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Scientists Predict There's 90% Chance Civilization Will Collapse Within 'Decades'
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2020-08-07 at 1:56 PM UTCI'm just curious why a Canadian (I think) would post a link to an Indian newspaper article about an event in Canada
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2020-08-07 at 3:20 PM UTC
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2020-08-07 at 3:25 PM UTC
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2020-08-07 at 3:34 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting Yeah it's a good question.
But it isn't an excuse to fuck up the planet on ourselves either.
Were fucking it up in plenty of ways but we arent warming it, that is not possible. you should be welcoming warming, considering the earth spends 90% of its time in an ice age. -
2020-08-07 at 4:15 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev Were fucking it up in plenty of ways but we arent warming it, that is not possible. you should be welcoming warming, considering the earth spends 90% of its time in an ice age.
The problem is that when the ice that is currently on land melts sea levels will rise.
And that might happen anyway, but we shouldn't speed it up. -
2020-08-07 at 4:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev Its from this page. https://www.globalresearch.ca/climate-science-observations-versus-models/16865
The X axis is 1000 years, it is the global temperature from 2000 BC to 2008 AD.
The same graph from that page, 2000 BC to 1900 AD.
yeah i'm SO SURE they knew the EXACT temperature in 1400 BC -
2020-08-07 at 4:22 PM UTC
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2020-08-07 at 5:07 PM UTC
Originally posted by the man who put it in my hood yeah i'm SO SURE they knew the EXACT temperature in 1400 BC
Actually they very well might. One very interesting method is to drill a core of glacial ice, a very deep drill. These glacial deposits were created over many years of snowfall, with air from the upper atmosphere trapped inside the frozen water. Based on the interaction of this air with the temperature on the ocean and forming glacier, it has varying patterns of crystal formation. You can differentiate their cooling gradients and make some reasonably accurate estimates, and test the air itself for chemical composition to exactly determine CO2 levels etc. The deeper you go, the older the ice gets and this can also be deduced to a pretty high degree of accuracy.
There is an extreme amount of rigor in climate science. Nobody should doubt climate science. It is legitimately insanely impressive the degree to which we can study the history of our planet by the impact of the weather, there is geological and meteorological history imprinted upon the natural landscapes of our world even now. -
2020-08-07 at 5:09 PM UTC
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2020-08-07 at 5:32 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting The problem is that when the ice that is currently on land melts sea levels will rise.
And that might happen anyway, but we shouldn't speed it up.
The warming period will not last, very soon it will start dropping and unlike the last 10000 years there will not be another one in an extremely long time. humanity will be wiped out. although we cant delay it if we tried, i would be welcoming it if i believed we could warm the planet. if it happens 300 years from now instead of 200 i consider that a gift.
also realize that more CO2 means more vegetation which means more life. things were rarely this vibrant. -
2020-08-07 at 6:26 PM UTC
Originally posted by Kev You dont need the exact temperature, you only need the inference. like how thermal vision doesnt show you the temperature in degrees but shows you the range.
It's a science. Science evolves. Claiming to be 100% sure of anything is idiocy. Chances are we're "detecting" global warming simply because our measurement tools are more complex than ever before.
For all we know, the elimination of rain forests replaced with palm trees etc. and global warming will be to the benefits of humans in the long run in some unforeseeable way. -
2020-08-07 at 6:58 PM UTC
Originally posted by Splam It's a science. Science evolves. Claiming to be 100% sure of anything is idiocy. Chances are we're "detecting" global warming simply because our measurement tools are more complex than ever before.
For all we know, the elimination of rain forests replaced with palm trees etc. and global warming will be to the benefits of humans in the long run in some unforeseeable way.
More farmable in the north. -
2020-08-07 at 9:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by MORALLY SUPERIOR BEING 2020 IV: Intravenous Soyposting It seems like people more or less admit the climate is getting warmer, and human activity is the cause.
thats what humanity has been doing since prehistoric times.
in the past mayans believe they were the cause of "unhealthy" weather and performed human sacrifices to appease their gods. and not just mayans, human from a diverse cultures in every continents has been blaming themselves everytime theres natural disasters or unfavorable weathers.
and now theyve decided to sacrifice our cheap energy on the altar of science to appease their climate change deities. -
2020-08-07 at 9:41 PM UTC
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2020-08-07 at 9:43 PM UTC
Originally posted by ORACLE Actually they very well might. One very interesting method is to drill a core of glacial ice, a very deep drill. These glacial deposits were created over many years of snowfall, with air from the upper atmosphere trapped inside the frozen water. Based on the interaction of this air with the temperature on the ocean and forming glacier, it has varying patterns of crystal formation. You can differentiate their cooling gradients and make some reasonably accurate estimates, and test the air itself for chemical composition to exactly determine CO2 levels etc. The deeper you go, the older the ice gets and this can also be deduced to a pretty high degree of accuracy.
There is an extreme amount of rigor in climate science. Nobody should doubt climate science. It is legitimately insanely impressive the degree to which we can study the history of our planet by the impact of the weather, there is geological and meteorological history imprinted upon the natural landscapes of our world even now.
stop talkimg about something you have no idea of.
your bangladeshi brain doesnt have the computing power to talk about these complicated subjects. -
2020-08-07 at 11:55 PM UTC
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2020-08-08 at 4:52 AM UTCConsidering the vast amounts of land in Canada and Siberia that'll become farm able... sweet. AFAIK we'd gain more land than we'd loose in terms of farming.
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2020-08-08 at 5:49 AM UTC
Originally posted by Splam Considering the vast amounts of land in Canada and Siberia that'll become farm able… sweet. AFAIK we'd gain more land than we'd loose in terms of farming.
If I put ice in a glass, fill the glass with water and wait the water level goes down ever so slightly becasue water expands when it frezees. -
2020-08-08 at 6:45 AM UTC
Originally posted by Speedy Parker If I put ice in a glass, fill the glass with water and wait the water level goes down ever so slightly becasue water expands when it frezees.
Farm land, silly. There's more land around 60 degree north than there is around equator. It would open up Canada and Russia to become multi billion people countries. -
2020-08-08 at 7:39 AM UTC