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2020-03-01 at 2:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by vice admiral slippery slapper thats funny. current production vehicles are already using the pinnacle of bearing technology using assorted coatings and ultra-exotic metal alloys to feed normal IC engines. now they need even more life/reliability out of them to support this start/stop nonsense, yet the technology doesnt exist.
ive been googling this and after reading through about ten sites im even more convinced start/stop technology is a rip roaring rump raping jamboree. i enjoyed reading about the multitude of s/s victims describing how their batteries died in cold weather due to the inadequate charging of their vehicle electrical systems. i most enjoyed reading about the overpriced BMW owners whos batteries dont have enough juice to start their junk in them middle of traffic in zero-degree temperatures.
this is hilarious. the complications and difficulties associated with something so ridiculously trivial and utterly insignificant in actual results…and the retards think this was a good idea.
this is why selective eugenics and mass-sterilization needs to become a societal norm again.
The radical leftist socialists give them HUGE chunks of taxpayer cash to design them that way. Has nothing to do with practicality, just greed and political power. -
2020-03-01 at 3:05 AM UTC
Originally posted by section 8 housing hero every manufacturer-provided service manual that ive used is the exact one that the manufacturer provides to their own service personnel. and, theyre on CDs. and grossly overpriced. the last one i bought was for one vehicle but their requirement was to buy the entire series at the tune of $600.
try using a real service manual and not the ones you pick up at walmart or the auto parts store.
i only use the ones that the manufacture maintains that i have to log onto with my registered technician ID. and alldata sometimes if it's a make i'm less familiar with, because some of my tickets are from random cars not associated with the dealership.
also, you're getting ripped off if you believe that the manufacturer gives technicians 'service manuals' on cd's. that's not how it works. you log onto the manufacturers technician website. it's slow and gay and most of the photos look like they were taken with a twenty year old nokia phone. i can't believe you spent all that money. you could have just asked someone like me to print something off of alldata for you. the dealership pays for my subscription. and it'd be a lot more up to date than whatever haynes you paid for or whatever.
besides, up to date access to TSB's are going to be the most important resource for you. and you have to have technician credentials to access those. -
2020-03-01 at 3:29 AM UTC
Originally posted by section 8 housing hero i didnt think i needed to mention that my ex worked at a dealership in a position that gave me access…and that at the time there was no internet site…and that CDs were the same ones the dealership techs used…and i paid the exact same amount it would have cost the dealership to purchase…and ive found that any TSB i ever needed for any vehicle ive ever needed it for is online, openly available, regardless of the manufacturers restrictions. one of my vehicles is a ford superduty and considering the popularity of that vehicle its no surprise anyone and everyone has them.
ducati, on the other hand, is a riproaring shitshow and im getting thoroughly disgusted with how their policies and pricing applies to their bikes and their maintenance. and their shit-tier manufacturing/design at how often they want to do recalls for retard-tier fuckups. (their earlier bikes would literally catch fire)
yes you're a retard and your ex left you for a fatter dong -
2020-03-01 at 3:32 AM UTCToday I drove a hybrid box truck with this non-idle feature.
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2020-03-01 at 6:20 AM UTCAlso funny as shit are Tesla owners in the middle of winter running without heat in order to push their mileage.
All this green tech is bullshit. Design features that would let your car run to a million miles without requiring major maintenance would put all these other green initiatives to shame. -
2020-03-01 at 9:53 AM UTC
Originally posted by vice admiral slippery slapper this is why retards need to be involuntarily contained within asylums and eugenics needs to become vogue…yet another example of the mentally deficient running amok. like a dog getting hold of a chewy slipper to gnaw on and not letting go until its teeth are ground down into nothing-nubs. this is a poorly thought out and even more poorly engaged attempt by someone who came up with a stupid idea that should have been shot down but unfortunately another retard saw how chewy and yummy it was and decided to gnaw on it for good measure.
1- to save about 25-cents worth of gas through the life of the starter the vehicle owner is going to have to purchase multiple new starters throughout the life of the vehicle. go call the dealership and ask how much it will be to replace the starter
2- to save three or four ounces of gasoline over the life of the starter there will be several pounds of assorted metals and plastics that cant be readily 'recycled' when the starter fails. modern starters are not wound the same way as older ones that make rebuilding them as cost effective.
3- this isnt even getting into the assorted ancillary issues that will present themselves during the excessive stresses on other systems caused by the exponential increase in duty requirements of the starter. one example is the electrical system over all. smaller gauge wiring in modern vehicles powering the starter is grossly inadequate to provide its actual power needs…which will result is various voltage drops causing issues with the complex, sensitive, and wholly inadequately insulated electronics. god forbid the voltage drop fries an external electronic device attached to the in-vehicle electrical system. (phone being charged…assorted cameras…OBDII devices (monitors…programmers)…GPS monitors of assorted types…etc etc, ad nauseum)
4- this is boring now. in summary…bad idea thought up by retards.
i've serviced hundreds of starters. usually all thats wrong with themmwhen they fucked up are bearings and brushes, sometimes its the solenoids but mostly just the bearing and their carbon brushes, which are easy to replace. -
2020-03-01 at 9:59 AM UTC
Originally posted by vice admiral slippery slapper and oil…and coolant…
an engine running is circulating oil and coolant. shutting the engine off stops the oil and coolant circulating which has the effect of:
- in a hot engine the core temperature will spike causing damage to various components, the most sensitive being non-metallic seals. stop-and-go traffic is the worst (after hill climbing) way to cause an engine to overheat.
an engime isnt a neclear reactor, the momemt you shut it down is the moment combustions (not nuclear reactions) stop inside them and therefore, is the moment they cool down.- in a stopped engine the lubricating oil has fallen back into the oil pan…or at the very least started dribbling back down towards the oil pan and ceased lubricating (and cooling) the upper parts of the engine. over heated valves really enjoy being asked to function for the seconds it takes between the time combustion stresses starts and the oil pump decides to start feeding them lube. the oil pressure sensor doesnt say jack or shit about what kind of oil circulation the valves are getting.
this isnt 1917. all modern oils are designed to leave behind a thin flim of oil behind on the metals when they settle. and a couple of minutes wont be long enough for all of them to drip back down i to the crankcase.
just pull out yoir little dipstick amd notice how long does it takes for oils on it to drip completely off and leaving it dry.
hours if not days. -
2020-03-01 at 10:01 AM UTC
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2020-03-01 at 10:11 AM UTC
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2020-03-01 at 12:19 PM UTC
Originally posted by jesus enriquez i dont buy anything made in chinkland if i can buy it from somewhere else.
i just dropped $800 on a vise that says 'made in USA' so i could avoid shit-tier chinee junk.
https://www.wiltontools.com/us/en/p/machinist-4-jaw-round-channel-vise-with-stationary-base/28836
News Flash- America makes shitty things, also. -
2020-03-01 at 2:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by jesus enriquez literally every single thing you said in that post is patently false, wrong, and incorrect.
youre an idiot, go back to google, and stfu.
and…funny how you compare an inanimate component (dipstick) under zero stresses to something like the stressed crankshaft bearings that are under so much stresses theyre made out of exotic metals because even the epitome of modern tribological technology isnt capable of exclusively lubricating them.
you're just making stuff up and i think you have some kind of mental issues. -
2020-03-01 at 2:54 PM UTChey who wants to get in a dick smelling contest about car starters WWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL GONTS LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL INFINITY THREAD
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2020-03-01 at 3:20 PM UTC
Tribology is the science and engineering of interacting surfaces in relative motion. It includes the study and application of the principles of friction, lubrication, and wear.
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2020-03-01 at 3:29 PM UTC
Originally posted by jesus enriquez prove anything ive posted is inaccurate to the degree of being wrong.
you cant.
ive been working on IC ground vehicles longer than youve been alive and rebuilding engines from the bare block, bare head, and partially disassembled/reassembled manual trans probably longer than youve been alive. the only thing on a 'normal' automobile i cant strip and rebuild down to the most basic component is an auto transmission. other than a handful of manufacturer-specific specialty tools (and i even have a whole box of them) i have every tool needed to rebuild an engine. ive built a functioning steam engine from scrap metal and raw materials.
now stfu and get back to your corner where you belong
i actually meant to quote the guy you were replying to. -
2020-03-01 at 3:30 PM UTCdurr durrr i made a steam engine! time for you to take a nap grampa
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2020-03-01 at 3:39 PM UTCThe following users say it would be alright if the author of this post didn't die in a fire!
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2020-03-01 at 4:25 PM UTC
Originally posted by jesus enriquez the new starter was literally the size of the starter on my bike and made of plastic. after literally a week it wouldnt start. one of the problems was the plastic pinion gear (you said you know about starters so i dont have to explain what that is or what it does and why its jew-tier fucktardery to make it out of anything other than quality steel) had warped so badly it wasnt engaging the fly wheel properly.
plastic ? was your car made in the USA ?
so when the cheap shit is made in the USA broke down its not USA thats at fault, but jéws.
is this derangement ? -
2020-03-01 at 4:27 PM UTC
Originally posted by jesus enriquez i dont buy anything made in chinkland if i can buy it from somewhere else.
i just dropped $800 on a vise that says 'made in USA' so i could avoid shit-tier chinee junk.
https://www.wiltontools.com/us/en/p/machinist-4-jaw-round-channel-vise-with-stationary-base/28836
but the value of your works, are they worth more than the vice or is this another one of your midlife crises toys. -
2020-03-01 at 4:28 PM UTCjedis broke my car
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2020-03-01 at 4:30 PM UTC
Originally posted by jesus enriquez literally every single thing you said in that post is patently false, wrong, and incorrect.
youre an idiot, go back to google, and stfu.
and…funny how you compare an inanimate component (dipstick) under zero stresses to something like the stressed crankshaft bearings that are under so much stresses theyre made out of exotic metals because even the epitome of modern tribological technology isnt capable of exclusively lubricating them.
point is the oil doesnt leave the metal parts in a few minutes. and crankshafts are half submerged in oil.
maybe you can argue about cams or rocker arms not gettin enough oils on startup, but not crankshafts.
and they're dropforged and tempered, they're stressed components by default.
