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2020-06-13 at 7:22 PM UTCYeah I mean he was a decent sponsor i guess. Idk. But hes younger and successful and good looking and wealthy, suma cum laude at a prestigious university, and his biggest hangup was “acting out sexually” which just means cheating on his fiance. just miles away from my situation.
Im always open to advice, but most of the time,i just feel like that advice is generic and not particularly suited to my situation. I dont do faith. I want pragmatic solutions to my problems and a clear roadmap for how to get to where i want to be, and no ones seemed to ever offer that. -
2020-06-13 at 7:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Do they just assign you a sponsor or how does that work?
No its kind of just roll of the dice. My sponsor came up to me at the first meeting and introduced himself. A few meetings in he offered to walk me through step work and a couple meetings after that we “made it official” lol.
Hes genuinely a really nice guy, but i found myself resenting him a lot for being so perfect. And constantly comparing myself to him made me feel like an even bigger loser. Like hes farther ahead at 29 than ill probably be if i made it to 40.
His $26k engagement ring got stolen out of his car and he had to go out and get another one, and i was like “huh. Thats what i make in two years” -
2020-06-14 at 2:13 PM UTC
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2020-06-15 at 3:21 AM UTC
Originally posted by CASPER Its a failure if the child becomes a point of contention and a frain on your money and energy when youre already exhausted battling your own demons. Child support. What if she gets fed up and calls the cops about your drug habit. Or says you hit her. I just cant imagine bringing a kind i to this world if i wasnt 100% physiclaly, spiritually, emotionally, financially ready to be the best father i could be to that child. Obv there are exceptions and life just happens, but thats why ill prolly never have a child.
well big homie if you wait for what you consider to be the absolutely perfect moment to do something (especially to start something long term like a child or a job) you end up missing a lot. I'm in a pretty good situation, my girlfriend less so but having a sudo baby inside her will fix her brain and she'll be on the perfect track after that. Or maybe not, who knows? either way theres Love for it and it won't be starving. Bitch is trying to yell less and Im trying to be less flighty-go-cheaty when we aren't getting along. The intention is there
Itll be exhausting and stressful but those are the biggest things I see, nothing else really, life is fucking hard and has been for me my whole life. This kid is going to know a better life than I had and I know some things not to do.
Anyways, suboxone+isotrenazine is the new combo to get me off the dillzThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-06-15 at 9:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by Sudo well big homie if you wait for what you consider to be the absolutely perfect moment to do something (especially to start something long term like a child or a job) you end up missing a lot. I'm in a pretty good situation, my girlfriend less so but having a sudo baby inside her will fix her brain and she'll be on the perfect track after that. Or maybe not, who knows? either way theres Love for it and it won't be starving. Bitch is trying to yell less and Im trying to be less flighty-go-cheaty when we aren't getting along. The intention is there
Itll be exhausting and stressful but those are the biggest things I see, nothing else really, life is fucking hard and has been for me my whole life. This kid is going to know a better life than I had and I know some things not to do.
Anyways, suboxone+isotrenazine is the new combo to get me off the dillz
Will you be raising your child Muslim? If it's a girl will you make her wear a niqab? Not trying to be trite. But if i were especially religious and had a child underway, i would be asking myself those questions, but with a different flavor of Abrahamic, you see. -
2020-06-15 at 1:33 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Will you be raising your child Muslim? If it's a girl will you make her wear a niqab? Not trying to be trite. But if i were especially religious and had a child underway, i would be asking myself those questions, but with a different flavor of Abrahamic, you see.
I thought you were Christian. Don't all these Abrahamic religions teach that you should 'educate' your children? And if you think your religion is true, why wouldn't you want them to know about it?
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2020-06-15 at 2:16 PM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace I thought you were Christian. Don't all these Abrahamic religions teach that you should 'educate' your children? And if you think your religion is true, why wouldn't you want them to know about it?
I do think it has counter productive effects tho if you actually want them to believe. Exposing and teaching are two very different things.
That's the thing. My grandparents were Christian. Protestant to be exact. They didn't raise my mother Christian, but she did grow up with Christian socio-cultural values. Which is a good thing if you ask me. Now my mother didn't raise me to be religious, and i used to be a militant atheist. But then i got older, and i started learning about Christian theology and Christian philosophy. Which are two things that are exceptionally profound and useful even if you remove every metaphysical aspect from it. It softened my stance on religion dramatically, because now i'm like; oh, i get it. The bible was written by very intelligent people, and for the last 2000 years very intelligent people have studied it also and i don't think it's appropriate or desirable to hand waive that away as; Yeah, but sky dads aren't a thing.
It is desirable in my view to have a population of a country be Christian as opposed to any other belief system. Personally, i don't know if God exists or not, but i want Him to exist. And sometimes when i think deeply about God i think i know what it means and how it feels to believe. But i can't in good faith(Pardon the pun) say God exists yes or no definitively.
It's kind of funny because my gf is very Catholic and you could say i'm agnostic, but if it were a competition i'd be a better Christian than she is, not on the nature of my character, but on technicality. Lol. But it's not a competition, and i'm still trying to figure out whether i should Pascal's Wager this plane of existence or not and just hope for the best. -
2020-06-15 at 2:17 PM UTCSorry i got way off track, i have thought very long and hard about this. What i am saying is, IDK. So IDK what i would do.
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2020-06-15 at 2:30 PM UTCThe failure of modern Christianity is that no one knows about Christianity, really. Except for on a shallow level. And i blame The Church. Everything is dumbed down for mass appeal. Sorry, that's not how you religion properly.The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-06-15 at 2:37 PM UTCHello Sophie. I hope all is well with you and in your world.
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2020-06-15 at 2:39 PM UTC
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2020-06-15 at 2:41 PM UTCGood.
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2020-06-15 at 2:42 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie That's the thing. My grandparents were Christian. Protestant to be exact. They didn't raise my mother Christian, but she did grow up with Christian socio-cultural values. Which is a good thing if you ask me. Now my mother didn't raise me to be religious, and i used to be a militant atheist. But then i got older, and i started learning about Christian theology and Christian philosophy. Which are two things that are exceptionally profound and useful even if you remove every metaphysical aspect from it. It softened my stance on religion dramatically, because now i'm like; oh, i get it. The bible was written by very intelligent people, and for the last 2000 years very intelligent people have studied it also and i don't think it's appropriate or desirable to hand waive that away as; Yeah, but sky dads aren't a thing.
It is desirable in my view to have a population of a country be Christian as opposed to any other belief system. Personally, i don't know if God exists or not, but i want Him to exist. And sometimes when i think deeply about God i think i know what it means and how it feels to believe. But i can't in good faith(Pardon the pun) say God exists yes or no definitively.
It's kind of funny because my gf is very Catholic and you could say i'm agnostic, but if it were a competition i'd be a better Christian than she is, not on the nature of my character, but on technicality. Lol. But it's not a competition, and i'm still trying to figure out whether i should Pascal's Wager this plane of existence or not and just hope for the best.
Do you also hold stock in the Chinese 5000 years of knowledge just because it's old and widely believed?
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2020-06-15 at 2:45 PM UTC
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2020-06-15 at 2:46 PM UTCAlso 'old and widely believed' is not a reason i gave for being interested in Christianity. It is much deeper than that.
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2020-06-15 at 3:08 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie Why would it be any other way? Growing up in a socio-culturally Christian country you get a head start in the study of Christianity.
Seems pretty closed minded to me. "My religion is the right one" - every religion ever.
"No really, mine is the right one!"
I mean you know Judaism just formed out of monolatristic religion right? Thousands of years of polytheism and then some people were like, 'Nah lets just focus on this Yaweh dude he seems cool). I guess they didn't get it right till 1AD when Jesus came around? Then after that they threw out text after text and made edit after edit to the bible. The Christianity you believe in is not the same as the Christianity early Christians believed in, or even the Christianity that medieval Christians believe in. I suppose you are just trusting King James VI/I and ever other revisionist to have sorted through all the correct texts? Or do you believe in all the apocryphal texts as well?
What is the basis for believing your religion is true? Feeling? How is that any different from any other religion? And what do you think about the fact that Christians in a few hundred years will not believe in the same things as you do?
Religion is a fluid thing nigga. It's like taking a jug of water from a stream and being like, "Ah yes, this is the best water in the entire stream right here. Why? Well it's in my jug of course!"
I don't have an issue with people believing in God but I do have a problem with organized religion and thinking you need a set of rules to be a moral person. 99% of Christians don't follow the bible anyway. I mean holy shit let's just take a brief look
Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19 (check your clothing tags heathen)
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads. Leviticus 19:27 (YOU CAN'T CUT YOUR HAIR THIS WAY)
All that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you. Leviticus 9:10 (all the time not just during lent)
Remember when Jesus killed a tree for no reason? You wanna tell me what sort of meaning you gain from this? Fuck fig trees?
Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, "May you never bear fruit again!" Immediately the tree withered. Matthew 21:18-22 NIV
Do you think we should bring back slavery as well?
You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
You ever fight with your parents?
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
Fuck cripples as well. Don't let them in my church.
Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookback, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken ... He shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries. Leviticus 21:17-23 KJV
And I KNOW you swear
Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place. Ephesians 5:4 NIV
Let's not forget EXODUS and the ten commandments. Tell me, do you wear a cross. Does your Church display the cross, or pictures of Jesus?
You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
And I'm curious, WHICH of the hundreds of Christian sects is the right one? I would like to know which particular version of which particular God I need to pray to if I want to get into heaven. -
2020-06-15 at 3:13 PM UTCThe new testament is literally just a bunch of people in the year 200 who decided to sit down and write a bunch of shit. It was the thing to do and then they stopped adding it. I guess God hasn't wanted to talk to anybody in 1800 years because.... ???
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2020-06-15 at 3:23 PM UTCI just told you i was agnostic. Also don't take the Bible literally you mong. "Look at this text, it says silly things! Therefore 2000 years of study is invalid!"
Lol the supreme arrogance. It's not so much about the exact wording as it is about trying to teach people how to be good, moral people. Just because you misunderstand the meaning doesn't mean it's meaningless, fam.
And that's all i'll say on the subject. Make a new thread if you really want to do this song and dance with me. -
2020-06-15 at 3:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Sophie I just told you i was agnostic. Also don't take the Bible literally you mong.
I wasn't talking to you specifically. Just a general 'you'.
And lol, if you aren't supposed to take it literally you are just going off what, interpretations. Whose interpretation. What gives them the divine right to speak on these matters? There are all kinds of priests and there is no unanimous interpretation.
I agree that people shouldn't take it literally, but I also think people shouldn't take it seriously either. Spirituality is meant to be fluid, not set by a list of rules and scat-shattered ideological dumps that need to be interpreted before you can apply it to your daily life. This whole idea of interpretation just stems from when it was only the priests who were literate, and thus controlled things like money/food/supplies and often times used it for their own advantage. You had to rely on their interpretation because you literally had no other choice.
If people make their own individual interpretations then the whole idea of having an organized religion in the first place falls apart. Gays can't marry? Fuck you, I think they can. We can't eat fish? Fuck you, I'm going to eat salmon. Slowly over the centuries we have dropped more and more of this strict religious doctrine as we've adopted a more liberalized society. Interpretations change, as does the religion itself. There is no set 'Christianity'. -
2020-06-20 at 6:23 PM UTCwow shut the fuck up §m£ÂgØL nobody cares about your fedora ass failure of a life. You are below average in intelligence and social mobility and dont have one excuse for it
