. Additional records detail cuts to hours at post offices, including reductions on Saturdays and during lunch hours.
Democrats, and a handful of Republicans, have sent DeJoy several letters asking him to reverse his changes and criticizing what they say is a lack of openness by the agency. Late Wednesday, Senate Democrats again wrote DeJoy, this time saying postal leadership is pushing state election officials to opt for pricier first-class postage for mail-in ballots to be prioritized.
“Instead of taking steps to increase your agency’s ability to deliver for the American people, you are implementing policy changes that make matters worse, and the Postal Service is reportedly considering changes that would increase costs for states at a time when millions of Americans are relying on voting by mail to exercise their right to vote,” the Democrats wrote.
Separately, in a letter last month, the Postal Service warned Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson that the agency might not be able to deliver ballots in time to be counted under the state’s deadlines for casting mail-in votes.
Postal Service spokesman David Partenheimer said in a statement that “certain deadlines concerning mail-in ballots, may be incompatible with the Postal Service’s delivery standards,” especially if election officials don’t pay more for first-class postage.
“To the extent that states choose to use the mail as part of their elections, they should do so in a manner that realistically reflects how the mail works,” he said. -
2020-08-15 at 5:51 PM UTCFirst this:
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting IMO third party delivery services like UPS, DHL, etc need to be shut down. There isn't any real justification for more than one postman, and staff need to be well paid, with good benefits, pensions, etc.
Then this:
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting The US post office has been shit for 30 years now.
Aren't you embarrassed to live in such a failing country?
And to blame an Orange Fruit for all your problems?
Whatever fits your agenda at the time. You are such a hypocrite🙄 -
2020-08-15 at 5:52 PM UTC
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2020-08-16 at 9:35 PM UTCHey Lanny this is in the wrong forum, can you move this to the conspiracy forum?
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2020-08-16 at 9:47 PM UTCStill grumpy?
Maybe a cookie will help🍪 -
2020-08-16 at 10:13 PM UTC
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2020-08-16 at 10:36 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting What the fuck are you even trying to reference? Sesame Street or something?
Nope. You read wayyyyyy too much into my statements. You’ve been extremely angry lately, just thought a cookie would cheer you up and help you not feel like such a victim😁🍪 -
2020-08-16 at 10:41 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Nope. You read wayyyyyy too much into my statements. You’ve been extremely angry lately, just thought a cookie would cheer you up and help you not feel like such a victim😁🍪
I'm fat enough already, I don't eat sugary things.
I can't help but notice that whenever I point out specific ways white people get shit upon you go crazy, making fun of my observations.
I mean since white people are responsible for everything bad that happens in the world, including the dysfunction of Africa, I would assume you'd be quite eager to justify such discrimination as necessary to protect humanity? -
2020-08-16 at 10:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Why would a president want to make it difficult for voters to vote in a general election? I truly don’t understand this. I’d think any candidate would want all the possible votes they can get🤷♀️
Our POTUS has admitted to intentionally holding back funding so the post office can’t support mail in voting.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/08/13/trump-admits-to-blocking-usps-postal-service-funding-over-mail-in-voting/amp/
The USPS is as American as apple pie. Hell, it’s written into our constitution, but trump is trying to drive it into the ground and admits it. They already lost funding for OT, and mail is running behind by 2-3 days in many areas.
The claims that mail in voting is unreliable, or easily corrupted, are exactly that, just claims, there is absolutely no evidence to prove mail in voting doesn’t work. It has been working well in many states for years. Of course there’s always an exception of some small time scheme, but never anything on a grand enough scale to change an election result.
https://www.brookings.edu/policy2020/votervital/how-does-vote-by-mail-work-and-does-it-increase-election-fraud/
trumps peeps are suing in Pennsylvania to stop mail in voting. A federal judge gave trumps peeps till today to prove mail in voting is fraudulent.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/08/13/judge-orders-trump-campaign-to-provide-evidence-of-mail-in-voting-fraud-in-pennsylvania/amp/
I don’t know if they produced proof or not, I don’t see anything.
And of course the reason the American public want mail in balloting……Covid. Why would a pres want people to risk their live to perform their civic duty? Many of his voters are elderly, what is he thinking?
Wow I think that’s the longest opening I’ve ever written.
Thoughts?
If something important was being deciced in your life, say in a court of law. Would you want a solid chain of evidence or would mail in evidence be ok with you. -
2020-08-16 at 10:46 PM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker If something important was being deciced in your life, say in a court of law. Would you want a solid chain of evidence or would mail in evidence be ok with you.
Aren't these the same people who fight against voter ID requirements as being racist.
It's pretty standard in every country in the world, even in Africa, that you might (but probably won't) be asked for ID when you go to vote. It's just standard that you might have to establish your identity when you exercise any civic function.
Imagine declaring that foundational civilisational concept to be mean and evil and white supremacy. -
2020-08-16 at 10:47 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting I'm fat enough already, I don't eat sugary things.
I can't help but notice that whenever I point out specific ways white people get shit upon you go crazy, making fun of my observations.
You are one of the few who feels like the white man is being shit on.I mean since white people are responsible for everything bad that happens in the world, including the dysfunction of Africa, I would assume you'd be quite eager to justify such discrimination as necessary to protect humanity?
White people aren't responsible for everything, I’ve never once said that; you put that in my mouth, not me.
Soi the spin master! Yay you! -
2020-08-16 at 10:50 PM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist You are one of the few who feels like the white man is being shit on.
Most smart white people feel that way.White people aren't responsible for everything, I’ve never once said that; you put that in my mouth, not me.
Soi the spin master! Yay you!
So we aren't responsible for peanut butter and Goldman Sachs.
But everything else is our fault. -
2020-08-16 at 10:52 PM UTC
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