Originally posted by Technologist
What are you talking about, I read it, but you cherry picked it. See post above the one I just quoted. You should read all of itđ
Iâll say one last thing then Iâll stop arguing about it, because this is pointless.
You know I hate trump as much as the next guy but your finding fault in every single insignificant turn of phrase is why the other side dismisses you even when you actually have a valid argument. They automatically think itâs just more hysteria.
Read the full quote from trump in context. How can he call the virus itself a hoax, then in the next breath talk about how great his administrationâs response to the virus has been. The word âhoaxâ is just another buzz word heâs latched onto to discredit any opposition, itâs pure political rhetoric, he never meant to imply that the virus didnât exist
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All Iâm saying is you said he didnât call it a hoax, when he obviously did. Nothing more to it. He realized how stupid he sounded and backpedaled the next day.
Originally posted by Technologist
his dumb followers believe it.
Was it irresponsible language? Yes. But I disagree with your characterization of his use of the term.
For all the kids watching at home, here is the full trump quote in context:
Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that right? Coronavirus, theyâre politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, âHowâs President Trump doing?â They go, âOh, not good, not good.â They have no clue. They donât have any clue. They canât even count their votes in Iowa. They canât even count. No, they canât. They canât count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, âMr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.â That didnât work out too well. They couldnât do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. Theyâd been doing it since you got in. Itâs all turning. They lost. Itâs all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But we did something thatâs been pretty amazing. We have 15 people in this massive country and because of the fact that we went early. We went early, we could have had a lot more than that.
To anybody with proper athletic abilities skills itâs obvious heâs referring to the negative politicization of the coronavirus as the ânew hoaxâ perpetrated to make him look bad. I donât see how anybody can read that and think he was calling the virus itself a hoax
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Weâll have to agree to disagree. He said it plain and simple, and his dumb followers believe it.
Just like that elderly couple who took that chloroquine from their fish cleaning products. The wife said she heard it from trump. Trumpâs ignorance when it comes to people taking his words as truth, is astounding. He doesnât realize the magnitude of his rhetoric. Leave the medical discussions to the experts.
Originally posted by Technologist
Trumpâs ignorance when it comes to people taking his words as truth. He doesnât realize the magnitude of his rhetoric.
This we can agree on
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Originally posted by Technologist
Yeah he tried to keep it from us, or play it down because he didnât want the economy to tank, well itâs fucking tanking. Now he wonât help the states, theyâre on their own. States are bidding against each other and the feds for ventilators. He is causing Americans to fight against each other for life saving equipment instead of making a national registry of all this equipment/ventilators. So much for us coming together to battle this, weâre on our own. https://time.com/5806653/jay-inslee-washington-state-coronavirus/?amp=true
2months ago amid 1st reports of virus "leaking" out of CHINA.
On Jan 30- as we started consulting with our Military Commanders
When did TRUMP implement our 1st Travel Restrictions? from CHINA? Wasn't the Chinese crying about TRUMP restrictions in Feb?
and TRUMP addresses the nation when? late Feb early March??
In early March we begin preventative precautions w/in US to subdue spread of the virus by closing restaurants, bars, theaters, & other social areas, as well as, restricting travel from the Mexican & Canadian borders.
We are, now, on complete lockdown. So, with all things considered-- if the 1st case was exposed on Dec 31st according to the Chinese officials, themselves.... , just how much of a quicker response were some of you'all expecting???
so, please explain... how "anybody" would/could have moved faster on this chit! đ€·đ»ââïžđ„Ž
ffs...
and not only that, he has since approved 8.3TR for/into research/vaccines of the virus and giving stimulus $$$ to us, halted student loans and penalties, and a tax extension to July.
just when will the mainstream American populous going to fuq'n be happy???? and QUIT bitching??
i mean, truly, if you have a quicker time-line between December to the present, to produce.... i would/do want to see it đđ» because the above was the best "i" could find into the matter using both liberal/conservative information.
We found out about this in late December, early January. His own intelligence agencies warned him in January and February, but he continued to downplay it till about 2 weeks ago, still is. Wants to open the country, or should I say counties with low numbers. Does he think counties have a biodome around them. This is just the beginning, it is going to get much, much worse.
Why does the supposed richest country in the world have the highest trajectory rate? No I donât accept this. 2 months is a long time to start preparing millions of tests and distributing them. 2 months is a long time to get medical supplies together. 2 months is a long time to be able to get a ventilator registry together. There are 10s of thousands of ventilators in many states just sitting there. If we had a registry, these could be moved around the country as the need arises and slows in other areas. Do you think itâs right that states are having to compete with each other and the feds to attain ventilators?
Our medical community is dropping like flies. This could have been avoided by ramping up PPE production 2 months ago.
And if anyone thinks we wonât end up like Italy where doctors have to decide who lives it dies because of the lack of ventilators, youâre sadly mistaken. Itâs gonna get downright nasty.
if there isnt an outbreak there wouldnt be a lockdown.
if theres theres no lockdown, there'll be no bailouts and stimulus packages.
but the economy is going to crash and prolapse anyway with or without the corona outbreak due to the way things were run for the past decade.
therefore it is paramount that an outbreak occurs for without which, all the faults and the blames for the oncoming economic prolapse will be rested solely upon the shoulders of mega coporations, banks and wall street.
which as we have seen back in 2008, was morally and ethically almost impossible to be given bailouts by the governmemt.
this outbreak provided just the right kind of excuses to save these companies on "taxpayer" dime.
Originally posted by Technologist
Yes, the timeline could have been much quicker.
We found out about this in late December, early January. His own intelligence agencies warned him in January and February, but he continued to downplay it till about 2 weeks ago, still is. Wants to open the country, or should I say counties with low numbers. Does he think counties have a biodome around them. This is just the beginning, it is going to get much, much worse.
Why does the supposed richest country in the world have the highest trajectory rate? No I donât accept this. 2 months is a long time to start preparing millions of tests and distributing them. 2 months is a long time to get medical supplies together. 2 months is a long time to be able to get a ventilator registry together. There are 10s of thousands of ventilators in many states just sitting there. If we had a registry, these could be moved around the country as the need arises and slows in other areas. Do you think itâs right that states are having to compete with each other and the feds to attain ventilators?
Our medical community is dropping like flies. This could have been avoided by ramping up PPE production 2 months ago.
No I do not find this acceptable at all.
This is sad.
i say, be rational & stop thinking the world is run like an after-school special or a quick television episode of NIS. Facts & evidence takes time to process... remember, we DO have to deal with other countries with as much diplomacy & facts... & not our mf'n "FEELINGS!" we can only go by information other countries provide- not deal with them with on 'emotion' or are you not aware of such???
"i feel he lied" "i feel they knew sooner!!" "i feel.... blah, blah, blah!!"
as i requested, if you can-- produce a more FACTUAL time-line of events.... i would like to SEE it!! show it as best you can, as i have tried to do... and not a bunch of your personal "feelings" about the chain of events.đ·
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny
if trump acted fast there wouldnt be an outbreak.
if there isnt an outbreak there wouldnt be a lockdown.
if theres theres no lockdown, there'll be no bailouts and stimulus packages.
but the economy is going to crash and prolapse anyway with or without the corona outbreak due to the way things were run for the past decade.
therefore it is paramount that an outbreak occurs for without which, all the faults and the blames for the oncoming economic prolapse will be rested solely upon the shoulders of mega coporations, banks and wall street.
which as we have seen back in 2008, was morally and ethically almost impossible to be given bailouts by the governmemt.
this outbreak provided just the right kind of excuses to save these companies on "taxpayer" dime.
Village idiot...
please, hush.
*semi factual briefings of our adult discussions- will be given to you later tonight on mainstream media.đđđ»
I just explained to you when we found out and when trumps intelligence agencies started warning him. Shit should have ramped up right then.
Emotions and feelings? Where in my post did I say âI feelâ? No no sis, just the truth.
Just gonna sit back and watch this play out, itâs gonna be disastrous.
Of course everyone could point a finger and play the blame game. I donât blame trump for it being here. I blame him for being inept and not trusting science, not feelings, but science.
you did not, Tech. you provided me a whole tirade of your "feelings" but i need to see your factual proof, behind them.
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heck, if anybody can... please do.đđ» As i said, the info i had provided is what my research could access. I am not opposed to my facts being dispelled. đđ»
