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2019-08-01 at 2:50 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
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2019-08-01 at 2:45 PM UTC in all is mind
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2019-08-01 at 2:44 PM UTC in all is mind
Originally posted by Obbe This. And how can one piece even "fail" in this sense? The machine is running, everything is affecting everything else but with no inherent purpose or goal, so how do you define failure or success?
How do you define failure or success for anything? It doesn't depend on anyone knowing the reasons why one is defined one way and not the other.
The cuckoo chick tries to knock competing eggs out of the nest and steals food from the other chicks so they starve, in order to survive.
None of the organisms on the system really have any idea what's going on (to the best of our knowledge), the chick is pretty much acting on straight instinct, it doesn't know that the bird above it isn't it's real mother or the other eggs are competitors. But they don't need to, for the cuckoo's gambit to be successful for the reasons that it is.Everything is doing exactly what it does. If something does fall apart that is still a part of the system operating the way it operates.
How do you know success conditions aren't built into the system by necessity? -
2019-08-01 at 2:31 PM UTC in Stupidest postersThere are working class people who aren't dumb as fuck
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2019-08-01 at 2:28 PM UTC in all is mind
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson But not the whole machine or the pieces that came before it. The OP clearly stated "but only a few people realize they are not only capable of controlling everything, but obligated to. "
As firecrotch eloquently stated, a failure of one piece doesn't necessarily mean loss of control or operation of the whole machine.
If a machine fails to perform partially, that means the machine as a whole is not operating well, even though most of its pieces are.
If my car's front right wheel decides to fuck off while I'm going 80 mph, I will spin out and die due to a factor that was dependent on the wheel system.
If that wheel system had been serviced, it might not have happened. Mill's Method Of Differences tells us simply that that means the wheel system is responsible for the crash, meaning the behaviour that proximally lead to the crash.
I (as the ostensible controller) am constrained exactly as much in controlling the car by the behaviour of the wheel system, as that wheel system is constrained by the effects of me... If not more.
The time I'm not is when the rest of the system behaving well is a given. But without that as a given, you can't even begin control theory. -
2019-08-01 at 2:19 PM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny right now what they dont want is food, irregardless of whether its a jellybean or not.
Then what does not wanting jellybeans have to do with it?
You're telling me you don't want all food because jellybeans really suck. I'm telling you you don't have to get jellybeans and you're saying "jellybeans are food, I don't want jellybeans therefore I don't want food".
To paraphrase:
I said "there's no good reason for Brexit"
You said "the reason is cuz they don't want migrants because that includes asylum seekers like nigger Somalians draining public resources"
I said "Your migrants don't need to be asylum seekers like nigger Somalians".
Now you're arguing that asylum seekers are migrants... Which I don't even disagree with, yes asylum seekers are also migrants. What's your point? They aren't even remotely a problem, asylum seekers are basically a rounding error in immigration to the UK.
Because you are wrong about the UK and immigration. A majority of immigration to the UK is brownies from the subcontinent and it has literally nothing to do with the EU. They're still taking brownies from the subcontinent on en masse on their own.they there wouldnt be a backstop problem.
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would there. -
2019-08-01 at 1:52 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
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2019-08-01 at 1:46 PM UTC in all is mind
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Irrelevant, again a single component only aids the successful operation of something it doesn't control the operation. Control is to manipulate all the components in the manner the controller requires.
By that definition each piece has control of its subsequent pieces.
Also, since everything is made up of dumb little pieces, nothing has any control... But we know that's not a useful thing to regress to since we're trying to describe something specific with the word control. So control theory is more focused on constraints and degrees of freedom rather than absolute control. -
2019-08-01 at 1:45 PM UTC in Feral nigger throws 8 year old boy into train (Germany)
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2019-08-01 at 12:33 PM UTC in all is mind
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson One component of the machine isn't the one who controls the machine, the operator does that, not the components. If we are all singular components of the whole machine (1 consciousness) then we control nothing, we only do our individual job/requirement.
The guy turning the crank and pushing the buttons is the controller.
If all events are structured by their antecedent causes, you cannot remove the importance of the behaviour of one piece on the operation of the machine unless there are redundancies, and then you can only do it to the point where your redundancies stand.
So igboring redundancies, if you take away a part and the rest of the machine ceases to operate... How much more control can you ask for than that? -
2019-08-01 at 12:29 PM UTC in Feral nigger throws 8 year old boy into train (Germany)
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2019-08-01 at 12:25 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson The whole site and it's population is/are trolls…it's a bit redundant really…myself included of course.
Right but it's generally a distinction between someone who is always trolling and literally can't ever be taken seriously, and someone who trolls on occasion. Those people aren't "trolls" per se, although they do troll. Or at least for me, I don't insta dismiss everyone, just idiots like Speedy Parker. -
2019-08-01 at 12:14 PM UTC in We have two groups of trolls here...
Originally posted by Jiggaboo_Johnson Is anyone really offended by the term "troll"?
It's a bit like calling a white person whitey.
It's not about offending trolls or whiteys so much as dismissing them.
If someone is legit talking bad about you then it hurts but if it's just a troll who gets their kicks from being an e-hole, it's just processed as noise. It's like scrolling past Infantcock's spam.
Same way being white is not* offensive, but some people get real triggered when you dismiss their opinions with "whitey". -
2019-08-01 at 12:10 PM UTC in Feral nigger throws 8 year old boy into train (Germany)
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2019-08-01 at 12:07 PM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
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2019-08-01 at 12:06 PM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
Originally posted by vindicktive vinny irrelavant,
as all assylum seekers are migrants.
It's not irrelevant at all and you're just making a category error, like saying I am allergic to "food" if I am allergic to jellybeans. If you REALLY want to crowbar in the word migrant because it's so special to you... It's easy to say asylum seeking migrants :)no, uk opted out, the irishes opted in.
very in.
Ireland proper isn't in Britain. Bitch Ireland is still opted out. -
2019-08-01 at 7:05 AM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
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2019-08-01 at 6:58 AM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
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2019-08-01 at 6:44 AM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
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2019-08-01 at 6:42 AM UTC in Boris Johnson Prime Minister
Originally posted by Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Why do you like the EU? If you like something then Iโm skeptical
It just makes a lot of economic sense for Europe to operate as a combined market. The concept of "economies of scale" is relevant here. If you are making 10 units of X per week, you get pleb prices. If you are making 1000/wk then you might have some negotiating power to get a bulk deal etc. Europe being one big market gives many economies and efficiencies.
