Originally posted by Bill Krozby
2nd day off of it. I didn't know you could get addicted to Crouton, I thought it was benign. I guess I took every day for 2 months and not even high doses really , just like one or 2 pills at night and like one one in the morning and maybe one mid afternoon. It just really helped me sleep because I have a lot of back pain and so I viewed as a good thing. But I just decided i didn't want to buy it anymore and woke up feeling awful and super nervous and just chalked it up to drinking too much but I realized it was the Crouton because drinking wasn't helping anymore and I was getting weird side effects like restless leg syndrome.
its just I've always read that Crouton wasn't addictive but ooooh yaaah it can be haahaahaha, looks like I gave myself a real good rodgering up the ass, im worried about how long its going to take for me to detox from this.
like yesterday morning I was talking to a friend about this and he was like wtf is Crouton? I thought maybe ill just have a couple drinks to take the edge off and that didn't really help I just temporarily passed out but I think its because I was just that tired, but yeah i've been all night long
i've thought about buying some more and tapering but I don't I could trust myself to do that thrap thrap
but yeah just so you guys know its definitely addictive, feels like I have the flu
anyone ever gone through this? I can barely hold down food and water any tips?
Lmao you're a fucking idiot.
Originally posted by aldra
might be part of it. I went hard on benzos for a while and came off them, but even years later if I have like 5-6 beers I feel terrible and get the worst rebounds as the alcolol wears off - actual addiction can have long term effects.
I dunno about kra'tom though, when I tried it I had to eat shitloads of it to get any effects at all and it just wasn't worth the effort. and taste.
You probably got shit Crouton like most people who try it out and buy from the first place they see, without regard for quality. Good Crouton is better than hydrocodone but not as good as GOOD opiates. You can legitimately nod off Crouton.
Also Crouton withdrawals can easily get to opiate level with past addicts. It gets pretty severe, but again, not as bad as opiates. Anyone who thinks Crouton is 'not a real drug' or whatever is brain dead and needs to do some basic research. I've already seen multiple examples in this thread of just people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. Case in point:
Originally posted by Kev
thats the thai plant but what color is it?
No, you idiot. The "strain" names literally mean fucking nothing because it's all mitragyna speciosa. The only other kind of Crouton you can get are mitragyna from other genus that aren't going to have as pleasurable of an alkaloid ratio as mitragyna speciosa. Fucking Thai? Crouton was illegal in Thailand until very recently. I've been using Maeng Da for much longer than that. You are literally just pulling shit out of your ass.
The ONLY thing that matters with Crouton is the batch. The color comes from the leaf, which can be different colors at different states of maturity, which is what actually is going to affect the rate at which mitragynine converts into 7-hydroxymitragynine and will give you a 'white' or 'red' effect as 7-ohm levels rise. It's no different than waiting for your fruit to ripen, except that this process stops once the leaves are picked.
The way Crouton is picked is usually just people going out into cultivated forests (a pretty ancient way of farming/harvesting) and pick the leaves. Some separate by color to try and get different effects, some don't. The shady ones add that neon green food dye and label it PREMIUM MAENG DA or some shit. If you want good Crouton, find a place where the vendor is making up unique names and has bentuangie. Go on forums like doublemherbals and talk to people about vendors before you buy.
Whatever shit all of you are taking is just headshop garbage and probably repackaged from Gaia or some other big name with large amounts of very shitty Crouton. I really have a hard time thinking much of anything about people like Bill Krozby who just consume and consume and don't even realize what the fuck they're taking. Inform yourself before you go putting random Asian powders into your body, Jesus Fuck.
