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82% of the corona bailout money will go directly to the wealthy elite.

  1. #41
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson All money ultimately comes from the sale of goods or services when you follow it back to the source.

    not true in these modern days. monies these days come from the issuance of debts.

    Income tax is collected from workers for example who get paid by employers who are selling goods or services. Taxes all ultimately lead back to a product or service….that money is fundamentally generated by trade both domestic and international. You pay tax on your property…how did you get that property? you bought it with money you earned…how did you earn it?..etc etc etc.

    yes, yes. but its the proportion of income:taxes that matters. earn 100 and paying 1 dollar of taxes isnt the same thing as earning 100 and paying 50 dollar of taxes.

    and no, properties are all bought with DEBTS. mortgages. unless your the 1%ter.

    Doesn't matter if the product is made by US citizens or Indians…the citizens are getting their money from somewhere yes?…another job OR gov handout…they are not printing it themselves and they are not coming up with a product or service need..they are filling a labor need to get their money (who as you noted could go overseas in many cases if they didn't want to do it).

    it does from the perspective of national income. more jobs for imported laborers, legal or illegal means less labor opportunity for citizens. and more wages going into non citizens means more wages are leaving for elsewhere on payday.

    Again Queen bee, and worker bees…the worker bees are WORTHLESS without the queen. Same for the unwashed masses…without people creating jobs/products/services and managing that need, they would be begging on the streets, as many are.

    …it's all very simple Vincent.

    yea, except now your queen bee is hiring moths because moths give her more honey and these moths arent going to feed her baby bees because moth are moth and they have their own family to feed.

    you see where this is going ?
  2. #42
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson The industrial revolution is a great example of this…demonstrated in this chart…for 2700+ years (on the chart) things were relatively the same..then BAM.


    fossil, fuel.
  3. #43
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny fossil, fuel.

    Dinosaurs and trees then.

    You can thank a brontosaurus for your latest Iphone's existence.
  4. #44
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Dinosaurs and trees then.

    You can thank a brontosaurus for your latest Iphone's existence.

    and heavenly rocks that slammed unto this earth.
  5. #45
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny and heavenly rocks that slammed unto this earth.

    Ancient super nova's that created the elements and seeded the universe with them which lead to those rocks existing.
  6. #46
    -SpectraL coward [the spuriously bluish-lilac bushman]
    A single gigantic explosion and release of energy and matter.
  7. #47
    Cathay Coof African Astronaut [the ariled affirmatory basinet]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny fossil, fuel.

    white, people
  8. #48
    Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Dark Matter [my scoffingly uncritical tinning]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Could be anyone of a million different ways, again not really relevant to the issue of who generates wealth.

    ..two different things.

    If I have a million in the bank from selling "Gadget A" that I designed/produced/marketed/sold Then that is wealth I generated…owing $1000 on my car isn't relevant to that wealth generation


    Common scrubs don't generate wealth…the upper echelons do.

    What if what you make is something that doesn't contribute to society. What if you sell weapons to two different fighting governments, and to pay you they both go into debt?
  9. #49
    Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country What if what you make is something that doesn't contribute to society. What if you sell weapons to two different fighting governments, and to pay you they both go into debt?

    If you made something that didnt contribute to society (financially) then you'd be one of the scrubs. Wariat's art is a good example of that.
  10. #50
    Cathay Coof African Astronaut [the ariled affirmatory basinet]
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson If you made something that didnt contribute to society (financially) then you'd be one of the scrubs. Wariat's art is a good example of that.

    So your worldview rests on the presumption that the only way to get rich is by contributing positively to society.
  11. #51
    Originally posted by Cathay Coof white, people

    jéws discivered coals and petroleums.

    and how to use them. before that all white people did was be capt' ahab and hunt whales for their waxs and sperms.
  12. #52
    Originally posted by Cathay Coof white, people

    jéws discivered coals and petroleums.

    and how to use them. before that all white people did was be capt' ahab and hunt whales for their waxs and sperms.

    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson If you made something that didnt contribute to society (financially) then you'd be one of the scrubs. Wariat's art is a good example of that.

    lol, define society, which percentage of it ?

    because bankers and wallstreet with their predatory lendings and scheming with complex derivatives and other financial products only seem to benefit their kind.
  13. #53
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny jéws discivered coals and petroleums.

    and how to use them. before that all white people did was be capt' ahab and hunt whales for their waxs and sperms.



    lol, define society, which percentage of it ?

    Not relevant.

    because bankers and wallstreet with their predatory lendings and scheming with complex derivatives and other financial products only seem to benefit their kind.

    Predatory lending...lolol

    Personal responsibility..get some, no one is forced to take out a loan. They sign, they owe. (again not relevant).
  14. #54
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Predatory lending…lolol

    Personal responsibility..get some, no one is forced to take out a loan. They sign, they owe. (again not relevant).

    then why is credit score a thing in the US ?
  15. #55
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny then why is credit score a thing in the US ?

    Again non sequitur.


    But it's a good indicator of the personal responsibility thing.
  16. #56
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Again non sequitur.


    But it's a good indicator of the personal responsibility thing.

    oui sequitur.

    its designed to subliminally condition americans into believing credit-worthiness is a thing to strive for because credit is good, more than just good, its to instill in americans credit as a way of life.

    except now in a few weeks theres gonne be a massive massive credit prolapse.

    feceses and bloods and seminal fluids are going to be everywhere.

    every, fucking, where.
  17. #57
    Wariat Marine/Preteen Biologist
    Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Again non sequitur.


    But it's a good indicator of the personal responsibility thing.

    who tives a fuck why dont your leaderw or politicians or corporwte heads have personal responsibility thas the question? look at the bankrupcies of trump.
  18. #58
    Netflxchillr African Astronaut
    i cannot argue such facts.

    Especially, when the small business economics stimulus package included the House Democraps demanding/wanting funding for:

    75 million for NPR/PBS, 25 mil for the JFK center, 150 mil to arts/humanities, and millions of dollars going to the nation's elite collages that already receive government endowments.

    yep..
    $$$ going to many "elites" instead of Small businesses, folks... indeed.
    The following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
  19. #59
    Originally posted by Netflxchillr i cannot argue such facts.

    Especially, when the small business economics stimulus package included the House Democraps demanding/wanting funding for:

    75 million for NPR/PBS, 25 mil for the JFK center, 150 mil to arts/humanities, and millions of dollars going to the nation's elite collages that already receive government endowments.

    yep..
    $$$ going to many "elites" instead of Small businesses, folks… indeed.

    were you born today ?
  20. #60
    Netflxchillr African Astronaut
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny were you born today ?

    of course...
    now, what you have to say? enlighten us/me with, all, your abundant wisdom.
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