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What’s wrong with mail in ballots for the 2020 election?

  1. OMG LOL some of these go decades back lolololololol.

    Yeah good find retard. Some dude offered beer for votes back in 2006. That'll totally effect the election this year.
  2. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by ORACLE Once again rightards scaremonger and blame the left for some shit they really want to do themselves first

    So you were saying.....


    Florida
    1992
    Hardee County
    Judicial Finding
    Election Overturned
    Three campaign supporters illegally submitted absentee ballots during the 1992 Hardee County sheriff election. Although a grand jury found that no criminal intent was involved, the election was thrown out and a new one was ordered.

    Source: bit.ly/2sVDrTB

    Connecticut
    1991
    Curtis Mouning
    Civil Penalty
    Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
    Curtis Mouning, a campaign volunteer for State Representative Mario Testa during the 1990 election, admitted to signing the names of five of his friends and family members to request absentee ballots to vote in the primary. He was ordered to pay a civil penalty to the Connecticut Elections Enforcement Commission in the amount of $500.

    Source: bit.ly/2tNpunG

    Connecticut
    1988
    Ernest Newton
    Criminal Conviction
    Fraudulent Use Of Absentee Ballots
    Ernest Newton, a former state senator, agreed to pay a civil penalty of $1,000 for assisting in filling out someone else's absentee ballot. Newton illegally filled out and mailed an absentee ballot for Ada Crosby. The fraud occurred in the 1988 primary while Newton was a state senate candidate in the 124th District. Following his election, he was imprisoned after accepting a bribe, using campaign contributions for personal expenses, and failing to report improper income on his federal tax return. In 2015, Newton was sentenced to six months' imprisonment for campaign finance violations stemming from having three campaign workers fraudulently sign donation cards in order for the campaign to reach the threshold to qualify for state matching funds.

    Source: bit.ly/2oK27sa, cour.at/2pm8u8S, bit.ly/2pmpSKO

    North Carolina
    1986
    41 Individuals
    Criminal Conviction
    Buying Votes
    Project Westvote was a massive investigation by the FBI into endemic vote-buying operations in western North Carolina. The operation netted 41 convictions in counties throughout the western part of the state.

    Source: bit.ly/1H42waR, bit.ly/1Fl8F7y

    New York
    1983
    Vander Beatty
    Criminal Conviction
    False Registrations
    Vander Beatty, a former New York state senator, was convicted of multiple criminal charges, including forgery and conspiracy, in relation to election fraud. He led others in a scheme to forge hundreds of voter registration cards to challenge the result of the 1982 congressional primary that he lost. He was sentenced to 16 months in prison and fined $5,000.

    Source: nyti.ms/2tJ258c, nyti.ms/2t9s6eE, thebea.st/2tDIAPG

    Hawaii
    1982
    Ross Segawa, Clifford Uwaine, Debra…
    Criminal Conviction
    False Registrations
    In 1982, 27 individuals participated in an illegal scheme to boost Honolulu voter registrations for candidate Ross Segawa. Segawa was convicted on 10 counts of election fraud, criminal solicitation, and evidence tampering. Segawa served a year in prison and was expelled from law school. State Sen. Clifford Uwaine was convicted of conspiring to illegally register voters and served three months in jail; and Debra Kawaoka, an aide to Uwaine who also played a part in the false registration, served numerous weekends in prison. Brian Minaai and the other students each pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor.

    Source: bit.ly/2fbLvIW

    Illinois
    1982
    63 Individuals
    Criminal Conviction
    False Registrations
    A DOJ investigation of the Illinois election in 1982 estimated that 100,000 fraudulent ballots were cast in the gubernatorial primary. The investigation was tipped off by a party worker from Chicago's 39th Ward who was upset by his precinct captain's broken promise to award him a city job for his participation in the vote fraud scheme. The conspirators cast ballots for people who were elderly and disabled. The investigation resulted in 63 individuals being convicted, the largest voter fraud case in DOJ history.

    Source: bit.ly/2uVkBtT

    California
    Fernando Osorio
    Criminal Conviction
    False Registrations
    Fernando Osorio, of Kern County, claimed he was not a citizen on a jury summons, but claimed that he was one on a subsequent voter registration form. On May 3, he pled nolo contendere to one charge a fradulent vote, resulting in a fine of $480 and a one-year probationary period.

    Source: bit.ly/2KLW84i, bit.ly/2Zl4lo8, bit.ly/2RHSdtf, Case Number: BM928349A

    Oklahoma
    Max Burchett
    Criminal Conviction
    Ineligible Voting
    Max Burchett of Washington County, pleaded guilty to one count of voting illegally, a felony. He was sentenced to a one-year suspended sentence, a year of probation, and ordered to pay $554 in restitution.

    Source: go.aws/2VRhem6
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  3. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace OMG LOL some of these go decades back lolololololol.

    Yeah good find retard. Some dude offered beer for votes back in 2006. That'll totally effect the election this year.

    Exactly retard. Voter fraud is real and mail-in makes fraud easier.
  4. Ghost Black Hole
    You don't need to spam, we all know Trump is gonna win no matter what because Americans will never allow a one term president, it hasn't happened in over 20 years so why would it happen now?

    Do you really think people hate trump more than George Dubya bush who won twice? He was way worse but it's just not the culture to do a one term president anymore. Most countries have had the same leaders for many years like Putin and Merkel.

    it's just how the world is now. Are you all really that out of touch?
  5. Speedy Parker Black Hole [my absentmindedly lachrymatory gazania]
    Originally posted by Ghost You don't need to spam, we all know Trump is gonna win no matter what because Americans will never allow a one term president, it hasn't happened in over 20 years so why would it happen now?

    Do you really think people hate trump more than George Dubya bush who won twice? He was way worse but it's just not the culture to do a one term president anymore. Most countries have had the same leaders for many years like Putin and Merkel.

    it's just how the world is now. Are you all really that out of touch?

    You are using a word you don't know the meaning of.
  6. mmQ Lisa Turtle
    Whoever wins will win strictly due to fraudulence. Nothing is real anymore. God is dead and no one cares. Hail Satan.
  7. Ghost Black Hole
    Originally posted by Speedy Parker You are using a word you don't know the meaning of.

    okay infinityshock calm down

    Originally posted by infinityshock lovingly allowed lard-ass lanny the luxury of lapping the loins-leviathan while the little lad larps as a laotian ladyboy lapdancer---.-.-.---------------.----.----------.-.-.-.----.----------------------.-.---.----.--------------,--(b­anned) people keep using that word

    i dont think that it means what they think that it means
  8. Originally posted by Technologist I know. I haven’t read all this spam, but it looks like most of them are singular or a small group of people. Nothing that would have any affect on the outcome; and they were prosecuted.

    But I’m sure speedcuck is just getting out his frustrations, let him vent🤯


    😂

    Yep. It's crazy how anybody could be so deluded as to think this is significant. I find that a lot of these alt-right people make sweeping conclusions of their own rather than listen to what the experts have to say.

    If they listened to the experts, they would know that in the end, all of these cases didn't matter, and didn't effect the election. It never has. What effects the election FAR more is Russian influence. I know I'm not the only one who has seen a massive increase in right wing comments online. This is already known. We've already investigated. There is no question about whether Russians are influencing the election to try and get Trump to win. There's also no question about whether it's largely Republicans who are trying to stop people from voting, and are getting caught destroying ballots. Been a few cases this year already. A lot more relevant than these cases from fucking 2006...
  9. Originally posted by Ghost You don't need to spam, we all know Trump is gonna win no matter what because Americans will never allow a one term president, it hasn't happened in over 20 years so why would it happen now?

    Do you really think people hate trump more than George Dubya bush who won twice? He was way worse but it's just not the culture to do a one term president anymore. Most countries have had the same leaders for many years like Putin and Merkel.

    it's just how the world is now. Are you all really that out of touch?

    Uhhhhh...
  10. George Bush approval rating before 2nd term election- 49%

    Obama approval rating before 2nd term election- 52%

    Trump approval rating before 2nd term election- 38%


    This is similar to OG Bush (37%) and Jimmy Carter (40%) who didn't get a 2nd term.
  11. Just make sure you have lots of Ammo by the weekend folks, you wont be able to buy any next week that's for sure...
  12. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson So the popular vote doesn't count or matter right…?

    It matters in that it represents the will of the people.

    It doesn't matter to who becomes president, because with the Electoral College system you can technically win with only 22% of the popular vote.
  13. Originally posted by ORACLE It matters in that it represents the will of the people.

    It doesn't matter to who becomes president, because with the Electoral College system you can technically win with only 22% of the popular vote.

    but why only complain after 250 years after the system has begun ?
  14. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny but why only complain after 250 years after the system has begun ?

    Mongoloid^

    Most people concerned today were not alive 250 years ago.
  15. Originally posted by ORACLE Mongoloid^

    Most people concerned today were not alive 250 years ago.

    ^ neanderthal doesnt know 250 year old system includes people from 8 years ago.



  16. Originally posted by ORACLE Mongoloid^

    Most people concerned today were not alive 250 years ago.

    Never mind that people alive today HAVE tried to abolish it. We almost did in 1970. They've been talking about abolishing it since 1787 when it was created.

    The point of the electoral college, both in 1787 and today, is to empower white male land owners. The electoral college gave power to states with the highest population, rather than those which simply had the most white male land owners. It's fucked up. Nobody's vote should be more or less powerful than anyone else's.

    And don't even get me started on faithless electors. Anybody who thinks the electoral college is a good idea is fucking retarded.

    Thank God Biden is starting a reform commission.
  17. Ghost Black Hole
    Too bad he's gonna lose

  18. Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Never mind that people alive today HAVE tried to abolish it. We almost did in 1970. They've been talking about abolishing it since 1787 when it was created.

    The point of the electoral college, both in 1787 and today, is to empower white male land owners. The electoral college gave power to states with the highest population, rather than those which simply had the most white male land owners. It's fucked up. Nobody's vote should be more or less powerful than anyone else's.

    And don't even get me started on faithless electors. Anybody who thinks the electoral college is a good idea is fucking retarded.

    Thank God Biden is starting a reform commission.

    FYI mexhico doesnt have ellectoral colleges.

    and yet you wouldnt want to be masters in your own "native" country but rather be a hitchhiker in an evil, racist country that does.



    have problemos with ellectoral colleges ? move south.
  19. Ghost Black Hole
    lol

  20. ORACLE Naturally Camouflaged
    The electoral college system was created for when niggas on literal horseback used to have to literally travel literal to Washington DC to deliver the votes representing their state. It's totally obsolete now.
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