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The secretary of defense that Trump chose is now comparing him to the Nazis
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2020-06-04 at 4:03 AM UTCI actually did, and I also know enough about what was going on militarily at the time to disregard most of it as irrelevant fluff
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2020-06-04 at 4:06 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace What you described is literally comparing him to Nazis. He's not calling him racist, or a Nazi, or anything else. He's just comparing. And Trump uses similar tactics so the comparison is adequate.
Let me compare Obama to Nazis: Obama doesn't divide anyone. Never called his enemies thugs. Never made a boogeyman. Didn't instill fear into citizens. Didn't divide the country like Trump has.
And 'maliciously destroy the country'…. what? It's not like Hitler tried to do that either. God, not even fucking Pol Pot tried to destroy his country. Evil often comes with the best intentions.
point here is he painted the nazis as the aggressors and trump as a US leader who was acting in a fashion to make their job easier. two separate parts of the equation. I guess it's easy for people who read/write vice to jump on the 'trump is a nazi' hype train, but that doesn't make it make sense. -
2020-06-04 at 4:08 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I guess I was right.
I didn’t say you were wrong. I was showing you other reasons why he may have left.
Yeah and he fucked the Kurds leaving Syria, Mattis wasn’t the only one to disagree on that move, he just had the balls to walk away. Trump lost everyone with any integrity, all he has is lackeys in there now. -
2020-06-04 at 4:09 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra I actually did, and I also know enough about what was going on militarily at the time to disregard most of it as irrelevant fluff
Then you should know that his comparison to Trump was not regarding his war-mongering.
This is pretty much implied with any high level member of US government. Are they hypocrites? Well, YES. Fuck. There are very, very, very few 'good' forces in geopolitics.
But the points about Trump still stand. You can't ad-hominen your way out of it and I don't know why you are even trying. You can't vote for Trump so what does it matter who says what about him as long as it's true? -
2020-06-04 at 4:10 AM UTCaldra is just a wannabe republican. If he could register to vote for Trump, he would. He would also buy a gun and some fireworks, and probably embrace Memphis bbq as the superior grilling marinade.
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2020-06-04 at 4:10 AM UTCwhich it is
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2020-06-04 at 4:11 AM UTC
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2020-06-04 at 4:13 AM UTC
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2020-06-04 at 4:13 AM UTC
Originally posted by Technologist Yeah and he fucked the Kurds leaving Syria, Mattis wasn’t the only one to disagree on that move, he just had the balls to walk away. Trump lost everyone with any integrity, all he has is lackeys in there now.
Are you aware that roughly 80% of the so-called SDF (western-supported 'Kurdish militias') was made up of PKK, Kurdish separatists from Turkey who are a proscribed terrorist group?
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace aldra is just a wannabe republican. If he could register to vote for Trump, he would. He would also buy a gun and some fireworks, and probably embrace Memphis bbq as the superior grilling marinade.
I would probably vote for Biden, it'd be way funnier -
2020-06-04 at 4:16 AM UTC
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2020-06-04 at 4:17 AM UTC80% huh? Where'd you get that number? Turkey?
You don't seem to like any kind of non-government group. You shit on protesters of any kind any chance you get and even with the HK protests I saw you blaming the violence on 'protesters' and not just some small group of the fucking 15% of the population that showed up to their protests. -
2020-06-04 at 4:20 AM UTC
Originally posted by aldra you say this like it's not the logical position
Because it's not. The entire argument relies on the idea that German documents were falsified. I'm sure you watched some good documentary that had an explanation for it though, while simultaneously ignoring any information that proposes opposing information.
I trust in History, and the extensive documents that the allied forces recovered from the Germans. People like you throw around the 6 million number but nobody claims it's exact or anything. The general estimate is about 5-6 million based on German documentation, and not just the words of that one historian who threw out the 6 million number he heard from somebody. This shit was debunked back in 1949. -
2020-06-04 at 4:20 AM UTClocal sources actually, both within the SDF and the Syrian civilians. There was actually a lot of unrest related to how much the PKK/YPG were exploiting the locals, ie. stealing their supplies and pressing them into military service but very little of it made it into the Free Western Media™.
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2020-06-04 at 4:27 AM UTC
Originally posted by MexicanMasterRace Because it's not. The entire argument relies on the idea that German documents were falsified. I'm sure you watched some good documentary that had an explanation for it though, while simultaneously ignoring any information that proposes opposing information.
There are no documents that explicitly talk about the mass execution of jedis. Plenty talk about 'the jedi problem' in the context of jedi political power and their detainment, but I defy you to actually find a document that discusses large-scale executions.
In short, where are the bodies? The current story is that they were all incinerated, and those that remained were later dug up and incinerated to 'destroy evidence'. 70 years ago. In the middle of a war, when Italy today can't effectively incinerate the overflow of Corona deaths.
They were forced-labour camps (which aren't necessarily better) where people died due to brutal conditions and poor sanitation, later worsened by allied attacks on supply lines.
A lot of people died, but it was nowhere near 6 million and it wasn't a matter of state-backed 'extermination'. -
2020-06-04 at 4:48 AM UTCeh im not reading that
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2020-06-04 at 4:49 AM UTCya i mnot reaidnakljfd thatk ailjedifla
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2020-06-04 at 5:07 AM UTCIch glaub an den Endsieg.
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2020-06-04 at 7:11 AM UTC
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2020-06-04 at 7:50 AM UTCHow can Trumpstein Orangeberg be a notsee when he's the king of israel?
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2020-06-04 at 7:54 AM UTCBy liberal standards, the Allied powers who defeated the Nazis in WWII were all Nazis.
