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Progressives are the most graceless winners ever.
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2020-07-22 at 1:21 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 1:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by street_carp I live in a country that still has a gender wage gap in favour of men, so I find it improbable that at any time soon, an independent, non-EU United Kingdom is going to let a tranny drink my milkshake. The EU might be veering Left, but the UK is going Right, whether I personally like it or not.
There is no gender wage gap. If that was true companies would hire all women and no men.
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2020-07-22 at 1:31 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 1:51 AM UTC
Originally posted by Obbe He means working with a particular skill set, someone who does a particular job and then stops for a year is going to be a little rusty at that particular job versus someone who was still doing that job for the last year.
Right. It's not working professionally. But there's a strong case to be made that the work in raising a child is the most important work any of us will ever do. -
2020-07-22 at 1:59 AM UTCMaybe if the UK had someone like Kanye to give all the baby mommas a million quid we wouldn't have a gender wage gap
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2020-07-22 at 1:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by street_carp It was a territorial army advert that used the poem outright, that I can't seem to find online for dear life. I was able to find a bunch of very recent examples (some within the last four years) of ads that borrow the format and cadence of If-. It's absolutely engrained in the british psyche for some reason.
You know it will be erased, sooner rather than later. They were already vandalising his statue 2 years ago. Will it still be standing in 20 years?
The same will happen to Churchill too, eventually. Maybe 50 years.
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/jul/19/manchester-university-students-paint-over-rudyard-kipling-mural
Originally posted by street_carp Lol Rhodes was not progressive even for the Victorian era.
There is a point in history in which he would have been progressive. That's my point. Not everyone on the right is a 'fascist' btw, the same way not everyone in the left is say, a trotskyist.
Originally posted by street_carp I never made a complaint about how left or right the UK is, I only said that it is moving right. It is currently more right than it has ever been in my lifetime.
Maybe you're not that old?
You're taking a super narrow view of this. "oh, we're more to the left than we were 20 years ago!" (very debatable, but I'll leave it for the sake of argument). So? If you look at a long time horizon, the left always wins. Relax, this is just a bump on the road to progress (or perdition). -
2020-07-22 at 2:30 AM UTCI will only speak about what I know. I'm old enough to remember every Prime Minister from John Major onwards. To be perfectly honest, very little had changed since Blair was prime minister until the EU referendum, that was the knell that signified that the public had really shifted to the Right.
You're really focusing on shit that a very small minority of people are doing. I would fucking lol if hundreds of thousands of people went out and tore down every monument to a Conservative figure or event but it's just not happening. The high street in my middle sized town is lined with St George's crosses.
People love Churchill to the point where his flaws are unmentionable in mainstream media. They don't even know why beyond "Churchill won the war, innit".
Don't worry rabbit, the Tory's are still doing a bang up job of indoctrinating the yoof here in merry Old England.
Edit: And piss off about Rhodes being progressive at any point in time, he was a vile bastard and you're just saying that to twist my nips you cunt. -
2020-07-22 at 4:46 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed I cannot believe how upset they have gotten over the last 4 years, as if they're actually in danger of losing.
Progressives still have, and will continue to have:
- almost all media outlets
- k through 12 education
- almost all universities, including all the ivy league
- public policy, as manufactured through the above
- the civil service
They've also constructed an immigration system that will simply render the republican party non-viable in a decade or two, even if all whites vote republican. No republican administration has been able to make a dent - the US is still getting browner under 'white nationalist' trump.
yet they gnash their teeth as if they've been greatly wronged by a temporarily elected president who has to operate within their permanent structures. A 'right wing' president who supports gay marriage, which wasn't even a mainstream democrat position 20 years ago.
Take a critical look at all this. 'left' and 'right' aren't two equal and opposite forces. All the power structures we have drift leftwards, and the right simply follows along, every so often declaring 'here and no further!', only to limp along to the next progressive frontier. if it's n years until the left endorses bestiality, it's n +20 years before the right follows suit.
Under this system, progressivism will always win.
PS: This same pattern plays out in every western country. Boris Johnson is far to the left of Thatcher. Much closer to Tony Blair.
says the one with a pussy for a PM.
literally a pussy.
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2020-07-22 at 5:11 AM UTCWhy are so many people here too thick to realise that I use 'america' in these posts because it's the country we're all the most familiar with?
"DURR you live in New Zealand"- The exact some patterns play it in every western country, more or less. Which is why I was able to immediately debate with street carp with the exact same premise, just substituting tory for republican.
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2020-07-22 at 5:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed Why are so many people here too thick to realise that I use 'america' in these posts because it's the country we're all the most familiar with?
"DURR you live in New Zealand"- The exact some patterns play it in every western country, more or less. Which is why I was able to immediately debate with street carp with the exact same premise, just substituting tory for republican.
Maybe I need to start adding explicit disclaimers.
Lolz "why don't they understand my IQ" -
2020-07-22 at 5:15 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed Why are so many people here too thick to realise that I use 'america' in these posts because it's the country we're all the most familiar with?
"DURR you live in New Zealand"- The exact some patterns play it in every western country, more or less. Which is why I was able to immediately debate with street carp with the exact same premise, just substituting tory for republican.
Maybe I need to start adding explicit disclaimers.
Pretty sure America isnt a country.. i think most of us live in either the united states or canada, which is in north America a continent, you stupid bitch -
2020-07-22 at 5:17 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 5:17 AM UTC'America' is a common term for the United States of America. For example in Donald Trumps 2016 campaign, 'Make America Great Again" referred to the United States, not two continents.
Hope this helps. -
2020-07-22 at 5:18 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 5:19 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 5:19 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 5:24 AM UTC
Originally posted by rabbitweed Why are so many people here too thick to realise that I use 'america' in these posts because it's the country we're all the most familiar with?
"DURR you live in New Zealand"- The exact some patterns play it in every western country, more or less. Which is why I was able to immediately debate with street carp with the exact same premise, just substituting tory for republican.
Maybe I need to start adding explicit disclaimers.
theres no parrallel between naz-iland and the united states.
the united states is a propositional country (not that i know what that means) while naziland still has a little red asterisk on their flag.
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2020-07-22 at 5:31 AM UTC
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2020-07-22 at 7:25 AM UTCLeft and right are really unhelpful terms, as they were invented and promoted to keep people divided.
The problem with progressives is that their energy has been co-opted to build a neo-liberal hell and they know it.
They promote immigration, which leads to lower wages, overcrowding, homelessness, failure of unions, and increased competition for jobs, which suits the rich just fine.
They promote domestic liberalism which leads to corporatism, degeneration of popular culture and civic virtue, and that suits the rich just fine.
They promote activist foreign policy (think of the kids!), which leads to foreign interventions and constant, unending war, which suits the rich just fine.
A lot of effort has been expended in dividing Americans into two angry and dumb camps, and cos they both feel indignant and threatened they can easily be lead around by the nose.
The system has been set up such that Americans will never unite to fight the rich, fix their healthcare, stop the wars, stop mass-immigration, stop financial exploitation, stop corporate abuse of human rights like the right to privacy, balance their budget, address their massive social problems like opiate use, etc.
It's a shit situation, and both sides know they are to blame.
Progressives need to focus on very minor things that don't really matter much at all, like cop shootings and trans rights, because they know that they are creating a hell and trying to convince the world that it is a heaven.
And Gronmgnld Troihnp. -
2020-07-22 at 8:21 AM UTCDommald Turnip