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  1. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Greek Style Left wing argumentation is always along the lines of "just read our holy documents again until you get it".

    Well it's not going to tell you that you're on the verge of being dominated by racial minorities like the daily stormer so you're not gonna get a lil chubby from it. No point in you reading it.
  2. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Obbe No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service**

    Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs

    Trump knew since March 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops, yet he has done nothing

    May 2020, the White House attempted to end National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits

    The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government

    Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew

    After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"

    20/7/2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"

    Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019)

    Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection

    Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange

    There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility

    Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

    10/7/2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces

    Trump sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11

    Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there

    Sept 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall

    Aug 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling."

    Veterans graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property

    Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)

    2/8/2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall

    31/7/2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals

    Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported 17/7/2019)

    Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (4/7/2019)

    Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported 2/7/2019)

    June 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"

    Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (6/6/2019)

    Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported 4/6/2019)

    Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported 4/6/2019)

    27/5/2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

    Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (15/5/2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (27/5/2019)

    Trump purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) (reported on 13/5/2019)

    Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (16/4/2019)

    20/3/2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

    Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise

    He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

    He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published 18/1/2019)

    He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (16/1/2019)

    When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019)

    He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)

    He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

    He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)

    He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

    Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't

    He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays

    He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

    He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

    He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

    He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

    While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain – other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

    He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)

    He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

    Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported October 7, 2018)

    Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

    Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

    He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

    He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)

    He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

    He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

    He deported veterans (2017-present)

    He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

    Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes)

    Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

    Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

    Trump sent funds raised from a Jan 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)

    Trump said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

    Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who were not caught (July 18, 2015)

    Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)

    For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. 1991

    I'm not going to analyse the whole list, but just on the face of it at least a few are either fabricated, insubstantiated or phrased in such a way to obscure the real reason it was done.


    Does it not make you suspicious that the mainstream media have not attacked previous presidents in such a way?
  3. Greek Style Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by aldra I'm not going to analyse the whole list, but just on the face of it at least a few are either fabricated, insubstantiated or phrased in such a way to obscure the real reason it was done.They


    Does it not make you suspicious that the mainstream media have not attacked previous presidents in such a way?

    In fairness they attacked Bush the Younger, and even Reagan.

    Even though those people were totally controlled, you know who flip out when whites try to assert self determination.
  4. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by Greek Style In fairness they attacked Bush the Younger, and even Reagan.

    Not in the same way or to the same degree. I can't say I was old enough to remember anything about Reagan but I definitely saw plenty of Bush.

    I'm not talking about general or policy criticism, I'm talking about the constant nitpicking about phrasing, the 'fact checks' and these running tallies of everything he's done 'wrong'. It stands out in peoples' minds because it's so unprecedented. Trump is the worst because there's nothing to compare his litany of errors to.

    In a recent article Saker, who was in Military force planning in the USSR and lived through the collapse, mentioned that he'd not seen the media go after any politician, let alone an elected president, as hard as Trump... Neither in the former USSR, Russia, France or the US.
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  5. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra Not in the same way or to the same degree. I can't say I was old enough to remember anything about Reagan but I definitely saw plenty of Bush.

    I'm not talking about general or policy criticism, I'm talking about the constant nitpicking about phrasing, the 'fact checks' and these running tallies of everything he's done 'wrong'. It stands out in peoples' minds because it's so unprecedented. Trump is the worst because there's nothing to compare his litany of errors to.

    In a recent article Saker, who was in Military force planning in the USSR and lived through the collapse, mentioned that he'd not seen the media go after any politician, let alone an elected president, as hard as Trump… Neither in the former USSR, Russia, France or the US.

    The fact that you look at the media and not Trump as the reason for this says it all.
  6. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    ...that I think the media should be impartial?
  7. Greek Style Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by larrylegend8383 The fact that you look at the media and not Trump as the reason for this says it all.

    Grown men are talking.
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  8. POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    the media was always pretty much truthful until the internet came along and the law that no one would be responsible for untruths posted on the interweb.
    then big dogs started buying up all the media, the lies started flowing and the true Karen was born.
    8 company's own 100 news outlets.
  9. Greek Style Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by POLECAT the media was always pretty much truthful until the internet came along and the law that no one would be responsible for untruths posted on the interweb.
    then big dogs started buying up all the media, the lies started flowing and the true Karen was born.
    8 company's own 100 news outlets.

    There's no money in media any more, so the only people who go into that field tend to be losers and activists.
  10. aldra JIDF Controlled Opposition
    Originally posted by POLECAT the media was always pretty much truthful until the internet came along

    kek

    more along the lines of nobody was able to call the media dishonest because there was no alternative
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  11. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by aldra …that I think the media should be impartial?

    Again you think negative press is because of the media and not Donald Trump. If you do and say stupid shit on the national stage, you're going to get negative press. How is that difficult to understand?

    To even compare Trump to other presidents and the press they received is a joke.

    The closest comparison would probably be Pat Buchanan. And look at the coverage he received. He wasn't as successful with his brand of bullshit but I'm sure that would've been a difference story had there been social media for conservatives to like, share and retweet.
  12. Technologist victim of incest
    Originally posted by larrylegend8383 Again you think negative press is because of the media and not Donald Trump. If you do and say stupid shit on the national stage, you're going to get negative press. How is that difficult to understand?

    To even compare Trump to other presidents and the press they received is a joke.

    The closest comparison would probably be Pat Buchanan. And look at the coverage he received. He wasn't as successful with his brand of bullshit but I'm sure that would've been a difference story had there been social media for conservatives to like, share and retweet.

    Awww come on now Larry. trump is a victim😂
  13. Greek Style Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by larrylegend8383 If you do and say stupid shit on the national stage, you're going to get negative press.

    I don't believe you even believe that.
  14. Technologist victim of incest
    Originally posted by Greek Style I don't believe you even believe that.

    Ok Soi,
    Give me 5 examples where trump deserved positive press. Bet cha can’t think of 5.
  15. POLECAT POLECAT is a motherfucking ferret [my presentably immunised ammonification]
    I would but I find it pointless to argue with nutters
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  16. Technologist victim of incest
    C’mon Pole, give me 5 things trump has done that deserves positive press, just 5. You can do it big boy.
  17. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Not everything Trump has done is bad. Some forms of criminal justice reform was long overdue.

    Trump is definitely a victim though

    a victim of shitting in his own mouth
  18. Technologist victim of incest
    Ok, we got 1, 4 more to go.
  19. larrylegend8383 Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by POLECAT I would but I find it pointless to argue with nutters

    That's funny you say that because back on dh the Trump train was parked squarely in nutter central.
  20. Greek Style Tuskegee Airman
    Originally posted by Technologist Ok Soi,
    Give me 5 examples where trump deserved positive press. Bet cha can’t think of 5.

    What does deserve positive press even mean? IMO Trump has done nothing good, just like his predecessors going back at least to the 60s.
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