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What’s wrong with mail in ballots for the 2020 election?
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2020-06-10 at 7:35 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson You cant, that's why it's a bad idea.
Scenario…dude lives with his elderly parents, dude uses elderly parents mail in ballots to vote for who he wants…3 votes, 1 dude. Elderly parents continue oblivious eating their chocolate pudding and shitting in their adult diapers thinking Regan is still president.
well at least in that scenario the votes came from actual people.
if they're really good at rigging votes all actual ballots will just end up in recycling plants and the ballots that ended up in counting stations are fake, pre-crossed ballots.
no one can tell the difference. -
2020-06-10 at 7:35 PM UTC
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2020-06-10 at 7:36 PM UTC
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2020-06-10 at 7:36 PM UTC
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2020-06-12 at 12:15 PM UTChttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/minuscule-number-of-potentially-fraudulent-ballots-in-states-with-universal-mail-voting-undercuts-trump-claims-about-election-risks/2020/06/08/1e78aa26-a5c5-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html?outputType=amp
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/494189-lets-put-the-vote-by-mail-fraud-myth-to-rest?amp
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trumps-latest-voter-fraud-misinformation/
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/false-narrative-vote-mail-fraud
Oh and look, they have steps in place to verify voter identification.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/verification-of-absentee-ballots.aspx
Why wouldn’t any official want everyone voting? Hmmmmm. -
2020-06-12 at 12:46 PM UTCYou should probably learn how politics work. (and copy/paste less).
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2020-06-12 at 11:06 PM UTC
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Anyone too lazy and fat not to get off their ass and leave the house to do their duty should not only have their right to vote taken from them but should also be executed as a traitor.
"Anyone not stupid enough to participate in a farce of a democracy should be executed for not wasting their time propagating the myth of popular representation in the American election process"
You're a real patriotThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-06-13 at 12:39 PM UTC
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2020-06-13 at 1:48 PM UTC
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2020-06-13 at 2:16 PM UTC
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2020-06-13 at 3:32 PM UTCNothing wrong with "mail-in" or "absentee" ballots... so long as, each vote submitted has a person's official ID or driver's license # proving they are; indeed, an American citizen, officially registered to vote, proving they are 'one person, who has one vote.'
Until ALL states approve of such ID requirements, then yes... I believe it would be too easy for "fraudulent" ballots to be entered/ to happen.
So, why won't some/all states agree to such an easy solution? Why not have such a voting requirement? So, fraud would have no way of happening? that's the 'real' question, me thinks. -
2020-06-13 at 3:38 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr Nothing wrong with "mail-in" or "absentee" ballots… so long as, each vote submitted has a person's official ID or driver's license # proving they are; indeed, an American citizen, officially registered to vote, proving they are 'one person, who has one vote.'
Until ALL states approve of such ID requirements, then yes… I believe it would be too easy for "fraudulent" ballots to be entered/ to happen.
So, why won't some/all states agree to such an easy solution? Why not have such a voting requirement? So, fraud would have no way of happening? that's the 'real' question, me thinks.
how we spossed to know if they dead already or not tho -
2020-06-13 at 4:08 PM UTCPole, I don't have all the dang answers!
I would suppose, tho, if they were 'dead' they wouldn't be able to give a 'finger-print' for a new ID or driver's license or be able to get- new identification.
I just support the idea of having to register our personal ID# on our voter registration & how that helps ensures a valid registered voter = "ONE person, ONE vote," scenario. -
2020-06-14 at 1:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by Solstice There are known knowns and there are known unknowns but there are also unknown unknowns. Things we dont know that we dont know.
unknown unknowns are things that are already known to us, they're known knowns because the only way we can not know a not known is by knowing it. -
2020-06-14 at 1:32 PM UTC
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2020-06-15 at 4:37 PM UTC
Originally posted by Netflxchillr Pole, I don't have all the dang answers!
I would suppose, tho, if they were 'dead' they wouldn't be able to give a 'finger-print' for a new ID or driver's license or be able to get- new identification.
I just support the idea of having to register our personal ID# on our voter registration & how that helps ensures a valid registered voter = "ONE person, ONE vote," scenario.
That's not going to stop people like my forcing your wife/husband/son/daughter/grandparents etc to vote how I say.
That's the problem with this remote shit, all the precautions in the world doesn't stop the fact that vote could have been placed under duress...harder to do that when you are in a voter booth on your own.
"Yes honey, I voted the way you told me too"...
"good, now lets go eat, you can have 1/2 a chicken breast on your house salad as a reward"The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire! -
2020-06-15 at 4:47 PM UTC
Despite this dramatic increase in mail voting over time, fraud rates remain infinitesimally small.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/false-narrative-vote-mail-fraud -
2020-06-15 at 4:48 PM UTCWell it's impossible to measure isn't it if people are getting away with it...
It's also not really relevant to a NEW system...
I used to tell both my ex-wives how to vote and they did as daddy told them. -
2020-06-15 at 5:09 PM UTCHow'd that work out for you?
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2020-06-15 at 5:22 PM UTC
