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  1. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    Originally posted by vindicktive vinny let me remind you that johnson&johnson baby powders are/were FDA approved.

    for multiple generations.



    Originally posted by -SpectraL Not true at all. The FDA regularly and knowingly approves substances containing known toxins and poisons, and also rely on the profiteering terrorists themselves to police their own acts of terror and conduct their own so-called "studies". The FDA does not represent safety, neither does it represent the people who sign their paychecks. They serve the crony capitalists and their bottom line. That's it. That's all.

    I don't think you guys are understanding my point at all, because what you're saying has no bearing on it whatsoever.

    My argument is not that the FDA is perfect system.

    My argument is not that the FDA is immune to corruption.

    My argument is not that the FDA has never been wrong.

    My argument is not that the FDA hasn't ever revoked their approval of drugs.



    My point is simply that, if you're going to put drugs or supplements into your body, you're better off at least having a bare-bones standards enforced by an imperfect government agency regulate it than allowing corporations to run wild selling whatever they want. In the overwhelming majority cases, the FDA has prevented many of the atrocities that you saw in the early 1900s when nothing was regulated at all. Just a friendly reminder that more soldiers died in the Spanish American war from poisoned meat rations than enemy fire, cocaine was prescribed as medicine, and even soda had cocaine in it. The reason this kind of hogwash came to a stop is because Roosevelt started the FDA.


    I know you guys are clearly hostile to the government, but I sincerely fucking doubt that when you get prescribed medicine from a doctor, you go out and find a non-FDA approved alternative because you think the government is out to get you or the FDA is a bunch of "terrorists."

    To my original point within this thread, I'm not relying on non-FDA approved supplements to get 200 grams of protein a day even if simply due to the fact that people die from this kind of stuff all the time.
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  2. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    Originally posted by Grylls how does one become a paedophile? are they born that way?

    Psychologists and neuroscientists have debated this for a while. There's no unified theory of identity that's universally accepted but, like anything in psychology, people are an amalgam of their sociological, political, biological, psychosexual, genetic, and other extraneous influence -- perhaps their greatest influence being that of their own choice.


    The most recent research I saw seems to indicate that people know they're sexually attracted to children during puberty, which would lead one to believe it's a sexual preference like any other one. The main difference between pedophilia and a preference like heterosexuality is that the law dictates children can't consent to sexual activity, to therein lies an immediate problem.

    This problem is further complicated with by the rich history of inconsistent laws in the Western world governing age of consent.
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  3. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    Originally posted by -mal- Fake news. It was the other way around. I denied him and he raped me.

    From what you said, he communicated that he wanted to fuck you, you blew him off for a while, and then out of the blue you called him and asked if you could chill at his apartment in the middle of the night. I don't recall if you stayed over night, but supposedly he "raped" you during that evening when you two were hanging out, and I recall you saying you didn't go the police about it until way later.

    I'm not saying that anybody deserves to be raped or that someone putting themselves in an unsafe situation qualifies them and deserving of being a victim of a crime, but I also think you live in a culture where even accusing someone of this crime is enough to completely destroy their life and it seems like you have very little evidence to forward that this is in fact what happened.

    Moreover, the fact that you would join a dying web community he was part of after all of this to "spite" him and "ruin his reputation" here (as if he even really had one) along with the ways I've seen you throw histrionic fits in voice chat really lead me to believe that you're the kind of person to make this shit up just to get someone in trouble.

    I sincerely don't wish you any ill will and hope you can move on from whatever happened between you an Bill KrozbyDog, but I think anyone seriously looking at this situation from the outside in as objectively as possible wouldn't say your behavior is exactly stable and it honestly makes me question your version of events. Bill Krozby is no saint, but you've got to realize your behavior is speaking volumes about your character, which doesn't reflect well about a version of events you basically have no evidence of.

    I also just really think part of moving on means moving on from this community in your case. It's not that I'm in a position to tell you what to do, I just hope you get better.
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  4. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    Originally posted by GGG So to answer the title of the thread: There is no good reason why I should refer to somebody by their preferred pronoun?

    Also, is it okay for me to refer to you as a biological male, or do you contest to this fact? What if I want to use a pronoun that is in reference your biological sex rather than your 'gender sex'? Or should I, in the same sentence, say something like "HTS is a biological male and she eats corned beef daily." Gender may be a social construct, but sex is not. Where's the line?

    I won't speak for HTS, but I guess my thought on the issue comes down largely to what you mean by "refer to transgender people."

    Do you mean online? Do you mean in person? Are they transgender people you know personally or are they strangers?


    I'm not attempting to be overly academic here, it's just that the question of how you approach any verbiage is simply going to be highly contingent on the situation you're in and the population you're speaking to -- even if you're just making statements of fact. For example, citing that African Americans make up a disproportionate amount of the crime rate or have way higher rates of illiteracy than their Caucasian counterparts is factual, but that doesn't mean you'd always feel comfortable make that point in discussion to a stranger, at the office, or in a classroom. Similarly, if you have someone close to you that is black and you're speaking in private, you may feel comfortable making the same point.

    Moreover, even if being transgender is an dysphoria, it doesn't really cost you anything to entertain that delusion with a stranger simply out of respect for their preference. Moreover, if you maintain a working relationship with somebody and you don't want to complicate it by invoking these greater political ramifications of using their identity as a platform for you to make some kind of speech, you might refer to them as this pronoun just to make your job easier.
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  5. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    This thread really went downhill before I got a chance to respond to it due to Lanny's built in "you can't post anymore until we deem you cool enough" feature. At any rate, nobody asked me, but since this is an open forum I'll throw in my two cents.

    I managed to make this far in life without reading Peterson, but I finally caved in earlier this year because people have been incessantly talking about him. I would say that I think he's a very gifted undergraduate lecturer and any bachelor's psychology program would be very fortunate to have such an involved and passionate instructor. Moreover, I think he does leverage good criticisms of socialism (albeit perhaps a bit shallow at time). However, I will say that it's pretty obvious that he doesn't really reach people who seriously study philosophy or psychology outside of this immediate limited audience. While he speaks claims with a certain amount passion, confidence, and conviction, he never really defends any of their prerequisite assumptions very well. For example, he might make grandiose claims about the nature of mankind and appeal to archetypes when pressed, but I haven't really seen any thorough work on his behalf proving that either 1) there is a cause and effect relationship between archetypes and "human nature" or 2) that, if this relationship existed, it's linear instead of reciprocal. Similarly, when he makes claims that the Jesus mythos is foundational to the formation of Western culture, he doesn't really address potential extraneous variables that influenced it or even influenced early Christianity (which I assume anyone would anticipate when making such large-scale claims).

    The short version is that you can be a moderately successful academic and not necessarily be a very good critical thinker. I also can't help but think that more powerful institutions who would profit from someone packaging conservative morality with secular arguments are endorsing him and promoting his career a lot more forcefully than he potentially would have succeeded on the merits of his ideas alone.
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  6. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    Originally posted by -SpectraL At the time Henderson and the others got popped, there wasn't even any fraudulent coupons on Zoklet. I removed them all. The only thing there was links to some counterfeit coupon resources. The feds still moved in and threatened zok with subpoena (so he willingly cooperated without a warrant), and they still used those links as evidence of coupon forgery.

    Not surprising. Zok and Jeff Hunter were in fact roommates, but I don't think Zok really believed in the original message as much as Jeff did. Honestly, Jeff stopped believing in the message as well because he could see the changing times resulted in the site outgrowing its purpose. I remember hot topics in the early 2000s were to the tune of "Do you have a anti-federalist or federalist interpretation of the constitution (and why)?" Posts by the mid to late 2000s were more like "Do you wipe your ass standing up or sitting down?"

    The place went downhill pretty fast, and there was time one could justify the occasional strain of necessary law enforcement attention due to the fact that it was a natural consequence of having a free forum of information where no ideas were censored. Unfortunately, the internet became pretty mainstream and technology simply became so accessible that it largely invalidated Jeff's original mission. Add this to the growing culture of fear in the United States, and effectively it reached a point where the site became nothing more than a liability. It really was in everyone's best interest to just walk away. Everything changed so quickly in that decade that a site like Totse wouldn't have served as anything other than a relic of an earlier time.

    Afterwards, a few die hard fans who either had no life outside of it (Bill Krozby) or people who hardcore believed the message but didn't want to see it die (-Spectral). The truth is it's over, and a site like this is a funny community to shit post because you can almost certainly say whatever you want. I find it honestly pretty doubtful that taxpayer money is being spent on police monitoring this site even semi-regularly just by virtue of the fact that, even if the people here were actually malicious, almost all of us are too severely retarded to accomplish anything.
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  7. yabbadabbadindunuthin oplus is dead, long live oplus [my sedative well-conducted austrocedrus]
    I know it's fun to bust -Spectral's balls sometimes, but he's actually telling the truth. The main reason Zoklet got attention from LE was because of the coupon thing. People were arrested. There were way more arrests from &Totse, but that's because &T was part of a period in time where people actually did things other than shitpost in space about Zok having AIDs or whatever. Also, he was indeed a mod of Bad Ideas, and I remember spectral being a relatively good mod because he complimented the spirit of the forum with an extremely Laissez-faire approach.


    On a slightly related note, I never did figure out what that guy did with his piss balloons. . .
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